Frugal Living: Feb 20, 2008

Wednesday, February 20, 2008

24 new messages in 10 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Question on potentially sediment-clogged dishwasher (how to diagnose &
repair)?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ab38615660f0cdb0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 8:23 am
From: "Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator"

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:48:36 GMT, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Tub is no different than the sink.
>> It sure looks different. There's no screen. Will look more.
> If you mean there is no screen in the aerator, the problem is in the
> cartridge. Remove the cartridge and clean it out.

Hi Edwin,

The tub seems different in that there is nothing to take apart on the
nozzle part that spits out the water. I don't feel a screen in that nozzle
like I did the faucets.

Here is the clogged tub outlet with the water on "full blast" which is
barely more than a trickle after the water heater replacement:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2279157305/

Here is the tub with the water on the full close position; I don't see what
to remove to find a "filter screen"?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2279157299/

I'm sorry for being confused but can you point to what in this picture,
showing the water at the most I can get out now (which is vastly less than
the day before the water heater was replaced) I should open up to clean out
the sediment?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2279157295/

Am I looking in the wrong place?

Donna

PS I'm confused if I should post to this thread or to the long thread so
I'll try to keep an eye on both!

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TOPIC: Quick basic advice on a dripping gas 40-gal hot-water heater
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e565eaf98e0e70b6?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 7:37 am
From: "Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator"

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:18:06 -0800 (PST), hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> I just installed a couple dishwashers, one for us and one for a
> friend, and one for a friend, no screen washers,,,,,,,,,

Hi Hallerb,
I'm sorry I didn't see this earlier. I'm so confused with this discussion
as to where to post.

I hope others can keep up as I read *everything* everyone says and try to
answser the questions so I can help myself and others can follow after
we're done so the advice is never wasted.

I took a bunch of pics of the dishwasher today and put them here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603947125744/

(Flicker apparently allows only 3 sets so I have to mix the dishwasher clog
with the tub clog which is, in a way, the same problem as it happened after
the water heater replacement).

I did do research on clogged dishwashers but it's hard to find anything
specific to the GE Nautilus.

This article says "unscrew the water inlet hose" to remove sediment:
http://www.rusticgirls.com/appliances/dishwasher-not-filling.html

This one says "debris" could be caught in the "spray arm":
http://www.mrappliance.com/expert/manual/dishwashers.aspx

This one again points to the "filter" and "solonoid":
http://www.home-appliance-kitchen-aids.com/dishwashers.html

This one suggests it might be the "float" that's clogged:
http://www.applianceandair.com/Dishwasher/dishwasher.html#nofill

I think what I'll do later today (I have the grandkids again) is take apart
the inlet line and the solonoid line if I can.

If I see sand in there, I'll know it's the problem!
Any other suggestions?

Donna

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 8:50 am
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)

In article <eSXuj.11877$Ch6.6279@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>, "Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator" <donna.ohl@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:48:20 GMT, James Sweet wrote:
>> Hey that looks identical to the one I just yanked out of my place
>> When you remove the kick plate, you'll find adjustable screw feet
>> The solenoid valve will be right up front on the left side, mine is blue.
>
>Hi James,
>
>You gave me the courage to tackle this maybe-clogged dishwasher:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603947125744/
>
>Here's a pic, taken just now, with the "kick plate" removed:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2279869546/
>
>Are you suggesting I can remove that blue "solonoid" on the left side with
>the brass pipe in it and that might be what's probably clogged?
>
>Donna
>

I might first think about using a good shop vac and start sucking at the feed
from the water heater or main entrance. open all taps, and of course close
main valve. I think the line would have to reseparated at the tank. The
dishwasher fill would have to be activated to open valve.

greg

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 8:51 am
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)

In article <fphlo3$3lt$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote:
>In article <eSXuj.11877$Ch6.6279@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>, "Donna Ohl, Grady
> Volunteer Coordinator" <donna.ohl@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:48:20 GMT, James Sweet wrote:
>>> Hey that looks identical to the one I just yanked out of my place
>>> When you remove the kick plate, you'll find adjustable screw feet
>>> The solenoid valve will be right up front on the left side, mine is blue.
>>
>>Hi James,
>>
>>You gave me the courage to tackle this maybe-clogged dishwasher:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603947125744/
>>
>>Here's a pic, taken just now, with the "kick plate" removed:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2279869546/
>>
>>Are you suggesting I can remove that blue "solonoid" on the left side with
>>the brass pipe in it and that might be what's probably clogged?
>>
>>Donna
>>
>
>I might first think about using a good shop vac and start sucking at the feed
>from the water heater or main entrance. open all taps, and of course close
>main valve. I think the line would have to reseparated at the tank. The
>dishwasher fill would have to be activated to open valve.
>
>??
>
>greg

Do one tap at a time, or valve.

greg

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 9:05 am
From: "Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator"

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:51:51 GMT, GregS wrote:
>>I might first think about using a good shop vac and start sucking at the feed
>>from the water heater or main entrance.

