Saturday, November 30, 2019

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 6 updates in 3 topics

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 30 12:47AM -0800

> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/column-what-seniors-should-know-about-trumps-medicare-executive-order
 
https://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/open-enrollment-season-for-medicare-can-be-confusing-but-worth-the-effort
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 30 12:50AM -0800

> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/column-what-seniors-should-know-about-trumps-medicare-executive-order
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw-s4Mwztyc
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 30 12:51AM -0800

> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/column-what-seniors-should-know-about-trumps-medicare-executive-order
 
(Recently posted on Youtube):
 
Tips on Finding the Right Medicare Plan for You
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Nov 30 04:59PM -0800


> > https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/column-what-seniors-should-know-about-trumps-medicare-executive-order
 
> (Recently posted on Youtube):
 
> Tips on Finding the Right Medicare Plan for You
 
Soooooo, which one did you choose?????????
lenona321@yahoo.com: Nov 30 01:45PM -0800

Well, I found it via MSN, anyway.
 
Don't think I've heard the phrase before - but I'm glad I know about it now!
 
 
https://www.rd.com/culture/four-word-phone-scam/
 
Excerpt:
 
 
...Paul Marcarelli is not on the other line. For those wondering who Paul Marcarelli is, just watch any Verizon commercial from the mid-2000s, or any modern day Sprint commercial. He became famous for his six-word catchphrase, "Can you hear me now? Good," but now a variation of that very phrase is a go-to weapon for phone scammers.
 
If you receive a call and immediately hear the phrase "Can you hear me?," hang up. The phrase is used to coax you into saying "yes," a word that, if said in your voice, is as good as gold for con artists. Scammers online are just as sneaky, so be aware of how to avoid these 10 online scams.
 
The person on the other end will be recording the call, and would then use the track of you saying "yes" to access your sensitive information. How? The three-letter word is used frequently by companies to confirm account changes, security settings, and purchases, giving the scammer extensive access to your stuff...
 
 
 
 
 
Lenona.
plcdanahy@gmail.com: Nov 29 05:58PM -0800

Thanks. Good report.
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Friday, November 29, 2019

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"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Nov 29 05:32PM -0500

<lenona321@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Number 2 is obvious, at least.
 
> https://article.smartasset.com/financial-advisor-mistakes-v8/?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=yahoo&utm_campaign=380782131&utm_content=35103747737&utm_term=MSFT_EN_US_HOMEPAGE
 
> The bottom part is interesting.
 
#1 Well yeah, hiring a financial salesperson as an advisor is not a good
idea.
 
"Follow These Steps to Get Matched With the Right Advisor for You"
Well that sucked, you answer 50 million questions about your finances and
THEN they ask for you email address. No thanks, I don't want financial
selling SPAM.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Nov 29 03:11PM -0800

On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 4:32:19 PM UTC-6, catalpa wrote:
> Well that sucked, you answer 50 million questions about your finances and
> THEN they ask for you email address. No thanks, I don't want financial
> selling SPAM.
 
You got caught in the same click bait as I did. I hate these damn articles
that people post and they're only wanting to sell you something which is
really what this article's purpose is.
Beaver_Fever@live.com: Nov 28 10:41PM -0800

On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 11:06:28 AM UTC-8, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
> nothing more than link posting fool like the rest of us don't have a clue
> how to search for B. F. deals.
 
> Good grief.
 
I made a few hundred bucks on a BF price disparity I found so I am happy.
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 28 08:40PM -0800

Do you have a favorite?:
 
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&ei=v6DgXf_gA7TF5OUPqOGemAU&q=instant+soup+packets&oq=instant+soup+packets&gs_l=img.3..0l2j0i5i30l2j0i8i30.1668.6059..9144...1.0..0.331.5783.2-19j2......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i131j0i10.6nXSaQl7pL8&ved=0ahUKEwi_vK3mzI7mAhW0IrkGHaiwB1MQ4dUDCAY&uact=5
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Thursday, November 28, 2019

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Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 21 06:54AM -0800

On 11/20/2019 10:04 PM, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-6, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
>> https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/471344-poll-majority-of-voters-say-they-would-pay-more-taxes-for-universal-health
 
> And we ALL know those polls are never slanted and 100% truthful and honest.
 
