Frugal Living: Apr 14, 2010

Wednesday, April 14, 2010

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TOPIC: What was the point of Jesus riding an ass, looking like an ass?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 13 2010 10:59 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Don Klipstein wrote:
> In
> <d5a655ce-461b-4392-9bac-b04a346d68c7@u34g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
>> I must confess that Jesus riding a British classic bicycle would have
>> commanded my respect, but him riding an ass!?
>>
>> On Apr 12, 10:22 pm, kenny <kmacad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hey i'm new to the group and as i browsed through the recent
>>> discussions i thought i'd top this one off with a funny picture
>>> from a kid's christian coloring book....
>>>
>>> http://bobhockey.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/jesus_riding_dinosaur1.jpg
>>
>> Jesus! He sure would have impressed more people by riding a dinosaur
>> than by riding an ass.
>>
>> And then what was the point of him riding an ass, looking like an
>> ass?
>>
>> You know what I think? THEY ARE COMPULSIVE LIARS!
>
> What makes one think that Jesus should have ridden a dinosaur around
> 2,000 years ago?
>
> Only fundamentalists who insist that the earth is only something like
> 6,000 years old claim that known dinosaurs, or even whatever the bones
> said to be from dinosaurs "actually" came from, existed more recently
> than 63-65 million years ago!

It was a joke, Joyce.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 7:31 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Apr 13, 10:18 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> In <d5a655ce-461b-4392-9bac-b04a346d6...@u34g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
>
>
> >I must confess that Jesus riding a British classic bicycle would have
> >commanded my respect, but him riding an ass!?
>
> >On Apr 12, 10:22 pm, kenny <kmacad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> hey i'm new to the group and as i browsed through the recent
> >> discussions i thought i'd top this one off with a funny picture from
> >> a kid's christian coloring book....
>
> >>http://bobhockey.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/jesus_riding_dinosaur1.jpg
>
> >Jesus! He sure would have impressed more people by riding a dinosaur
> >than by riding an ass.
>
> >And then what was the point of him riding an ass, looking like an ass?
>
> >You know what I think? THEY ARE COMPULSIVE LIARS!
>
> What makes one think that Jesus should have ridden a dinosaur around
> 2,000 years ago?
>
> Only fundamentalists who insist that the earth is only something like
> 6,000 years old claim that known dinosaurs, or even whatever the bones
> said to be from dinosaurs "actually" came from, existed more recently than
> 63-65 million years ago!
>
> - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

Christians never ask questions: They just follow. They love dinosaurs;
they love Jesus; they love money.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 10:59 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In <0389816f-99fd-4d42-9e7a-90f50a8a70e4@30g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:

>On Apr 13, 10:18 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
>> In <d5a655ce-461b-4392-9bac-b04a346d6...@u34g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
>> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>>
>> >I must confess that Jesus riding a British classic bicycle would have
>> >commanded my respect, but him riding an ass!?
>>
>> >On Apr 12, 10:22 pm, kenny <kmacad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> hey i'm new to the group and as i browsed through the recent
>> >> discussions i thought i'd top this one off with a funny picture from
>> >> a kid's christian coloring book....
>>
>> >>http://bobhockey.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/jesus_riding_dinosaur1.jpg
>>
>> >Jesus! He sure would have impressed more people by riding a dinosaur
>> >than by riding an ass.
>>
>> >And then what was the point of him riding an ass, looking like an ass?
>>
>> >You know what I think? THEY ARE COMPULSIVE LIARS!
>>
>> What makes one think that Jesus should have ridden a dinosaur around
>> 2,000 years ago?
>>
>> Only fundamentalists who insist that the earth is only something like
>> 6,000 years old claim that known dinosaurs, or even whatever the bones
>> said to be from dinosaurs "actually" came from, existed more recently than
>> 63-65 million years ago!
>>
>> - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
>
>Christians never ask questions: They just follow. They love dinosaurs;
>they love Jesus; they love money.