Hi GregS,
Unfortunately, we do not have a "shop vac". My vacuum cleaner isn't likely
to do the job either ...

I will try tonight to remove the inlet water line if I can find where it
goes and to remove the solonoid to see if either have a screen.

If it's not that, then I'll look at the "float" and the "nozzle" wherever
they are, but first I'll try to see if it's the blue solonoid or the hidden
inlet screen if there is any.

Donna

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 3:45 pm
From: "hallerb@aol.com"

On Feb 20, 12:05�pm, "Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator"
<donna....@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:51:51 GMT, GregS wrote:
> >>I might first think about using a good shop vac and start sucking at the feed
> >>from the water heater or main entrance.
>
> Hi GregS,
> Unfortunately, we do not have a "shop vac". My vacuum cleaner isn't likely
> to do the job either ...
>
> I will try tonight to remove the inlet water line if I can find where it
> goes and to remove the solonoid to see if either have a screen.
>
> If it's not that, then I'll look at the "float" and the "nozzle" wherever
> they are, but first I'll try to see if it's the blue solonoid or the hidden
> inlet screen if there is any.
>
> Donna

clog can be anywhere and is likely multiple locations.......

good luck and replace you galvanized ASAP the rough interior surface
of galvanized pipe leads to gunk accumulating and breaking lose
causing clogs of all types.

soleanoid valves are easy to replace but expensive

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TOPIC: -►Welfare babies, greasy diners and other tidbits
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ee55fe57a3a60bfb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 8:38 am
From: Emerson Wainwright

-►Welfare babies, greasy diners and other tidbits

Yes it's Emerson and yes I'm back to express my opinions on several
hot topics germane to the here and now. First, nigs on welfare.
Because these women can't seem to understand the concept of using
birth control and because they appear all too eager to spread their
legs for any Tom, Dick or Demetrius, our government is left footing
the bill for the resulting future car thieves. A solution? Cut off all
benefits after 1 year. Educate the ones who want it so they can find a
real job and above all, keep up with current affairs in our nation's
welfare program. There is no shortage of liberal ass polyps in suits
out there lobbying for even more rights for these lazy sloths.

Next up, greasy diners. I've eaten at my fair share of them while out
on the road and for the most part, they offer a pretty good selection
of Americana food however it was my recent misfortune to run across a
diner named "Juanito's", a former 1950's shotgun style home converted
into a Mexican diner. "I'll take the enchilada special" sez I to my
clearly brain dead waiter. What the heck. I'll try it and see how they
are. Bad move. Within 30 minutes of ingestion, I found myself cutting
high- pitched farts with a serious side affect. They were wet ones. I
was given a most unwelcome squishy reminder of my meal when I rose
from my booth to pay the little mongrel behind the counter and walk
out to my car. I nigger rigged a man kotex out of kleenex and pushed
it between my ass cheeks to sop up the remnants of those brown blasts.
The moral of the story? Be ready for gastric distress when trying out
someplace new, especially if the owners don't have a green-card.

I said it, you read it and I remain....

Emerson Wainwright

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TOPIC: Q: Boiling Water-nuke or kettle?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d1b6d83a8392d12d?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 9:05 am
From: Jeff

Al Bundy wrote:
> On Feb 19, 1:00 am, PaPaPeng <PaPaP...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I drink a popular Oriental beverage that has instant coffee, sugar and
>> a whitener-thickener in a pack. I heat up a mug of hot water in the
>> microwave or I heat up two cups in a kettle, two cups because I need
>> to submerge the element. Somehow I get the feeling that the microwave
>> uses more energy/watts. Any idea if this is so?
>
> The electric kettle is much closer to 100% efficient than the
> microwave, but you are heating twice as much water. Therefore, the
> microwave turns out to be cheaper in the end. Neither cost very much.
> The microwave would be less than 1¢ for the three minutes to boil a
> cup. Amusing perhaps to consider, but not worth doing anything about.

