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* Everybody will be happy with the Dutch model! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* All the bike lanes lead nowhere - 5 messages, 3 authors
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* Mexiphonies in the town of Bell, California - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* $14.50 to pick up my mail ??!!? bogus, or not? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* The conflict b/ bike & car comes from "no man's land" - 2 messages, 1 author
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 23 2010 11:21 pm
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TOPIC: Everybody will be happy with the Dutch model!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 8:21 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


(Sorry to turn a little political, but everything is related in the
jungle. The subject is happiness and obesity in the Netherlands vs.
America, which is discussed in a religious forum. Yes, I believe they
are a big part of the problem)

On Jul 24, 5:15 am, BE-VA <blackwater-evangil...@testland.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:05:42 -0400, Rinaldo of Capadoccia wrote
> (in article <dclc46h1dglaa0kumt24dqka8rc4pau...@4ax.com>):
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:57:01 -0400, BE-VA
> > <blackwater-evangil...@testland.org> wrote:
>
> >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:17 -0400, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator
> >> of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote
> >> (in article
> >> <1e7b2a19-bf54-4a73-ba07-80596d438...@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>):
>
> >>> Subject: Everybody will be happy with the Dutch model!
> >>> From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement
>
> >>> of Tantra-Hammock" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> >>> Date: Today 1:49 PM
> >>> Newsgroups: alt.atheism, alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.atheism.satire,
> >>> alt.religion.christianity.hypocrisy, alt.polyamory
>
> >>> The men are happy because of the girls; the ladies and gays are happy
> >>> because
>
> >>> they have rights and because they have men; the cyclists are happy because
> >>> they have respect; everybody is happy because they are safe, etc, etc.
>
> >>> Perhaps the happiest of all will be the cyclists! I've been saying that
> >>> all
> >>> along, and now it is confirmed...
>
> >>> "The five happiest countries in the world — Denmark, Finland, Norway,
> >>> Sweden
> >>> and the Netherlands — are all clustered in the same region, and all enjoy
> >>> high levels of prosperity."
>
> >> And all those who exist in this little cluster are children of the state.,
> >> with no obligations other than to work and give their earniing to the state
> >> so that the state can keep their children happy.
>
> > Yeah, fuck your ideological take; did you notice "happiest"?
> > It isn't an external judgment, but self-reported.
>
> Everybody is happy when the lunch is free. But the time will come when they
> have to pay for the beer.
>

That's exactly what we are going through now. The Christians supported
the war and now we are in big debt. All the basic services, like
hospitals and public transportation are cut down.

If they had taxed the fuel up front, we wouldn't be in this mess. It
is said, "the Democrats tax and the Republicans borrow," but nobody
messes with taxing gasoline.


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TOPIC: All the bike lanes lead nowhere
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 8:29 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


On Jul 24, 9:13 am, "J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > Many of these routes lead to most dangerous areas, which only those
> > with a death-wish dare to cross. But I refuse to lead suicidal
> > missions.
>
> Thanks for the good news!
>
> With luck, that should cut down on the numbers of idiots on bicycles.
>
> Maybe we could have more bike lanes that lead to such places. I often think
> we'd get rid of all of them with some well-placed deep shafts that they and
> their &#*&$^ bikes would dive into, never to be seen again upon sailing
> through a red light or stop sign.

That arrogant attitude toward the weak almost guarantees you that real
suicide bombers will come to spoil your nice dreams. Dream on, we are
in a jungle.

We cyclists are the only ones that can bring peace by example...

http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE

http://lesmollomollets.blogspot.com/


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 8:49 am
From: Mrs Irish Mike


On Jul 23, 4:08 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I understand the roads should lead to Rome, and the bike lanes should
> lead to Amsterdam, but here in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and much of the
> States I gather, they lead nowhere. They are built for some mysterious
> purpose (probably some CONTRACT) and they don't have any known
> purpose. There are dozens around but there's no connection, north to
> south, or east to west.
>
> But they do count toward the total miles of bike lanes, though some
> only appear on paper, such as this one...
>
> http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/fl/miami/451620827
>
> Many of these routes lead to most dangerous areas, which only those
> with a death-wish dare to cross. But I refuse to lead suicidal
> missions.
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> "Don't be a fool, don't be martyr, be an activist"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE

Eat your heart out. Look at the PDF versions to see we have bike
routes to commute, shop, and play.