How many seniors do you know who hate having medicare?
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 21 04:17PM -0800

On 11/21/2019 8:54 AM, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
 
>> How many seniors do you know who hate having medicare?
 
> None. They hate the thought of getting older and having to use any type
> of medical insurance but I've not heard one say they hate having Medicare.
 
IT turn out, when people don't have to worry about cost every time they
go to the doctor, they are happier. And healthier. and live longer and
better. And cost a lot less to keep healthy.
 
That's why the rest of the industrialized world is healthier, happier,
live longer, have lower infant mortality. And spend 1/2 as much as we do.
 
Ignore the never-ending lies about how they hate their "medicare for
all". Few of them would not immediately condemn any effort to convert to
our stupid expensive system. People in UK demonstrated immediately when
trump suggested that they should change to our system.
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Wednesday, November 27, 2019

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Monday, November 25, 2019

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 25 10:12AM -0800

> Is it overrated?
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/11/25/target-black-friday-2019-sale-apple-iphone-11-pro-max-samsung-galaxy-s10-note10-xbox-ps4-proamazon-echo-google-home-mini-tv-deals/
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 25 10:15AM -0800

> Is it overrated?
 
https://bgr.com/2019/11/25/cyber-week-2019-deals-amazon-everything-you-need-to-know/
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Nov 25 11:06AM -0800


> On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:53:47 PM UTC-7, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Is it overrated?
 
> https://bgr.com/2019/11/25/cyber-week-2019-deals-amazon-everything-you-need-to-know/
 
I'll be SOOOOOOOOOO glad when Black Friday has come and gone. You've become
nothing more than link posting fool like the rest of us don't have a clue
how to search for B. F. deals.
 
Good grief.
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 25 04:41PM -0800

> Is it overrated?
 
https://www.techradar.com/black-friday/best-2019-black-friday-deals-11-25
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Sunday, November 24, 2019

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Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 21 06:54AM -0800

On 11/20/2019 10:04 PM, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-6, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
>> https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/471344-poll-majority-of-voters-say-they-would-pay-more-taxes-for-universal-health
 
> And we ALL know those polls are never slanted and 100% truthful and honest.
 
How many seniors do you know who hate having medicare?
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 21 04:17PM -0800

On 11/21/2019 8:54 AM, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
 
>> How many seniors do you know who hate having medicare?
 
> None. They hate the thought of getting older and having to use any type
> of medical insurance but I've not heard one say they hate having Medicare.
 
IT turn out, when people don't have to worry about cost every time they
go to the doctor, they are happier. And healthier. and live longer and
better. And cost a lot less to keep healthy.
 
That's why the rest of the industrialized world is healthier, happier,
live longer, have lower infant mortality. And spend 1/2 as much as we do.
 
Ignore the never-ending lies about how they hate their "medicare for
all". Few of them would not immediately condemn any effort to convert to
our stupid expensive system. People in UK demonstrated immediately when
trump suggested that they should change to our system.
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 23 05:49PM -0800

> Is it overrated?
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/11/23/walmart-black-friday-2019-sales-iphone-11-galaxy-s10-note10-xbox-ps4-pro-nintendo-switch-tv-deals/#6828df2f3b84
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Saturday, November 23, 2019

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 22 10:21PM -0800

> Is it overrated?
 
Best Buy:
 
https://bgr.com/2019/11/22/best-buy-black-friday-deals-2019-10-best-early-sales/
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 22 10:28PM -0800

> Is it overrated?
 
Walmart:
 
https://bgr.com/2019/11/22/walmart-black-friday-deals-2019-top-10-pre-black-friday-sale/
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Friday, November 22, 2019

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Thursday, November 21, 2019

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 20 09:02PM -0800

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 7:21:09 PM UTC-7, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 6:08:34 PM UTC-5, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
> > Why can't the U.S. just use Canada as a model?
 
> Do you want to pay for healthcare for every deadbeat and welfare recipient?
 
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/471344-poll-majority-of-voters-say-they-would-pay-more-taxes-for-universal-health
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Nov 20 10:04PM -0800


> https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/471344-poll-majority-of-voters-say-they-would-pay-more-taxes-for-universal-health
 
And we ALL know those polls are never slanted and 100% truthful and honest.
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 21 06:54AM -0800

On 11/20/2019 10:04 PM, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 11:02:16 PM UTC-6, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
>> https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/471344-poll-majority-of-voters-say-they-would-pay-more-taxes-for-universal-health
 
> And we ALL know those polls are never slanted and 100% truthful and honest.
 