That sounds right to me. If you really want to frugal, get an
immersion heater as you would be close to 100%.

A pound of water (16 oz) will take 140 BTUs to raise it's temp from 60F
to 200F, about .04 kWhr. Even at 25 cents/kWhr that is just 1 cent.

Jeff

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 9:51 am
From: Seerialmom

On Feb 19, 6:16 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> PaPaPeng wrote:
>
> > I drink a popular Oriental beverage that has instant coffee, sugar and
> > a whitener-thickener in a pack. I heat up a mug of hot water in the
> > microwave or I heat up two cups in a kettle, two cups because I need
> > to submerge the element. Somehow I get the feeling that the microwave
> > uses more energy/watts. Any idea if this is so?
>
> Speaking of which, does anyone know if they still sell those immersion
> heaters (the kind that are just a coil, a cord, and a plug) that you
> could put in a cup of water to boil it? They were popular in the 1960s
> and 1970s, but I can't recall seeing them for a while.
>
> --
> Evelyn C. Leeper
> Heretic: someone who disagrees with you about
> something neither of you knows anything about.

If you were to find them I'd think they'd be in older hardware stores
or garage sales.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 2:57 pm
From: The Real Bev

Jeff wrote:

> That sounds right to me. If you really want to frugal, get an
> immersion heater as you would be close to 100%.

I had one of those that plugged into the cigarette lighter hole. It
corroded and died within weeks when I actually started using it on a
trip. Moreover, the cord was so much heavier than the unit itself that
the cord knocked the [filled] cup over unless you held onto it.

> A pound of water (16 oz) will take 140 BTUs to raise it's temp from 60F
> to 200F, about .04 kWhr. Even at 25 cents/kWhr that is just 1 cent.

--
Cheers, Bev
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Guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.

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TOPIC: HD-TV converter box rip-off ....
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4a9061c13abe5727?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 9:07 am
From: "Evelyn C. Leeper"

Winston_Smith wrote:
>
> Pretty much says on their website. Basically you have to have no
> access to broadcast TV except conventional analog broadcast (which is
> ending). If you have cable, satellite, other or if you have a TV that
> can get the over the air broadcasts you are ineligible.

So if one has cable, one is obliged to buy/rent a cable box on one's own?

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
Heretic: someone who disagrees with you about
something neither of you knows anything about.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 9:40 am
From: Seerialmom

On Feb 19, 11:52 pm, Anthony Matonak
<anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> Ralph wrote:
> > I bought this Microsoft keyboard with a rebate. Carefully read the
> > instructions and filled out the rebate form. Sent it in with a copy of
> > the recept and top of box with the barcode (proof of purchase) like it
> > said. Got a letter back from Microsoft saying I hadn't properly
> > satisified all the conditions of the rebate without telling me what I
> > did wrong or sending anything back. Total bullshit. They ripped me off.
>
> You could try a class action lawsuit with all the other people that
> Microsoft has ripped off. It'll take ten years and cost you all the
> money you have and when you win, you'll get a coupon for a discount
> on the retail price of a Microsoft product. :)
>
> Anthony
> --
> Sometimes the bad guys win.

Actually you get a rebate based on how many MS products (qualifying)
you purchased during a time frame (too late to apply now)...and the
rebate can be used on MS or non-MS products including software, new
PC's or peripherals. I still need to send in my $78 rebate once I
decide which "receipt" to use; and those receipts can be from a few
years ago up to about 2010 as I recall. Of course this is just the
California rebate/class action lawsuit; not sure about other states
lawsuits/rebates.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 10:25 am
From: Brian Elfert

"Evelyn C. Leeper" <eleeper@optonline.net> writes:

>Winston_Smith wrote:
>>
>> Pretty much says on their website. Basically you have to have no
>> access to broadcast TV except conventional analog broadcast (which is
>> ending). If you have cable, satellite, other or if you have a TV that
>> can get the over the air broadcasts you are ineligible.

>So if one has cable, one is obliged to buy/rent a cable box on one's own?

