Frugal Living: Dec 4, 2010

Saturday, December 4, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 7 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Bicycle Urban Warfare - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9dc74b0819431b34?hl=en
* Republicans and others are trying to slow you down - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d39ef785705ca446?hl=en
* Would you like to have a pet God? - 7 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ea04fc534443a2fe?hl=en
* The 'Trickle Down' Lie-on - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5aae17a1f131e41d?hl=en
* paypal payment wholesale SHOES(ugg boots timberland boots,munich shoes,nike,
adidas,lv.gucci,chanel,prada,polo,d&g,dior,and so on ) - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/fcba7b0cef2074d4?hl=en
* wholesale cheap discount adidas shoes, china nike shoes, jordan shoes. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/10e5ef0f0bec5d2b?hl=en
* HOT ACTRESS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0389090c94362d8c?hl=en

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TOPIC: Bicycle Urban Warfare
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9dc74b0819431b34?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 12:03 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 2, 11:22 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 9:33 pm, "Mike Painter" <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
> > wrote:
> > <snip>
>
> > > It's really a war for no clear cause --at least they don't have a
> > > clue.
>
> > "They" being the operative word here. Anyone that drives in a college town
> > has had several near misses as the idiots on bicycles cut across lanes with
> > no warnings, ignore stop signs and lights, move into a lane to avoid a grate
> > while ignoring what may be behind them, or just can't stop.
>
> > My last near miss happened when a cyclist on a bike lane with several bikes
> > stopped in front of him ran out into the lane and came within a foot of
> > hitting the side of my car.
>
> > And of course,at night, it is best to wear dark clothes and drive without
> > lights.
>
> 9/10 of all auto-bike accidents are the cyclist's fault. Almost all
> of those
> could have been prevented by the cyclist operating the bike
> predictably --
> by following the same rules motorists do, the same rules everyone
> learned
> in driver's ed.

Obviously cyclists don't have many rules because the system doesn't
care to educate them. To begin they should be issued tickets for stuff
like RIDING ON SIDEWALKS or RIDING WITHOUT LIGHTS at night.

Actually those monkeys have little to do with cyclists, and more to do
with their cousins in circuses.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 3:11 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"TibetanMonkey,
[...]
> Obviously cyclists don't have many rules because the system doesn't
> care to educate them. To begin they should be issued tickets for stuff
> like RIDING ON SIDEWALKS or RIDING WITHOUT LIGHTS at night.
>
> Actually those monkeys have little to do with cyclists, and more to do
> with their cousins in circuses.

You've got shit for brains all right. Now what else is new?

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 6:57 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 3, 7:01 am, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu 12/2/10 22:22, Father Haskell wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 2, 9:33 pm, "Mike Painter"<md.pain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher
> >> wrote:
> >> <snip>
>
> >>> It's really a war for no clear cause --at least they don't have a
> >>> clue.
>
> >> "They" being the operative word here. Anyone that drives in a college town
> >> has had several near misses as the idiots on bicycles cut across lanes with
> >> no warnings, ignore stop signs and lights, move into a lane to avoid a grate
> >> while ignoring what may be behind them, or just can't stop.
>
> >> My last near miss happened when a cyclist on a bike lane with several bikes
> >> stopped in front of him ran out into the lane and came within a foot of
> >> hitting the side of my car.
>
> >> And of course,at night, it is best to wear dark clothes and drive without
> >> lights.
>
> > 9/10 of all auto-bike accidents are the cyclist's fault. Almost all
> > of those
> > could have been prevented by the cyclist operating the bike
> > predictably --
> > by following the same rules motorists do, the same rules everyone
> > learned
> > in driver's ed.
>
> I'd be interested in seeing a study confirming your 9/10 ratio.
>
> I agree that cyclists should follow the rules of the road making sure to
> make clear their intentions using accepted signals. That, however, is
> not enough. Motorists who collide with cyclists commonly lament that
> they didn't see the cyclist.
>
> Some studies have shown that motorists often fail to 'see' cyclists and
> motorcyclists be cause those vehicles do not pose a threat to the
> motorist. Most drivers are more careful around larger and more
> threatening vehicles.
>
> My personal, admittedly subjective, experience is that I had fewer near
> misses after I began flying an American flag from my motorcycle's sissy
> bar. Near misses were further reduced when I installed a very loud air
> horn on my bike. Both the flag and my occasional use of the horn helped
> to ensure that I was not invisible to other motorists.
>
> Here's what popped up first when I Googled 'motorists don't see cyclists.'
>
> http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/drivers-at-fault-in-majority-of...
>
> The second Google hit linked to this list of common sense safety tips
> for cyclists.
>
> http://bicyclesafe.com/

That study is truly awesome and I always thought of doing that
experiment myself which now would be redundant. So here it is...