How many seniors do you know who hate having medicare?
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Nov 21 08:54AM -0800

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 8:55:00 AM UTC-6, Bob F wrote:
 
> >> https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/471344-poll-majority-of-voters-say-they-would-pay-more-taxes-for-universal-health
 
> > And we ALL know those polls are never slanted and 100% truthful and honest.
 
> How many seniors do you know who hate having medicare?
 
None. They hate the thought of getting older and having to use any type
of medical insurance but I've not heard one say they hate having Medicare.
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 21 04:17PM -0800

On 11/21/2019 8:54 AM, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
 
>> How many seniors do you know who hate having medicare?
 
> None. They hate the thought of getting older and having to use any type
> of medical insurance but I've not heard one say they hate having Medicare.
 
IT turn out, when people don't have to worry about cost every time they
go to the doctor, they are happier. And healthier. and live longer and
better. And cost a lot less to keep healthy.
 
That's why the rest of the industrialized world is healthier, happier,
live longer, have lower infant mortality. And spend 1/2 as much as we do.
 
Ignore the never-ending lies about how they hate their "medicare for
all". Few of them would not immediately condemn any effort to convert to
our stupid expensive system. People in UK demonstrated immediately when
trump suggested that they should change to our system.
"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Nov 18 09:19PM -0500

<ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> https://weather.com/science/environment/news/2019-11-11-cities-ban-natural-gas-to-fight-climate-change
 
And how does banning the cheapest energy available help low income people
already suffering with income equality?
 
This nonsense is the backdoor antifracking movement.
John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Nov 16 07:35AM -0800

On 11/16/2019 06:55, Bob F wrote:
 
>> Seattle is just as bad these days.  The mayor proposed the same thing
>> a couple weeks ago...
 
> Well genius, do give us your plan to solve the problem.
 
First, define the problem. Then assess how much people are willing to
sacrifice to solve the problem.
 
It is clear to me that the underlying problem is that we have expanded
the world population too much to be sustainable at this level, much less
any constantly-increasing level above current. My plan is to cut the
number of children being born so the world population will shrink to a
level that is sustainable. Restrictions on the number of children a
couple can have was tried in China, and worked to some extent, but was
deemed socially unacceptable.
 
As for the specific issue of natural gas, banning its use is NOT a
solution at all! Replacing all that gas use with electricity means
electric production will have to be significantly increased. In the
near term, until wind & solar with adequate storage is practical on that
scale, additional electric production will be via burning natural gas.
A gas furnace in the home is 95-98% efficient. Producing electricity
from natural gas is AT BEST 50% efficient. So banning home use will
actually increase consumption!
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 16 06:55AM -0800

On 11/15/2019 10:24 PM, John Weiss wrote:
>> I knew it had to be California.  The land of loony people.
 
> Seattle is just as bad these days.  The mayor proposed the same thing a
> couple weeks ago...
 
Well genius, do give us your plan to solve the problem.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Nov 16 08:40AM -0800

On 11/16/2019 06:55 AM, Bob F wrote:
 
>> Seattle is just as bad these days. The mayor proposed the same thing a
>> couple weeks ago...
 
> Well genius, do give us your plan to solve the problem.
 
Perhaps change the way the sun works. Altering the laws of physics
might also be helpful. Easiest, although less possible, would be
slapping some common sense into a lot of people.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
"You won't like me when I'm angry because I always back up my rage
with facts and documented sources." - The Credible Hulk
John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Nov 15 10:24PM -0800

On 11/15/2019 15:18, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
 
>> https://weather.com/science/environment/news/2019-11-11-cities-ban-natural-gas-to-fight-climate-change
 
> I read this garbage the other day and before I even started wasting my time
> I knew it had to be California. The land of loony people.
 
Seattle is just as bad these days. The mayor proposed the same thing a
couple weeks ago...
GLOBE CRACKER ADMIN <WEHACKYOURWIFI@GLOBE.COM>: Nov 15 11:27PM

Get globe wifi and have your connection hacked by their bullshit
modems/dns filtering. crap,crap,crap. I am getting wifi nearly for free.
I would NEVER pay Globe for internet. Try PLDT fiber MUCH better.
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 18 09:36PM -0800

On 11/18/2019 5:59 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
> And if it's the AOA are they used on other planes? Does the company
> that makes them have similar designs in other planes that could fail
> in a similar way?
 