http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=39402&


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 2:26 pm
From: Charmin


On Jul 24, 11:49 am, Mrs Irish Mike <wilma6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 4:08 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I understand the roads should lead to Rome, and the bike lanes should
> > lead to Amsterdam, but here in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and much of the
> > States I gather, they lead nowhere. They are built for some mysterious
> > purpose (probably some CONTRACT) and they don't have any known
> > purpose. There are dozens around but there's no connection, north to
> > south, or east to west.
>
> > But they do count toward the total miles of bike lanes, though some
> > only appear on paper, such as this one...
>
> >http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/fl/miami/451620827
>
> > Many of these routes lead to most dangerous areas, which only those
> > with a death-wish dare to cross. But I refuse to lead suicidal
> > missions.
>
> > -----------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "Don't be a fool, don't be martyr, be an activist"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE
>
> Eat your heart out. Look at the PDF versions to see we have bike
> routes to commute, shop, and play.
>
> http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=39402&

He has no place to go anyway, just wants to get out of the basement
and away from the two closest women in his life, mom and the
girlfriend with the large badonkadonk.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 2:52 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


On Jul 24, 12:43 pm, "J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:7952a9e0-
> >That arrogant attitude toward the weak almost guarantees you that real
> >suicide bombers will come to spoil your nice dreams. Dream on, we are
> >in a jungle.
> >We cyclists are the only ones that can bring peace by example...
>
> You cyclists have ti stio killing pedestrians first:
>
> http://road.cc/content/news/11356-pedestrian-deaths-see-cyclists-targ...
>
> Cheers,
> Jim Guthrie

I'm AGAINST cyclists on the sidewalk. They need to be on the road,
having a traffic lane to play it safe. Cyclists are pushed to the
sidewalks looking for safety and then nobody is safe, not even
themselves.

Banning cyclists from the sidewalks would a first step toward solving
the problem. Then they either tame traffic or the carnage would be too
much for the system to bear.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 2:55 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


On Jul 24, 5:26 pm, Charmin <char...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 11:49 am, Mrs Irish Mike <wilma6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 23, 4:08 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I understand the roads should lead to Rome, and the bike lanes should
> > > lead to Amsterdam, but here in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and much of the
> > > States I gather, they lead nowhere. They are built for some mysterious
> > > purpose (probably some CONTRACT) and they don't have any known
> > > purpose. There are dozens around but there's no connection, north to
> > > south, or east to west.
>
> > > But they do count toward the total miles of bike lanes, though some
> > > only appear on paper, such as this one...
>
> > >http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/fl/miami/451620827
>
> > > Many of these routes lead to most dangerous areas, which only those
> > > with a death-wish dare to cross. But I refuse to lead suicidal
> > > missions.
>
> > > -----------------------------------------------
>
> > > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > > "Don't be a fool, don't be martyr, be an activist"
>
> > >http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE
>
> > Eat your heart out. Look at the PDF versions to see we have bike
> > routes to commute, shop, and play.
>
> >http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=39402&
>
> He has no place to go anyway, just wants to get out of the basement
> and away from the two closest women in his life, mom and the
> girlfriend with the large badonkadonk.

I have many places to go, starting with the nudist beach. Then all the
shops and parks around.

Remember the name of the campaign:

"BIKE LOCALLY, BUY LOCALLY"

Also:

"LIFE'S A NUDIST BEACH!"

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TOPIC: Mexiphonies in the town of Bell, California
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 9:06 am
From: weary flake


Here's a report on high political salaries paid in Bell, California:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100724/ap_on_re_us/us_bell_salaries

The influence of Mexico?


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 3:57 pm
From: The Real Bev


On 07/24/10 09:06, weary flake wrote:

> Here's a report on high political salaries paid in Bell, California:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100724/ap_on_re_us/us_bell_salaries
>
> The influence of Mexico?

More likely the lack of influence of poor and/or illiterate Americans.
Apparently there were only 400 votes cast for some of the more
outrageous arrangements, with 250+ being cast by city employees.

Never underestimate the power of the shitheads to take advantage of the
ignorant or stupid.