How about Christians who have good liking to what Jesus favored,
including lesser of love for money? How about Christians who give great
weight to dinosaurs being *at least essentially* extincted by a
cataclysmic event that they trust scientists to have occurred a goodly
63 to likely 65 million years ago, and who trust scientists who have
determined that Planet Earth formed around or somwewhat over 4 billion
years ago and that the Sun formed around 4.5 bilion years ago?

(To those in UK - where I say "billion" I mean multiplied by 1E+09,
as in how I have heard somewhat "thousand million". I have heard a bit
that in UK billion is square of milion as opposed to "thousand-million".)

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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TOPIC: TibetanMonkey goes to war!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 3:30 am
From: Charmin

On Apr 13, 8:20 pm, "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Face it, it's a war zone on our roads, and nothing like having the
> real thing...
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Nirve-Kilroy-Cruiser-Fenders-26-Inch/dp/B0027COOL0
>
> Yep, it's real tempting to have such a vehicle loaded with bananas
> ready to throw at drivers who ignore me as a real soldier of the
> VELORUTION.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> "Never underestimate a committed monkey on a bike!"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

The one trick pony only follows one command.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 7:29 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Apr 14, 3:30 am, Charmin <char...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Apr 13, 8:20 pm, "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Face it, it's a war zone on our roads, and nothing like having the
> > real thing...
>
> >http://www.amazon.com/Nirve-Kilroy-Cruiser-Fenders-26-Inch/dp/B0027COOL0
>
> > Yep, it's real tempting to have such a vehicle loaded with bananas
> > ready to throw at drivers who ignore me as a real soldier of the
> > VELORUTION.
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "Never underestimate a committed monkey on a bike!"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> The one trick pony only follows one command.

You got that right, MARCH ON!

Ultimately though THE MASK will fall off, and the beast will be
exposed.

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TOPIC: Why I didn't buy TurboTax AGAIN this year
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 4:13 am
From: Vic Smith

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:32:45 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101+es@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm a member of the Inner Circle, those brilliant few who offer their opinion
>of Intuit's products (which I used to love). As a valued member, I am given
>the opportunity to purchase TT direct from the factory at a price considerably
>more than I can buy it at Costco or one of the office big box stores; the
>advantage, of course, is that I get it SOONER than it appears on the shelves.
>
>Several years ago they priced themselves out of the market -- requiring me to
>spend significantly more in order to get Schedule C capability to additionally
>do taxes for a handyman making under $15K/year. I bought Tax Cut (H&RBlock)
>instead. Clunkier, but it does the job just as well -- except for not printing
>the IRS address on my 1040-ES forms, an address which was NOT easy to find
>through the regular channels.
>
>Anyway, today TT wanted me to renew my "membership" by answering a few
>questions about which variety of TT I used this year. For the first time I
>answered truthfully -- NONE. I figured they'd wonder why. Nope. They just
>said 'Sorry, you gotta buy in to be a member.'
>
>They have previously ignored my suggestion that they give previous 'valued
>customers' a price break. They are now unconcerned about the reasons that
>'valued customers' shopped elsewhere. It may be noted That Washington Mutual
>didn't care why I was so angry when I closed our accounts. I think there's a
>lesson there.
>
>I used to think Intuit was a good company producing a good product. Now
>they're just one more company that deserves a trip down the drain.