Drivers at fault in majority of cycling accidents
By BikeRadar

Commuters using helmet cams have helped researchers understand the
causes of cycling accidents in Melbourne, Australia

New research from Australia* has shed light on the causes of
collisions and near misses involving cycle commuters. 13 adult
cyclists in Melbourne were given helmet-mounted video cameras and
asked to film 12 hours of commuting each over a four-week period.

In total, 127 hours and 38 minutes of usable footage was obtained. 54
'events' were captured on film – two collisions, six near-collisions
(where rapid evasive action by the cyclist was needed) and 46 other
incidents (where some collision avoidance was required).

The cameras also recorded the road position and behaviour of the
cyclists – including head checks, reactions and manoeuvres. The aim
was to identify risk factors for both cyclists and motorists.

***

You accurately pinpoint the factor that make the driver ignore the
cyclists. Do the elephant looks where he steps?

My solution is to GIVE THE LANE to the cyclists after some
certification and crack down on those people complain about. Cars must
completely leave the lane to avoid accidents and conflict. "Peace in
the jungle."

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 7:01 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

That study is truly awesome and I always thought of doing that
experiment myself which now would be redundant. So here it is...

Drivers at fault in majority of cycling accidents
By BikeRadar

Commuters using helmet cams have helped researchers understand the
causes of cycling accidents in Melbourne, Australia

The cameras also recorded the road position and behaviour of the
cyclists – including head checks, reactions and manoeuvres. The aim
was to identify risk factors for both cyclists and motorists.

***

You accurately pinpoint the factor that make the driver ignore the
cyclists. Do the elephant looks where he steps?

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 8:16 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

Is everybody here clear of what Urban Warfare means? I know from the
perspective of the driver it looks insignificant, but from the
viewpoint of the cyclist in the middle of it it sounds mighty scary.
Death can come swiftly from everywhere, and the grinding war goes on.

This is a good clip of urban warfare. I can't understand a word they
are saying, but there's no need...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZoy6wRJ-pw&playnext=1&list=PLD74599AE920BDCAF&index=16

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TOPIC: Republicans and others are trying to slow you down
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d39ef785705ca446?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 12:07 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 3, 12:57 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Forrest Hodge" <f...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:id9e82$9md$2@news.eternal-september.org...> On 12/2/2010 6:03 PM, T m Sherm n _ > wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> Forrest Hodge wrote:
> >>> You are correct, I'm not an environmentalist. I understand some people
> >>> are and they are entitled to their opinions, just as I am entitled to
> >>> mine. If you choose to ride a bike and or partake in public transit,
> >>> that's fine. I prefer the convenience and freedom the automobile offers.
> >>> For reasons I've already explained, in many areas, the bicycle is simply
> >>> not practical as the primary mode of transportation, nor are there any
> >>> public transportation options either. Hence the car the logical choice.
>
> >> If your actions harm others, they are more than just "opinions".
>
> > How is my driving of a car harming others exactly?
>
> Forrest, when you talk to TM, you are talking to the village simpleton. If
> you continue to do it, you will discover that salient fact. He has shit for
> brains and has hardly ever said anything that makes any sense. In short, he
> is a blithering idiot.

You are the best in the circus...

http://www.scaryforkids.com/pics/evil-clown-costume.jpg

A clown in old age is twice as sad.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 9:03 am
From: Opus

On Dec 2, 6:39 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>snip<
> How is my driving of a car harming others exactly?

geez, you want a list?

In the DFW Metroplex 1/3 of all air pollution comes from private motor
vehicle exhaust, a little less than 1/3 comes from other mobile
sources, and a little less than 1/3 comes from stationary industrial
sources. About 2% comes from natural sources that would not be a
problem without the anthropogenic sources. Even as we lower the amount
of pollution in the air we chase a moving target because it has been
discovered the damage caused to people by chronic exposure to
pollution gets worse even as the levels of pollution go down. Even as
smoking rates plummet lung disease of all kinds continues to get worse
as a result of pollution. And that doesn't even include the damage to
water supplies from finding and refining fossil fuels, the damage to
the soil from refining fossil fuels, the damage to groundwater
supplies from runoff from paved roads, the loss of CO2 sinks from
covering soil with paving, the conversion of farmland to housing
because providing parking for our cars takes up so much space that we
have to move into the country to find space to build.