There should be no change to your cable service. If your cable company
chooses to go to all digital service it has nothing to do with the FCC
mandating broadcasters change to digital.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 10:29 am
From: Cindy Hamilton

On Feb 20, 12:07 pm, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> Winston_Smith wrote:
>
> > Pretty much says on their website. Basically you have to have no
> > access to broadcast TV except conventional analog broadcast (which is
> > ending). If you have cable, satellite, other or if you have a TV that
> > can get the over the air broadcasts you are ineligible.
>
> So if one has cable, one is obliged to buy/rent a cable box on one's own?

It would be technically feasible for your cable provide to convert the
digital
signal to analog prior to sending it down the cable to your house.
However,
they will probably see this as an opportunity to extract more money
from
their customers and require the purchase/rental of a converter.

Cindy Hamilton

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 10:47 am
From: Cheapo Groovo

In article <cac35089-0f4b-4624-b63e-
fd926e3cfdcf@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, seerialmom@yahoo.com says...
> On Feb 19, 11:52 pm, Anthony Matonak
> <anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> > Ralph wrote:
> > > I bought this Microsoft keyboard with a rebate. Carefully read the
> > > instructions and filled out the rebate form. Sent it in with a copy of
> > > the recept and top of box with the barcode (proof of purchase) like it
> > > said. Got a letter back from Microsoft saying I hadn't properly
> > > satisified all the conditions of the rebate without telling me what I
> > > did wrong or sending anything back. Total bullshit. They ripped me off.
> >
> > You could try a class action lawsuit with all the other people that
> > Microsoft has ripped off. It'll take ten years and cost you all the
> > money you have and when you win, you'll get a coupon for a discount
> > on the retail price of a Microsoft product. :)
> >
Don't buy Microsoft products. The geeks have written all the free
software you need. Also, computer hardware all comes from China - so you
don't need a name brand mouse, keyboard, etc.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 2:48 pm
From: The Real Bev

Seerialmom wrote:

> On Feb 19, 11:52 pm, Anthony Matonak
> <anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> Ralph wrote:
>> > I bought this Microsoft keyboard with a rebate. Carefully read the
>> > instructions and filled out the rebate form. Sent it in with a copy of
>> > the recept and top of box with the barcode (proof of purchase) like it
>> > said. Got a letter back from Microsoft saying I hadn't properly
>> > satisified all the conditions of the rebate without telling me what I
>> > did wrong or sending anything back. Total bullshit. They ripped me off.

Did you telephone? Did you email? I wouldn't put it past the
M$hitheads to deny everything and cave in as soon as somebody complains.
Give it a shot.

>> You could try a class action lawsuit with all the other people that
>> Microsoft has ripped off. It'll take ten years and cost you all the
>> money you have and when you win, you'll get a coupon for a discount
>> on the retail price of a Microsoft product. :)
>>
>> Anthony
>> --
>> Sometimes the bad guys win.

Yeah, but you gotta at least put up a good fight.

> Actually you get a rebate based on how many MS products (qualifying)
> you purchased during a time frame (too late to apply now)...and the
> rebate can be used on MS or non-MS products including software, new
> PC's or peripherals. I still need to send in my $78 rebate once I
> decide which "receipt" to use; and those receipts can be from a few
> years ago up to about 2010 as I recall. Of course this is just the
> California rebate/class action lawsuit; not sure about other states
> lawsuits/rebates.

Ultimately I received a real check, which I cashed. I didn't need to
send in no steenkin' receipts, they took my word for it. People may
make fun of California, but at least we didn't bend over and smile.

--
Cheers, Bev
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I didn't break it! It was doing that before I broke it... er...

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 2:52 pm
From: The Real Bev

Jeff wrote:

> A wrote:
>>
>> You know these set top boxes coming out soon so you can get HDTV to come
>> through your old regular TV? (because analog transmission is ordered by
>> the govt to stop next February?).
>>
>> So, I tried to use their website to "apply for" those coupons worth $40.
>
> Call it a blessing in disguise.
>
> Have you seen any of these converter boxes in the stores?

Best Buy has its own Insignia brand boxes for either $50 or $60.

> If I were you, I'd wait until late, remember the coupons expire in 3
> month. The variety and prices will both be much lower then.
>
> You have until next February, Also, go check out antennaweb.org to see
> what kind of antenna you will need.

--
Cheers, Bev
======================================================
Guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.