You shouldn't get emotionally involved with a corporation.
TT will be around a long time.
I've been using it for years. Went to TaxCut one year because TT was
priced too high, and regretted it.
Might be because I'm just accustomed to the TT style.
But I've done up to 7 returns in a year for me, my ex and my kids.
Down to 4 returns this year.
Think I paid $42 for the TT Deluxe. That included the state.
Maybe the cheapest ever, since they always charged about 20 bucks
for the state software before.
Think I found the best price on Amazon.
Just the fact that I can do futures contracts for my return without
filling in the actual gov forms, wading through IRS pubs, and doing
math calcs makes it worth that for me.
What griped me the most in past years is the e-filing fee, usually
$14.95 per return.
I'd usually print and mail, which is inefficient for me and guv.
And my printer always picks tax time to run out of ink.
This year TT allowed e-filing all the Fed returns free.
But they want $19.95 for a state e-file.
Went to state web site to e-file those at no charge.
Took about 15 minutes each.
Probably would have spent hours and hours reading IRS pubs to get the
info on correct filing, deductions, etc, then doing calculations and
rechecking math - TT did that for me.
It's always been useful for quickly finding out which way to go with
dependents too, if you're in that situation.
My daughter started school teaching last year, and TT nicely
highlighted a "teachers expense" deduction during the step-by-step
that paid for the TT cost right there.
I might well have missed that.
Remember going to the post office or bank to get IRS pubs?
I could go on and on.
But if you don't find TT useful, just don't use it.
No sense taking it personally.
This year and last TT presents a marketing form to fill out before you
get into it. That pissed me off and I didn't like doing the 2 clicks
to get past it, but now it's automatic.
While I'm here, I'll mention a possible frugal way to score cheap TT.
Most people don't know that if you don't owe tax, April 15th is
meaningless. You've got to October to file with no penalty.
And if you owe a small amount, the late-filing penalties are light
anyway.
I've seen TT real cheap on eBay after April 15th, so you can get it
practically free.
But basically, if for some reason they get behind on things, folks
shouldn't get all stressed about that April 15th date.
Not recommending procrastination, though I'm often a fan of that.
Just that April 15th is not worth worrying about.
Better to worry if that itching means the dog has fleas.

--Vic

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 6:39 am
From: "h"

"The Real Bev" <bashley101+es@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hq3cvu$kku$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> Several years ago they priced themselves out of the market -- requiring me
> to spend significantly more in order to get Schedule C capability to
> additionally do taxes for a handyman making under $15K/year.

Agreed. To buy turbo tax this year, with all the schedules I need, would
have cost me $99. And if there was a problem down the line it's not like TT
would come to the audit! My CPA only charges me $75 to do my taxes with a
LOT of schedules, and he always finds me more deductions than I could find
on my own. This year he saved me $900 over what I had figured out. That
said, the only reason he's so cheap is that I've already sorted out
absolutely every number he could possibly need and provided a spreadsheet
with all the data. He's worth the money because he knows how to get the most
out of those numbers.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 9:11 am
From: SMS

On 13/04/10 8:32 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

> I used to think Intuit was a good company producing a good product. Now
> they're just one more company that deserves a trip down the drain.

It's ridiculously priced these days. Plus if you have a complex tax
return it isn't very useful.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 11:21 am
From: "Bob F"

Bob F wrote:

That should be

> I actually find TaxCut (now H&R Block) easier to use
> anyway.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 5:04 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 04/13/2010 09:04 PM, Bob F wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>> I'm a member of the Inner Circle, those brilliant few who offer their
>> opinion of Intuit's products (which I used to love). As a valued
>> member, I am given the opportunity to purchase TT direct from the
>> factory at a price considerably more than I can buy it at Costco or
>> one of the office big box stores; the advantage, of course, is that
>> I get it SOONER than it appears on the shelves.
>> Several years ago they priced themselves out of the market --
>> requiring me to spend significantly more in order to get Schedule C
>> capability to additionally do taxes for a handyman making under
>> $15K/year. I bought Tax Cut (H&RBlock) instead. Clunkier, but it
>> does the job just as well -- except for not printing the IRS address
>> on my 1040-ES forms, an address which was NOT easy to find through
>> the regular channels.
>> Anyway, today TT wanted me to renew my "membership" by answering a few
>> questions about which variety of TT I used this year. For the first
>> time I answered truthfully -- NONE. I figured they'd wonder why. Nope. They
>> just said 'Sorry, you gotta buy in to be a member.'
>>
>> They have previously ignored my suggestion that they give previous
>> 'valued customers' a price break. They are now unconcerned about the
>> reasons that 'valued customers' shopped elsewhere. It may be noted
>> That Washington Mutual didn't care why I was so angry when I closed
>> our accounts. I think there's a lesson there.
>>
>> I used to think Intuit was a good company producing a good product. Now
>> they're just one more company that deserves a trip down the drain.
>
> I gave up on TT when they started the absurd copy protection scheme that would
> make it unable to operate if you upgraded your computer after initial
> installation. Since I constantly upgrade my PC, this was not acceptable. I
> switched to TaxCut, and have been a happy user ever since. I actually find
> TaxCut (not H&R Block) easier to use anyway.
>
> I cheat, and buy it off Ebay early in February. Last year it was $4. This year
> $10 for the basic version. I don't need a state tax program.
>
> Doesn't TurboTax have a free online version?