--
Cheers, Bev
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"Everything sucks; reverse the wires and everything will blow."
-- Desert Ed

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TOPIC: $14.50 to pick up my mail ??!!? bogus, or not?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 3:53 pm
From: The Real Bev


On 07/23/10 09:42, Lou wrote:

> "rvanson"<rvanson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "The Henchman"<yup@yup.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> Sorry I have no answer for you. It seems we are required to do
>>>> everyone else's jobs nowadays. Hence, all the self-checkouts
>>>> (which I refuse to use). Remember when people pumped your gas,
>>>> checked out and BAGGED your groceries, and delivered and
>>>> picked up your mail? Oh it was so long ago. Welcome to
>>>> America.
>>>
>>> Oddly enuf they got rid of self checkouts at the walmart near my
>>> work. It's a 190 000 square foot building. They had 10 self
>>> checkouts and all of them are now gone. Theft, inability of
>>> customers to work the machines and the cost of maintence on the
>>> machines.
>>
>> What else did they expect? Walmart shoppers, most of whom dont
>> even have a GED, are going to use something as simple as a
>> self-checkout machine?
>>
>> It just proves how stupid most humans are.
>
> Talk about jumping to conclusions. Maybe most people don't use the
> machines because they realize it would eliminate jobs.

Hardly relevant and pretty unlikely. I prefer the machines unless I
have LOTS of the same item (the human checker is faster). Then it's a
tradeoff between the number of people in line at the regular checkstands
and the nuisance of having to repeatedly pass the same item over the
sensor until it finally gets read and listening to the simpy woman's
voice giving instructions. I want Darth Vader or Mistress Helga, not
Pollyanna.

--
Cheers, Bev
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"Everything sucks; reverse the wires and everything will blow."
-- Desert Ed

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TOPIC: The conflict b/ bike & car comes from "no man's land"
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 7:51 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


Think about it and you will realize that the conflict that we cyclists
endure (the car just has the easy handle) is the result of the
contested strip "to the right of the road," which is to say THE AREA
BOTH PARTIES CONTEST, ONE TO SURVIVE, THE OTHER TO SAVE TIME. I've
been riding the minimum distance from the curb and they still blow the
horn. Medium distance, they blast the horn. TAKING THE LANE... THEY GO
INTO A RAGE. So it is that in this grinding war of nerves, some get
crushed, some survive with bruises...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXAFcYLGrk8

LYRICS

"NO MAN'S LAND"

Headin' in or headin' out
Standing on the shore
Pause a moment to reflect
Which trip costs you more
Between the ever restless crowds

And the silence of your room
Spend an hour in no man's land
You'll be leaving soon

Victims come and victims go
There's always lots to spare

One victim lives the tragedy
One victim stops to stare

And still another walks on by
Pretending not to see
They're all out there in no man's land
'Cause it's the safest place to be

But sanctuary never comes
Without some kind of risk
Illusions without freedom

Never quite add up to bliss
The haunting and the haunted
Play a game no one can win
The spirits come at midnight

And by dawn they're gone again
And so it seems our destiny
To search and never rest
To ride that ever changing wave
That never seems to crest
To shiver in the darkest night
Afraid to make a stand
And then go back and do our time
Out there in no man's land

***

Someday the puppet masters of this world will realize the meaning of
this quote:

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" -ML King


-------------------------------------------

THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"Never bother with the puppets"

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE

http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 8:32 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


On Jul 24, 11:02 pm, "J.R.Guthrie" <jguth...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:a25d3f74-
> > Think about it and you will realize that the conflict that we cyclists
> > endure (the car just has the easy handle) is the result of the
>
> Cyclists are uniformly idiots. They run down pedestrians. They cheat at stop
> signs and traffic lights.
>
> If the motorists get 'em -- all to the good (though I will agree that
> motorists aren't the nicest people in the world, so I can sympathize on that
> score).
>
> But the fact remains, cyclists are uniformly idiots -- and we really need
> coops to go after them and enforce the law. If they break the law (and since
> they are unlicensed so traffic tickets are a joke) haul 'em in and let 'em
> spend a night in Rikers to teach them manners.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim Guthrie

You should do like the Taliban, but against the cyclists and other
frugal people:

"Money is our religion and we don't want people to get by on a bike or
set up a hammock"


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 6:04 pm
From: "Bob F"


Vic Smith wrote:
>> I have gotten acid reflux mostly from wheat-free meals.
>
>
> Maybe a pure wheat diet could help?
>

That'd be hard. What good is wheat only beer? Gotta have some barley.


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