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TOPIC: Red Light Cameras- Guilty even when innocent
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 10:49 am
From: Cheapo Groovo

This guy proved his case, yet the state of Georgia doesn't care.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmVSbfvaqVw

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 12:25 pm
From: jason.usenet4@gmail.com

On Feb 20, 10:49 am, Cheapo Groovo <c...@nospam.com> wrote:
> This guy proved his case, yet the state of Georgia doesn't care.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmVSbfvaqVw

It might be time to stop driving

jason.usenet4@gmail.com

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TOPIC: Frugal Way to Clone a Website
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 12:47 pm
From: mwmiller314@gmail.com

Is there a way to clone a website feature for feature, like a software
package or something? for example an ecommerce site, or a community
message board site. ideally it would be painfree and simple

Any help appreciated,
Matt

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 2:33 pm
From: George

mwmiller314@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a way to clone a website feature for feature, like a software
> package or something? for example an ecommerce site, or a community
> message board site. ideally it would be painfree and simple
>
> Any help appreciated,
> Matt

The easiest thing to do is just to log into your site and do a backup
using whatever management utility is available.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: Don't pay for ring tones etc.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 20 2008 3:10 pm
From: imascot

"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:wn4uj.372$kI4.286@trnddc05:

>
> "Seerialmom" <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1189801334.810423.255950@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 14, 7:56 am, George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote:
>>> Of course you have to give them your phone number and the the
>>> contact
>>> info is limited to a form that you send to them.
>>
>> Even more likely that was a spam...since the newer phones let you
>> transfer MP3's in to use as ring tones, anyway...no website or
>> special software needed.
>
> not true. dh's phone is with verizon, and the only way to get a
> ringtone is from verizon. he can upload mp3s all day, but can't use
> them as a ringtone.
>
>

This might work:

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* Quick basic advice on a dripping gas 40-gal hot-water heater - 3 messages, 2
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* Question on potentially sediment-clogged dishwasher (how to diagnose &
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* HD-TV converter box rip-off .... - 1 messages, 1 author
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 19 2008 11:05 pm
From: "Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator"

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:37:11 +1100, Only Just wrote:
> Any good installation of an appliance like a washing machine, dishwasher etc
> should have a filter screen / rubber washer fitted to the hose fitting

I looked underneath today. There is a hose going to the garbage disposal
and another hose going to the faucet. There is a wire going to an
electrical outlet. I'll look more later this week as I had to visit my
grandchildren tonight and didn't get back home till late.

Here is what the dishwasher looks like:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2279233722/

When I take the kick plate off, I'll snap a picture and show you what that
"solonoid" looks like.

Donna

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 19 2008 11:07 pm
From: "Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator"

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:52:48 -0800 (PST), N8N wrote:
> I still err on the side of too much PM because

PM?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 19 2008 11:48 pm
From: "James Sweet"

>
> I looked underneath today. There is a hose going to the garbage disposal
> and another hose going to the faucet. There is a wire going to an
> electrical outlet. I'll look more later this week as I had to visit my
> grandchildren tonight and didn't get back home till late.
>
> Here is what the dishwasher looks like:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2279233722/
>
> When I take the kick plate off, I'll snap a picture and show you what that
> "solonoid" looks like.
>
> Donna

Hey that looks identical to the one I just yanked out of my place, the motor
died and the rest was in pretty sad shape, but the new one is very similar
and works great. At any rate I'm familiar with the innards. When you remove
the kick plate, you'll find adjustable screw feet and you should be able to
lower it down enough to get it to fit under the counter lip. The solenoid
valve will be right up front on the left side, mine is blue.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 19 2008 11:09 pm
From: "Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator"

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:25:50 GMT, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> Tub is no different than the sink.

It sure looks different. There's no screen. Will look more.

> Dishwasher may be more difficult.

Will take it apart and post pictures.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 19 2008 11:52 pm
From: Anthony Matonak

Ralph wrote:
> I bought this Microsoft keyboard with a rebate. Carefully read the
> instructions and filled out the rebate form. Sent it in with a copy of
> the recept and top of box with the barcode (proof of purchase) like it
> said. Got a letter back from Microsoft saying I hadn't properly
> satisified all the conditions of the rebate without telling me what I
> did wrong or sending anything back. Total bullshit. They ripped me off.

You could try a class action lawsuit with all the other people that
Microsoft has ripped off. It'll take ten years and cost you all the
money you have and when you win, you'll get a coupon for a discount
on the retail price of a Microsoft product. :)

Anthony
--
Sometimes the bad guys win.

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