Probably, and I think my brokers do too. I just feel happier with my data on
MY machine, not theirs.

--
Cheers, Bev
Far away in a strange land

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 5:09 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 04/14/2010 09:11 AM, SMS wrote:

> On 13/04/10 8:32 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> I used to think Intuit was a good company producing a good product. Now
>> they're just one more company that deserves a trip down the drain.
>
> It's ridiculously priced these days. Plus if you have a complex tax
> return it isn't very useful.

Capital gains, schedule C, foreign tax credit... Used to have office-at-home
and 179 direct expense stuff. It's been a long time since we had any
deductions to itemize that are even a small fraction of the standard deduction.

I used to read Pub 17. Now I just feed in numbers.

--
Cheers, Bev
Far away in a strange land

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TOPIC: Jesus would have driven a van!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 5:48 am
From: Charmin

On Apr 12, 12:08 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We finally figured it out: He would have used 13 bicycles to spread
> the message locally, and then a van to go places farther away.
>
"If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."
You try to mask the fact that you are a beggar with no prospects with
your "green" Internet nature.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 7:27 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Apr 14, 5:48 am, Charmin <char...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Apr 12, 12:08 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > We finally figured it out: He would have used 13 bicycles to spread
> > the message locally, and then a van to go places farther away.
>
> "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."
> You try to mask the fact that you are a beggar with no prospects with
> your "green" Internet nature.

I see. Still I see more chances for my ideas changing the world than
Jesus'...

You are all waiting for him to come and rescue you from this evil
place, right?

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TOPIC: Free Eye Exercises
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 7:19 am
From: VFW

In article
<7a419d55-abc7-4ad2-bde2-4e0733b12d02@c21g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Charmin <charmin@mailinator.com> wrote:

> On Apr 12, 10:47 pm, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> > Check out the free eye exercise program from American Vision Institute
> > atwww.visiontherapy.net. This was created by some of American's
> > leading eye doctors and is designed to reduce dependency on corrective
> > lenses. Also gives new treatment for cataract, glaucoma, and macular
> > degeneration. Also check out the research supporting the program,
> > click RESEARCH on the index bar.
> > --
> > Enjoy this moment ! Thanks. g.
>
> "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
> expecting different results."

and, well, I do repeat my exercises. I didn't know it could be a
sickness.
--
Enjoy this moment ! Thanks. g.

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TOPIC: Doctor getting kickbacks?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 2:56 pm
From: peewee

I am contemplating surgery. I have a surgeon that uses one of
the outpatient surgery centers to do his work and he
typically does thousands of the same operation a year at this
same place.

I have reason to think he maybe have a financial interest if
not outright getting kickbacks from this surgery center and
he is very closed about disclosing costs associated with
surgery.

Is there a way, short of taking him to court that I can
determine if he has a financial interest in this center where
he does his cutting?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 4:18 pm
From: "h"

"peewee" <pewee_invalid@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hq5dlj$3rq$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>I am contemplating surgery. I have a surgeon that uses one of
> the outpatient surgery centers to do his work and he
> typically does thousands of the same operation a year at this
> same place.
>
> I have reason to think he maybe have a financial interest if
> not outright getting kickbacks from this surgery center and
> he is very closed about disclosing costs associated with
> surgery.
>
> Is there a way, short of taking him to court that I can
> determine if he has a financial interest in this center where
> he does his cutting?

