Tuesday, May 30, 2017

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Derald <derald@invalid.net>: May 30 02:41PM -0400


>Do you have a favorite?
Low-end Braun "Oral B" somethingorother (±$25 on "sale") with
"floss action" brush head. Has 2-min. timer. Instructions are for
battery disposal, not for battery replacement, if that means anything to
you....
I'm too old for it to make much difference to my dental health but,
if I had a kid, there's no doubt the brat would be using an electric
toothbrush, even if I had to block the exits, whip and chair in hand!
--
Derald
 
"...the only traits that are passed down in your family are perversity,
ego-centrism, laziness and sociopathic tendencies."
--Lynn Barton, Filedheacht Music School, East Bridgewater, MA 2016
21blackswan@gmail.com: May 29 01:06PM -0700

> Do you have a favorite?
 
large medium brush
 
i use a battery powered one day, and a manual brush then next day,
switching every other day, and also flossing every other day
 
marc
Dee <d@d.d>: May 30 12:32PM

ggggg9271@gmail.com wrote in news:e8524269-decf-4089-90bf-1bd78d419961
 
> Do you have a favorite?
 
Dr. Collins Perio is super-soft and the tips are feathered so they
slide easily under the gumline.
 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006I79N4I
John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: May 30 07:14AM -0700

ggggg9271@gmail.com wrote
 
>> Do you have a favorite?
 
SoniCare.
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Monday, May 29, 2017

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: May 28 06:13PM -0700

Do you have a favorite?
analogdial <analogdial@mail.com>: May 28 03:00AM

Bob F wrote:
 
 
> purchase instead of a package of 4 when we need them. So they sit around
> for years until we finally put them to use. No surprise they don't last
> long.
 
If my batteries failed after their expiration date, I wouldn't think
there was anything remarkable about that.
 
It could be that some distributors have extreme temperature variations
where they store the batteries and some don't.
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Saturday, May 27, 2017

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analogdial <analogdial@mail.com>: May 27 09:06AM

Dennis wrote:
 
 
> by a leaking battery. Now it seems like they leak regularly again.
> Maybe because production moved to China/Viet Nam/Maylasia/etc ?
 
> Dennis (evil)
 
I have alot of battery operated devices and I used to trust only
American made alkaline batteries. In my expirence, they are getting
crappier. The Duracalls have been the worst, the Ray-O-Vacs some what
better and the Energizers better yet, but still so-so. D cells would
be the most likely to leak, followed by AA cells. C cells and AAA
cells seemed fairly safe.
 
The worst part is, they would be leaking yet still seem to have lots of
power.
 
I figured the inexpensive (with coupon) Harbor Freight Chinese
made alkaline batteries couldn't be any worse, so I started buying
those. Haven't had a leaker in about 3 years. They've all come to a
normal, dead battery end of life.
 
I don't quite feel like coming to a generalized conclusion, yet. It
could be production run issues and I just got lucky. But I wish I could
say the American made batteries were unquestionably better.
BigDog811 <bigdog811@gmail.com>: May 27 07:56AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 1:02:56 PM UTC-4, Dennis wrote:
> --
> My output is down, my income is up, I take a short position on the long bond and
> my revenue stream has its own cash flow. -George Carlin
 
Haven't had that problem myself. But I don't have that many battery operated devices...phones, tablets, and remotes excepted. Just a few flashlights strategically placed around the house, and a weather station. I change those during my biannual smoke/CO alarm backup battery change even if they seem to be good. I only buy brand name cells at a military commissary I shop at. It has high product turnover, therefore very fresh stock on the shelves. I think some of the those problems have less to do with where they're made than discount stores selling brand name stuff that's "new old stock" they pick up for cheap from suppliers that have had it in a warehouse too long. Don't use store brand batteries so I have no experience with them.
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: May 27 11:23AM -0700

On 5/23/2017 10:02 AM, Dennis wrote:
> by a leaking battery. Now it seems like they leak regularly again.
> Maybe because production moved to China/Viet Nam/Maylasia/etc ?
 
> Dennis (evil)
 
I wonder if the current battery failure problems may result from the
modern practice of buying large blocks of batteries at Costco in one
purchase instead of a package of 4 when we need them. So they sit around
for years until we finally put them to use. No surprise they don't last
long.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 27 11:47AM -0700

On 05/27/2017 11:23 AM, Bob F wrote:
 
> purchase instead of a package of 4 when we need them. So they sit around
> for years until we finally put them to use. No surprise they don't last
> long.
 