How's that for starters? And keep in mind I'm saying this as a former
member of the SCCA and ISCA, I used to race sports cars and build
customs. I LIKE cars and I'm saying this.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 9:26 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 3, 12:03 pm, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 6:39 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >snip<
> > How is my driving of a car harming others exactly?
>
> geez, you want a list?
>
> In the DFW Metroplex 1/3 of all air pollution comes from private motor
> vehicle exhaust, a little less than 1/3 comes from other mobile
> sources, and a little less than 1/3 comes from stationary industrial
> sources. About 2% comes from natural sources that would not be a
> problem without the anthropogenic sources. Even as we lower the amount
> of pollution in the air we chase a moving target because it has been
> discovered the damage caused to people by chronic exposure to
> pollution gets worse even as the levels of pollution go down. Even as
> smoking rates plummet lung disease of all kinds continues to get worse
> as a result of pollution. And that doesn't even include the damage to
> water supplies from finding and refining fossil fuels, the damage to
> the soil from refining fossil fuels, the damage to groundwater
> supplies from runoff from paved roads, the loss of CO2 sinks from
> covering soil with paving, the conversion of farmland to housing
> because providing parking for our cars takes up so much space that we
> have to move into the country to find space to build.
>
> How's that for starters? And keep in mind I'm saying this as a former
> member of the SCCA and ISCA, I used to race sports cars and build
> customs. I LIKE cars and I'm saying this.

The late Paul Newman was into both RACING CARS and ENVIRONMENTALISM...
What they are basically proposing --his daughter too-- is that we use
more alternative transportation --public transportation or bicycles--
and leave the driving for Sundays or something.

I say this much, BUY LOCALLY BIKE LOCALLY to build COMMUNITY --not
Gated Community. ;)

http://www.zazzle.com/community_tshirt-235961473793440879

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 7:25 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 12/2/2010 10:23 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
backyard philosopher wrote:
> On Dec 1, 10:29 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/1/2010 5:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>>
>>
>>
>> backyard philosopher wrote:
>>> On Dec 1, 4:53 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 12/1/2010 7:28 AM, Opus wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Nov 30, 8:02 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> snip<
>>>>>>>>>> My 400 HP sport/muscle car isn't envious of a folding bicycle.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, some day I invite to a Triathlon where one of the events is to
>>>>>>>>> take the vehicle in the subway.
>>
>>>>>>>> No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
>>>>>>>> transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.
>>
>>>>>>> Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
>>>>>>> necessary for shitheads like you remains available.
>>
>>>>>> Shitheads like me? Care to elaborate or is your argument simply limited
>>>>>> to name calling?
>>
>>>>> People that drive vehicles with a decimal order of magnitude more
>>>>> power than they need to move their butts with fossil fuels, because
>>>>> they haven't learned to use public transportation and refuse to ride a
>>>>> bicycle to move their butts using their butts. Is that elaborate
>>>>> enough for you?
>>
>>>>> And just to be precise, the war in Iraq cost a billion dollars a DAY
>>>>> for 6 years, do the math. That doesn't even begin to tackle the cost
>>>>> of the war in Afghanistan, and both of those wars were "off-budget"
>>>>> items during the Bush administration, roughly $3 trillion added to the
>>>>> deficit that wasn't even counted until 2008.
>>
>>>> Because public transportation is everywhere, right. Where I live there
>>>> are no buses, no subways, no bike lanes. It would suicidal and
>>>> inefficient time-wise to bike to work. So consequently I drive
>>>> everywhere, and I might as well enjoy myself when I do it. If you really
>>>> want to get into semantics, it could be considered decedent and
>>>> unnecessary to ride a bike with 20 in or larger wheels or more than one
>>>> gear, because everyone should be able to peddle a fixed gear bike up a
>>>> steep hill and if you can't you're a "shithead".
>>
>>> Hey, there are no sidewalks either in most suburbs made for the SUV
>>> so... what do we do, drive an SUV?
>>
>>> Now one question, HOW CAN YOU ENJOY DRIVING A SPORTS CAR IN AMERICA?
>>> So many vigilantes blocking the road and so much predation in speeding
>>> tickets that you feel like driving is for dummies.
>>
>>> I drive a car for dummies, some older Lexus....
>>
>>> (But Opus is right in pointing that out: the bicycle is the best
>>> choice whenever possible)
>>
>> If you live in suburbs and choose to ride a bike, that's your decision.
>> You can move to the city and live in a more bike friendly place. There
>> are trade offs to living an any given area.
>
> The city is NOT a more bike friendly place. In the city you find the
> monkeys riding on sidewalks... You call that friendly?
>
>>
>> How can I drive driving a sports car? Easy, back country roads and a
>> police force that concerns itself more with keeping violent offenders
>> off the streets more so that it does with the occasional hooning.
>
> Sorry, you can have a Mazda Miata to have fun and save a lot of gas.

