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Sunday, December 9, 2007

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 1:54 am
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 2:02 am
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 5:48 am
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 2:38 am
From: "Chloe"

"Lou" <lpogodajr292185@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:e8CdnXTeoMnt0sbanZ2dnUVZ_qelnZ2d@comcast.com...
><snip>
> So when we've asked what the kids would like for Christmas, there's a list
> that each of the kids have put together. While I think that's a great
> idea,
> things are out of hand - this year the cheapest item on each kid's list is
> over $50, and frankly, I don't even know what any of these things are
> except
> for an Xbox, but no way are we spending $1,000 bucks on electronic toys
> for
> kids (naturally, each wants his/her own) - we don't spend that on toys for
> ourselves.
<snip>

Give them each a gift card for an amount you're comfortable with. If the
parents were going to share the wish lists with you, they should have made
sure the kids each scanned in a couple of items that cost less than $50.

And that way, if they want to pool their money for a shared gift, they can.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 7:38 am
From: Donna

"Lou" <lpogodajr292185@comcast.net> wrote in
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There are so many frugal suggestions - offering the kids time to go to a
couple movies of their choice is a good one. Kids love to go to the movies
and sometimes parents don't have the time to do it.

Art supplies are always good. Anything - markers, paints, decopage stuff,
check out a craft store and then go to a discount store and make up your
own art kit.

Kits to make anything - picture frames, bird houses, that kind of stuff.

A yard item - a climber, a zip line, a play house. They'll outgrow those
fairly soon, but it will be something that you can build or buy for not too
much money that they'll all get to use.

I'd stay away from toy stores. There is so much available commercially for
way too much money and most of it falls apart way too quickly. Give them
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--
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Date: Sun, Dec 9 2007 5:13 am
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On Dec 9, 3:28 am, "It's Americans OR Democrats"
<rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Every other week you read in the newspapers about some old Jew (or
> younger family member) trying to get back art or other goods "taken"
> from them by the Nazis in WW2. What is NEVER said is that much of
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> the economic crisis created by the Treaty of Versailles. German
> unemployment skyrocketed, inflation made cash worthless so many
> families had to sell whatever they could just to eat. Unfortunately,
> the buyers in those days were Jewish merchants who took advantage of
> the plight of these people, offering them $0.02 to $0.05 on the dollar
> for the artworks and other goods
>
> Flash forward 55 years to 1979 during the silver market boom (the Hunt
> brothers in Texas decided to corner the silver market, and drove the
> price from $4 an oz to almost $60) and I remember going into a
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> currency. People were lining up to sell silver dinnerware, coins,
> etc. This was during the Jimmy Carter economic horror when inflation
> was 13% and interest rates hit 17%. All I remember is this old hook
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> finding 8 place settings in "Grand Baroque." No doubt, the wife of
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>
> So, the point is, whenever there is economic chaos, a certain group
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