If they supposedly expire ("best if used by...") in 2025 I don't see why
it matters where they sit.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
Brian (Talking to crowd): You need to be independent minded.
Crowd: We are! We are!
Person in crowd: I'm not! -- Monty Python
Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net>: May 27 01:10PM -1100

>purchase instead of a package of 4 when we need them. So they sit around
>for years until we finally put them to use. No surprise they don't last
>long.
 
I've been using the same Eneloop and Sony rechargeables for about 7
years. I have only AA and AAA Mini-Mags. I refuse to buy anything
using C or D or non-LED flashlights.
Went to Sony when a basement flood took out my Eneloop chargers.
IMO they last longer on a charge and have better chargers, which also
charge my older Eneloops.
The LED Mini-Mags are good, but not perfect. They will roll off a
work surface, so I put a tab tie loop in the lanyard hole.
The on/off/focus is clumsy to use one-handed. But I like them.
Derald <derald@invalid.net>: May 27 10:15AM -0400


>Anyone else notice that alkaline batteries have been getting crappier?
I've noticed them to be shorter lived in my mid-'80's vintage
minimag. Of course, the little gas-filled bulbs ain't what they used to
be, which devalues comparison. DW&I each have minimags that get
frequent daily use and in which we always used major brand AA cells
until fifteen or so years ago when the household switched over to store
branded cells with, subjectively, no apparent difference in performance.
I only had one set of cells leak and that was a set left in a
(expensive for its time) VTVM for the duration of my service by USN
(late 1960's).
--
Derald
 
"...the only traits that are passed down in your family are perversity,
ego-centrism, laziness and sociopathic tendencies."
--Lynn Barton, Filedheacht Music School, East Bridgewater, MA 2016
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Wednesday, May 24, 2017

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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 23 09:43AM -0700

A while back a friend and I went through Lehman Cave in Nevada. One of
the people had a wonderful TruTorch flashlight ($56.00) which I
immediately coveted. There are a lot of clones on Amazon and ebay, but
I don't want to buy anything on either place (or alibaba) that I might
want to return. I finally bought one of the $20 as-seen-on-tv
Bell&Howells (same price everywhere) from Dick's across the street.
 
I'm happy. Bright as shit and seems nicely made. Nuisance to have to
cycle through modes rather than have a simple on/off switch, but you
can't have everything.
 
Puts the free Harbor Freight flashlights, heretofore much admired, to shame.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
"As a mortician I always tie the shoelaces of the dead together.
If there actually is a zombie apocalypse it will be hilarious."
Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: May 23 10:02AM -0700

On Tue, 23 May 2017 09:43:03 -0700, The Real Bev
>cycle through modes rather than have a simple on/off switch, but you
>can't have everything.
 
>Puts the free Harbor Freight flashlights, heretofore much admired, to shame.
 
What type/number of batteries does it require?
 
Anyone else notice that alkaline batteries have been getting crappier?
When I was a kid, batteries regularly leaked if left in devices. I had
many ruined toys, radios, flashlights, etc. Then for a while, 20 years
or so, they seemed to get better and I rarely had anything destroyed
by a leaking battery. Now it seems like they leak regularly again.
Maybe because production moved to China/Viet Nam/Maylasia/etc ?
 
Dennis (evil)
--
My output is down, my income is up, I take a short position on the long bond and
my revenue stream has its own cash flow. -George Carlin
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 23 12:19PM -0700

On 05/23/2017 10:02 AM, Dennis wrote:
>>can't have everything.
 
>>Puts the free Harbor Freight flashlights, heretofore much admired, to shame.
 
> What type/number of batteries does it require?
 
3 AAA, not included. They go into one of the Harbor-Freight-like triple
adapters. Some of the clones come with a Li-ion rechargeable, sleeve to
make it fit and a charger, as well as one of the triple-AAA HF adapters.
Can't remember the number, but it should be easy to find.
 
> or so, they seemed to get better and I rarely had anything destroyed
> by a leaking battery. Now it seems like they leak regularly again.
> Maybe because production moved to China/Viet Nam/Maylasia/etc ?
 
