Friday, May 12, 2017

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 2 topics

KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: May 12 05:44PM

I've been getting calls, which hang up on my answering machine message, for
years now from the same source. You'd think they'd take a hint by now.
Evidently these calls come from a country (602 area code IIRC) where phone
calls are sold wholesale. There's a couple of other numbers that keep
calling as well.
 
Maybe they get paid for dialing the calls, not making sales? Or both?
 
Do cell phone users hve this problem? No answering machine to screen calls?
I have a cell but it's normally turned off. I only use it in emergencies
when my landline isn't working or I'm not at home and need to make a call.
I almost never see a missed call listed and those are not telemarketing
calls.
 
 
--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
BigDog811 <bigdog811@gmail.com>: May 12 12:47PM -0700

On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 1:44:54 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
> calls.
 
> --
> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
 
Auto-dialers fishing for live numbers answered by people or machines that are then sold to various telemarketers, fund raisers, politicians, and other scam artists.
 
My cell phone is used exactly like yours and I too rarely find a missed call not from someone I know. I never give that number to anyone. Only immediate family and very few close friends have it. Not sure why cell numbers aren't targeted more, but I'm not complaining.
hchickpea@hotmail.com: May 12 07:41PM -0500

>I either ignore calls from numbers I don't know or let it ring many
>times before answering. Trolls and autodialers rarely let a phone ring
>more than 4 times,or so it seems.
 
My home phone is a VOIP over satellite, and I've had only five TM calls since
the beginning of the year, with two of those being the same charity
telemarketer. When I had a landline with AT&T there were often days with
multiple TM calls.
 
Follow the money. The telcoms get a minor income (some hundreth or thousandth
of a cent) every time ANY call uses the system. WIth an excess of capability,
there is no incentive to curb TM calls, even if it would be an easy find and
fix. With the VOIP using valuable satellite time, there is a cost to the
provider when these calls tie up the links.
Derald <derald@invalid.net>: May 12 05:14PM -0400

>when my landline isn't working or I'm not at home and need to make a call.
>I almost never see a missed call listed and those are not telemarketing
>calls.
I do, sort of. My household has two cell phones. One is the
"home" phone and is a ported landline number of ± 20-year's duration.
For 19 of those years, I paid for a "unpublished" number. It gets no
spurious calls. Another, "my" cell phone has been active for eleven
years and ported across two "virtual network" providers that resell
Verizon. It is off most of the time but, if left on for any length of
time, it is far more likely to receive bs calls, and those from either
of two numbers. I have messaging, data, and voice mail disabled on both
numbers by the provider. That number has narrow distribution and an
incoming call from a number not on its contact list is by definition bs.
I either ignore calls from numbers I don't know or let it ring many
times before answering. Trolls and autodialers rarely let a phone ring
more than 4 times,or so it seems.
--
Derald
—"...the only traits that are passed down in your family are perversity,
ego-centrism, laziness and sociopathic tendencies."
--Lynn Barton, Filedheacht Music School, East Bridgewater, MA 2016
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