As I said before, the corporate structure run by bean counters has
destroyed the engineering quality. Ahhh, the wonders of capitalism!!
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Nov 18 07:28PM -0700

On 11/18/2019 07:10 PM, catalpa wrote:
 
> The last thing I want is a blanket that weighs more.
 
> As weighted blankets exist, do weightless blankets exist? Or do I just crank
> up the heat so I don't need a blanket?
 
I thought a weighted blanket was something you wrapped your wife in
before you threw her in the lake.
"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Nov 18 09:10PM -0500

<ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes-finds/2019/02/09/everything-you-need-to-know-before-buying-a-weighted-blanket/#1d1edcf36b07
 
The things that exist that I would never think of.
 
The last thing I want is a blanket that weighs more.
 
As weighted blankets exist, do weightless blankets exist? Or do I just crank
up the heat so I don't need a blanket?
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Tuesday, November 19, 2019

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 9 updates in 4 topics

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 19 10:02AM -0800

> Is it overrated?
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/reviewedcom/2019/11/19/amazon-early-black-friday-5-amazing-products-their-lowest-prices/4236945002/
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 18 09:36PM -0800

On 11/18/2019 5:59 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
> And if it's the AOA are they used on other planes? Does the company
> that makes them have similar designs in other planes that could fail
> in a similar way?
 
As I said before, the corporate structure run by bean counters has
destroyed the engineering quality. Ahhh, the wonders of capitalism!!
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 19 12:16AM -0800

On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 9:37:12 PM UTC-8, Bob F wrote:
> > in a similar way?
 
> As I said before, the corporate structure run by bean counters has
> destroyed the engineering quality. Ahhh, the wonders of capitalism!!
 
In a capitalist system, isn't it about profits over people?
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Nov 19 08:51AM -0800


> In a capitalist system, isn't it about profits over people?
 
What in the world would make you think that???? My next question is, how
old are you? 30, 40, 50, 60, or older? I'm asking for a reason.
"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Nov 18 09:19PM -0500

<ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4dc31fa8-a649-4cbd-bc55-fb4fd563ec29@googlegroups.com...
> https://weather.com/science/environment/news/2019-11-11-cities-ban-natural-gas-to-fight-climate-change
 
And how does banning the cheapest energy available help low income people
already suffering with income equality?
 
This nonsense is the backdoor antifracking movement.
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Nov 18 09:38PM -0800

On 11/16/2019 7:35 AM, John Weiss wrote:
> gas furnace in the home is 95-98% efficient.  Producing electricity from
> natural gas is AT BEST 50% efficient.  So banning home use will actually
> increase consumption!
 
So your solution is self declared a failure? You are a big help.
John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Nov 19 07:20AM -0800

On 11/18/2019 21:38, Bob F wrote:
 
>> electricity from natural gas is AT BEST 50% efficient.  So banning
>> home use will actually increase consumption!
 
> So your solution is self declared a failure? You are a big help.
 
Nope. If implemented, my solution would not be a failure. If NOT
implemented, no other solution to the problem is going to be successful.
 
My proposed solution shows the scope of the problem, which otherwise
will be severely underestimated, causing ANY attempts to resolve the
problem to ultimately fail.
"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Nov 18 09:10PM -0500

<ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes-finds/2019/02/09/everything-you-need-to-know-before-buying-a-weighted-blanket/#1d1edcf36b07
 
The things that exist that I would never think of.
 
The last thing I want is a blanket that weighs more.
 
As weighted blankets exist, do weightless blankets exist? Or do I just crank
up the heat so I don't need a blanket?
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Nov 18 07:28PM -0700

On 11/18/2019 07:10 PM, catalpa wrote:
 
> The last thing I want is a blanket that weighs more.
 
> As weighted blankets exist, do weightless blankets exist? Or do I just crank
> up the heat so I don't need a blanket?
 