I bought a block of Maxells maybe 10 years ago, all of which leaked
before they were put in anything. The previous batch of Kirklands
(maybe the ones that expired in 2016) had quite a few leakers, a few of
which leaked still in the package. I bought Duracells at Costco when
they had them on sale but haven't opened that package yet.
 
Maybe 20 years ago a friend gave me a really nifty little single-AA LED
flashlight. I carried it around for a long time and then left it in an
unused purse. Just found it again. The endcap is now welded to the
body, presumably by the battery. Even putting it in a vise and trying
to open it with channellocks was ineffective. I feel really bad about
it because it was really nice.
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
I'd rather trust the guys in the lab coats who aren't demanding
that I get up early on Sundays to apologize for being human.
-- Captain Splendid
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: May 23 03:37PM -0400

Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: May 23 03:45PM -0400

no-spam@sonic.net (Fake ID): May 24 06:03AM

In article <08q8ictihfdphl507885hvjaikk8pvttjl@4ax.com>,
>or so, they seemed to get better and I rarely had anything destroyed
>by a leaking battery. Now it seems like they leak regularly again.
>Maybe because production moved to China/Viet Nam/Maylasia/etc ?
 
I've had more things ruined by Kirkland batteries than I can remember.
Lights, radios, clocks.
 
My favorite "flashlight" also has battery problems. It's a 1.5 million candlepower spotlight that uses some unicorn of a 12V rechargeable SLA battery. The original battery didn't last long, but the "manufacturer" had already gone out of business and taken over by DeWalt. For a bit more than the original cost of the light I got a replacement battery, which also didn't last long. But when it worked...bright and well-focused--pull the trigger and light up all the critters. It was like a handheld car headlight.
 
m
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Monday, May 15, 2017

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wilma6116@gmail.com: May 15 10:49AM -0700

Centurylink offers a free service. Dial *78, choose the no solicitation option and viola! Now the caller is informed the resident does not accept solicitors, all others dial "1". You can then (or later, or before) put them on the accepted list and they won't hear the recording.
 
I was getting several a day, and now I haven't had one in months. Wish I knew about this year's ago. I bet other providers offer the same service. I was ready to pull the landline.
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Sunday, May 14, 2017

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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 13 08:20PM -0700

On 05/13/2017 09:15 AM, Bob F wrote:
 
> Does that Sentry device stop unwanted calls from ringing at all? Or does
> it ring once for them before it rejects them? What does it do for
> spammers that spoof your own number to the call?
 
You never hear a ring from rejects. There's already a list of rejected
numbers and you can reject anybody who gets through. Everybody starts
out getting the "Press 0 if you're a human..." message, and if you don't
reject them when they get through they never have to do that again.
 
I can't see how spoofing your own number would happen -- if you call
your own number you get a busy signal. Besides, that takes more time
and effort than a telemarketer would want to waste on somebody he
already knows would like to see his head on a pike.
 
Only a few lying bastards (one reminding us about the gold futures we'd
been discussing a few months ago, one wanting to sell us home
improvements, probably one more I can't remember) have had the guts to
press 0 ("If you're a telemarketer, please hang up...") and get passed
through. I kind of miss yelling at them, but not much :-)
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION. It comes bundled with the software.
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Saturday, May 13, 2017

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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 12 09:19PM -0700

> there is no incentive to curb TM calls, even if it would be an easy find and
> fix. With the VOIP using valuable satellite time, there is a cost to the
> provider when these calls tie up the links.
 
We have an Ooma VOIP device which connects via cablemodem. For a year
we were able to block spam calls, but there were a lot of first-timers.
Then we got a Sentry device, which requires first-time callers to
press 0 if they're not a telemarketer. If they lied (only a few in a
year) we immediately blacklist them. Friends only have to press 0 once,
from then on they're whitelisted automatically. Only $50 or so.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
I'd tell you a UDP joke, but you might not get it.
-- K.E. Long
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: May 13 09:15AM -0700

On 5/12/2017 9:19 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
 
> 0 if they're not a telemarketer. If they lied (only a few in a year) we
> immediately blacklist them. Friends only have to press 0 once, from
> then on they're whitelisted automatically. Only $50 or so.
 
Does that Sentry device stop unwanted calls from ringing at all? Or does
it ring once for them before it rejects them? What does it do for
spammers that spoof your own number to the call?
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Friday, May 12, 2017

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KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: May 12 05:44PM

I've been getting calls, which hang up on my answering machine message, for
years now from the same source. You'd think they'd take a hint by now.
Evidently these calls come from a country (602 area code IIRC) where phone
calls are sold wholesale. There's a couple of other numbers that keep
calling as well.
 