Umm, why does it matter? He has a right to make whatever deals he likes with
whomever he chooses. You have the right to know all costs before you
purchase. No one in their right mind buys something before they know the
cost. If he won't tell you what it will cost, tell him you'll go some place
else. Then, if he still won't tell you, go some place else. You can't sue
him just because he has "relationships" with other organizations. Sheesh.
What are you, 12?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 4:25 pm
From: Samantha Hill

peewee wrote:
> I am contemplating surgery. I have a surgeon that uses one of
> the outpatient surgery centers to do his work and he
> typically does thousands of the same operation a year at this
> same place.

I have a suggestion. Ask him if he has a different recommendation of
where to have the surgery done and why he chooses that one center, and
if he had a second preference if you could not get your surgery done
there, who would he recommend.

Alternatively, call the surgery center and ask them if the doctor has a
financial interest in it because you are personally opposed to having
surgery there if he is getting a kickback.

He may prefer that center because they are easier to work with, because
it takes the largest variety of insurance plans, or a whole myriad of
other perfectly valid and reasonable reasons.

The physician I worked for did the vast preponderance of procedures at
one outpatient surgery center because they never gave him a hard time
about scheduling, they always had the right equipment there for the
procedures he needed to do, etc. And he did a lot of workers' comp
procedures there, and worker's comp guidelines generally state that a
physician cannot do surgery on a workers' comp patient at a facility
where the physician has a financial interest. He did have three or four
other locations that he had privileges at and would do procedures at if
he had to, and he might have had a vested interest in one or more of
them, but he did not prefer to use them, usually for reasons like they
didn't have the equipment that he needed to do the procedures (even
though he gave them a list, and one time he didn't find this out until
he had already started and had to make do with something else), they
would cancel blocks of time he had reserved without letting him know,
the facility had a poor track record of getting insurance to pay for the
procedures that were covered by the patient's insurance policy, etc.

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 5:06 pm
From: vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com

Did I do something wrong? I thought I got some stuff at a good price
and at checkout, the shipping was almost foru times the price of
merchandise. I hope th eorder didn't go through, I'm pretty sure I
cancelle dit, but I feel bothered by it

- = -
Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm http://www.facebook.com/vasjpan2
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 5:16 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 04/14/2010 05:06 PM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

> Did I do something wrong? I thought I got some stuff at a good price
> and at checkout, the shipping was almost foru times the price of
> merchandise. I hope th eorder didn't go through, I'm pretty sure I
> cancelle dit, but I feel bothered by it

Anybody who charges you before you know how much shipping will cost is either a
crook or maikes up for the price by inflating the shipping costs. Call your
credit card company and see what they say.

If they can ship cheap stuff from Hong Kong for free, why pay inflated rates
for 'normal' shipping?

--
Cheers, Bev
Far away in a strange land

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 6:51 pm
From: vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com

I wanted to know if buy.com does this regularly or I mis-used it?

I think it didn't go through. I never pressed "place your order"

I'm still not at peace until I see my credit card statement.

- = -
Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 7:33 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 04/14/2010 06:51 PM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

> I wanted to know if buy.com does this regularly or I mis-used it?
>
> I think it didn't go through. I never pressed "place your order"

You're probably OK. I've ordered a couple of things from buy.com (Nikon
digicam in 2000 was the first) with no problem. I think everybody sends order
acknowledgments now. I do screen-grabs unless the ack arrives so quickly that
I don't need to.

> I'm still not at peace until I see my credit card statement.

Can't you log in to your CC account and see if you were charged?

--
Cheers, Bev
Far away in a strange land

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 7:47 pm
From: ckedsdf

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 10:15 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"

If I told you that my girlfriend is running away from a boring loser
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 14 2010 10:36 pm
From: Elmo

On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:05:23 -0400, mm wrote:

>>Anyone have an easy recipe for home made carbonated cola (with a similar
>>kick as coca cola or pepsi)?
>
> What you could do is buy the cola commerically, open the containers
> and remove the water through evaporation or assisted evaporation.
>
> Then add what remains to your carbonated liquid, and mix.

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