I thought a weighted blanket was something you wrapped your wife in
before you threw her in the lake.
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Monday, November 18, 2019

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Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net>: Nov 18 05:59AM -0800

> On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 10:09:19 PM UTC-7, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > https://news.google.com/search?q=boeing%20737&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
 
> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/boeing-workers-raised-red-flags-about-safety-of-737-max-jet
 
Exactly. Something is very, very wrong at Boeing where such obvious and
serious problems got identified, yet nothing happened. Some people should
probably go to jail. And not one word from Boeing about how the system
failed, what they've done to fix the system, etc.
 
Also mysteriously missing in all this is what was the root cause of the
actual two failures? It looks 99.9% like it was MCAS getting a wrong
input from the AOA sensor. But why? Why did two close to new AOA
sensors fail? Was it the AOA, the installation, wiring? What?
And if it's the AOA are they used on other planes? Does the company
that makes them have similar designs in other planes that could fail
in a similar way?
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Nov 17 06:04PM -0800


> https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/19-red-flags-to-watch-out-for-when-buying-a-home-53080
 
> https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/10/30/home-building-red-flags-what-to-watch-for/4052275002/
 
Too late. I bought mine almost 32 years ago.
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Sunday, November 17, 2019

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 17 03:28PM -0800

https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/19-red-flags-to-watch-out-for-when-buying-a-home-53080
 
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/10/30/home-building-red-flags-what-to-watch-for/4052275002/
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net>: Nov 17 07:19AM -0800


> Standard 737? Of course.
 
> 737 Max?
 
> Kinda funny how most people don't think of what plane they are flying but everyone has heard of the 737MAX and no one wants to fly on one.
 
It recently got worse for Boeing. They thought they had fixed just the
MCAS system and that was it. Upon testing, some new issue showed up which
now requires the flight computers to have changes made too. To do that
and certify it has added to the delay. And since they screwed up so badly
before, how much confidence should we have that they won't screw up
something again in the new work? My concern level has ticked up on any
planes that have rolled out of Boeing in the last few years. Like the 777-X.
Anyone want to be among the first to fly on that when it rolls out?
They already had to return the jet engines that the first test plane used
because there is a problem causing premature wear. Then some door blew
off during a pressure test. IDK, I used to strongly prefer taking a Boeing
plane over Airbus, but that's gone now.
 
Can anyone explain why that CEO is still there? I've never heard him
describe what lead to this disaster. I've never heard him describe
what internal investigation is going on, what they have done to examine
all the other airplane design and builds, what they have done to fix
whatever problems actually lead to this disaster. All I've heard is
sorry, we're fixing it.
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 17 03:20PM -0800

> https://news.google.com/search?q=boeing%20737&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
 
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/boeing-workers-raised-red-flags-about-safety-of-737-max-jet
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Nov 17 02:59PM -0800

https://nypost.com/2017/09/15/coach-seating-on-airplanes-is-a-titanic-waiting-to-happen/
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Nov 16 07:27PM -0700

On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
> fathom it either. The stupid lib argument is that it would be racist
> because back in the 60s water hoses were used to push back civil rights
> demonstrators. Never mind that was FIRE HOSES and this is power washers.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Territorial_Imperative
 
Without even getting into the politics I have to believe the people
promoting the idea had never been to Seattle. Or Portland. If nothing
else this is the stomping ground of the 9th Circuit, the most screwed up
court in the land.
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net>: Nov 17 07:27AM -0800

On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 10:35:10 AM UTC-5, John Weiss wrote:
> level that is sustainable. Restrictions on the number of children a
> couple can have was tried in China, and worked to some extent, but was
> deemed socially unacceptable.
 
It's interesting that in all the discussions about global warming,
decline of species, loss of forests, you never hear discussion of
dealing with the biggest driver of that, population growth. And even
if we did, I see little chance of it happening. For example here in
the US, Social Security is already facing a crisis, as there are more
retirees living longer, so they desperately need more new money flowing
in. You can only get that by raising the tax rate or more people working.
I think you'll find similar issues in most countries. The various
activist groups should join forces on an effort to reduce population
growth.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
> A gas furnace in the home is 95-98% efficient. Producing electricity
> from natural gas is AT BEST 50% efficient. So banning home use will
> actually increase consumption!
 
+1
 
Especially dumb when most nat gas usage in homes is from 5pM to 7AM,
ie when the sun isn't shining. I guess encouraging electric water
heaters might be a net positive, heating the water mostly during the
day. But if you look at the cost of fuels, it's a disaster compared
to nat gas and any delta is still pretty much a fart in the wind.
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