Maybe they get paid for dialing the calls, not making sales? Or both?
 
Do cell phone users hve this problem? No answering machine to screen calls?
I have a cell but it's normally turned off. I only use it in emergencies
when my landline isn't working or I'm not at home and need to make a call.
I almost never see a missed call listed and those are not telemarketing
calls.
 
 
--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
BigDog811 <bigdog811@gmail.com>: May 12 12:47PM -0700

On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 1:44:54 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
> calls.
 
> --
> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
 
Auto-dialers fishing for live numbers answered by people or machines that are then sold to various telemarketers, fund raisers, politicians, and other scam artists.
 
My cell phone is used exactly like yours and I too rarely find a missed call not from someone I know. I never give that number to anyone. Only immediate family and very few close friends have it. Not sure why cell numbers aren't targeted more, but I'm not complaining.
hchickpea@hotmail.com: May 12 07:41PM -0500

>I either ignore calls from numbers I don't know or let it ring many
>times before answering. Trolls and autodialers rarely let a phone ring
>more than 4 times,or so it seems.
 
My home phone is a VOIP over satellite, and I've had only five TM calls since
the beginning of the year, with two of those being the same charity
telemarketer. When I had a landline with AT&T there were often days with
multiple TM calls.
 
Follow the money. The telcoms get a minor income (some hundreth or thousandth
of a cent) every time ANY call uses the system. WIth an excess of capability,
there is no incentive to curb TM calls, even if it would be an easy find and
fix. With the VOIP using valuable satellite time, there is a cost to the
provider when these calls tie up the links.
Derald <derald@invalid.net>: May 12 05:14PM -0400

>when my landline isn't working or I'm not at home and need to make a call.
>I almost never see a missed call listed and those are not telemarketing
>calls.
I do, sort of. My household has two cell phones. One is the
"home" phone and is a ported landline number of ± 20-year's duration.
For 19 of those years, I paid for a "unpublished" number. It gets no
spurious calls. Another, "my" cell phone has been active for eleven
years and ported across two "virtual network" providers that resell
Verizon. It is off most of the time but, if left on for any length of
time, it is far more likely to receive bs calls, and those from either
of two numbers. I have messaging, data, and voice mail disabled on both
numbers by the provider. That number has narrow distribution and an
incoming call from a number not on its contact list is by definition bs.
I either ignore calls from numbers I don't know or let it ring many
times before answering. Trolls and autodialers rarely let a phone ring
more than 4 times,or so it seems.
--
Derald
—"...the only traits that are passed down in your family are perversity,
ego-centrism, laziness and sociopathic tendencies."
--Lynn Barton, Filedheacht Music School, East Bridgewater, MA 2016
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Friday, May 5, 2017

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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 05 12:45PM -0700

On 05/05/2017 07:27 AM, Derald wrote:
 
>><sigh> even the trolls are stupid these days.
> H, sometimes, I really miss Soul Doctor and Full Metal Grotus. It'll
> never be the same.
 
Rod Speed is still around, unfortunately.
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
"You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your
informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant."
- Harlan Ellison
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: May 05 05:23PM -0400

Derald <derald@invalid.net>: May 05 10:27AM -0400


><sigh> even the trolls are stupid these days.
H, sometimes, I really miss Soul Doctor and Full Metal Grotus. It'll
never be the same.
--
D
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Tuesday, May 2, 2017

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hchickpea@hotmail.com: May 01 09:45PM -0500

>lifetime warranty expires exactly three years after your date of
>purchase. At that time, someone will be sent to your home and they will
>kill you. This will ensure we fulfilled our LIFETIME WARRANTY.
 
 
Whatever. The cheaper alternative is to go out of business and start a new
company. If you want to be stupid and cost inefficient, whatever. Just watch
out for the dogs and claymores.
 
<sigh> even the trolls are stupid these days.
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elihonor173@gmail.com: Apr 30 09:57PM -0700

> lifetime warranty expires exactly three years after your date of
> purchase. At that time, someone will be sent to your home and they will
> kill you. This will ensure we fulfilled our LIFETIME WARRANTY.
 
Uh
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