"The city is NOT a more bike friendly place. In the city you find the
monkeys riding on sidewalks... You call that friendly?"

I would think that with the much lower prevailing speeds and far more
traffic lights and such that riding the in the city would lend itself to
bike riding better. The difference in speeds between cars and bikes
isn't as much, and you usually can't go more than a 1/4 mile without
hitting red light.

"Sorry, you can have a Mazda Miata to have fun and save a lot of gas."

I also have 1974 Triumph TR6, a proper roadster. The Miata is just a
knock off, sure it's a nice car to drive, but it has none of the soul
and personality of the real deal. For what it's worth, the TR6 gets
about the same mileage as the 400 HP Mustang. Naturally, given the
questionable reliability of the Triumph, it's only driven in the spring
and summer, never at night, and never more than 20 miles or so from
home. It's more of a hobby than a car if I'm honest.

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TOPIC: Would you like to have a pet God?
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 12:53 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

(Hey, we can not always be serious and talk about monkeys and bananas.
This time is play time. It's like God throws a ball at you and you
catch it... This is as well a "low ball" for a certain Ed)

Notice God is dog spelled backwards, and the proposition starts to
make sense to you.

A pet God will allow to be a substitute of God that you can actually
relate to and talk to, even if he only barks back at you.

In a reversal of roles, the pet God will be loyal to you, so you know
how important that is in the Kingdom of the Lord. You are to God what
the pet God to you, so you'll feel like drooling at Heaven.

In other words, having a pet God prepares for the real thing. Now the
question is chihuahua or german shepherd?

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== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 3:07 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a76e2c8e-7325-43e0-b696-f5f57942ead4@32g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
> (Hey, we can not always be serious and talk about monkeys and bananas.
> This time is play time. It's like God throws a ball at you and you
> catch it... This is as well a "low ball" for a certain Ed)
>
> Notice God is dog spelled backwards, and the proposition starts to
> make sense to you.
>
> A pet God will allow to be a substitute of God that you can actually
> relate to and talk to, even if he only barks back at you.
>
> In a reversal of roles, the pet God will be loyal to you, so you know
> how important that is in the Kingdom of the Lord. You are to God what
> the pet God to you, so you'll feel like drooling at Heaven.
>
> In other words, having a pet God prepares for the real thing. Now the
> question is chihuahua or german shepherd?

TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
like a poor crazy bastard. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
It is a mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot
even if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 3:59 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 3, 3:33 pm, Walt <wka...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Who is more sovereign, the one who pisses on the floor or the one who
> has to clean it up?

Well, many owners simply don't pickup after their dogs and after every
reason to believe 80% of them are Christian.

That's very typical of the lack of communitarian spirit we live under
today, the "last days" according to the Christians.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 4:08 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 3, 3:33 pm, Walt <wka...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Who is more sovereign, the one who pisses on the floor or the one who
> has to clean it up?

Well, many owners simply don't pickup after their dogs and I have
every reason to believe 80% of them are Christian.

That's very typical of the lack of communitarian spirit we live under
today, the "last days" according to the Christians.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 4:44 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ba3a4100-9218-42ae-a389-ce2bd88ba6af@r16g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 3, 3:33 pm, Walt <wka...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Who is more sovereign, the one who pisses on the floor or the one who
>> has to clean it up?
>
> Well, many owners simply don't pickup after their dogs and after every
> reason to believe 80% of them are Christian.
>
> That's very typical of the lack of communitarian spirit we live under
> today, the "last days" according to the Christians.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
It is a mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot
even if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 9:12 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

(I don't think so)

On Dec 3, 9:08 pm, livvy <mmrward1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> you really need to find something to do. You hate everything.....get
> it. You're really reaching here....actually stretching. You care
> about neither religion, nor pets. We get it. And yet you can't
> stop yapping. Find something.

One thing the Christians definitely don't have is a sense of humor.

Hey, I read something that perhaps will make you laugh:

SIGN AT CHURCH:

"THOSE CAUGHT PARKING HERE WILL BE CHARGED FOR TRESPASSING AND WILL BE
BAPTIZED"

No way!!!!!!!

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 10:43 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e1a3ee6-eef2-44f2-81c2-9854935374eb@35g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> (I don't think so)
>
> On Dec 3, 9:08 pm, livvy <mmrward1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you really need to find something to do. You hate everything.....get
>> it. You're really reaching here....actually stretching. You care
>> about neither religion, nor pets. We get it. And yet you can't
>> stop yapping. Find something.
>
> One thing the Christians definitely don't have is a sense of humor.
>
> Hey, I read something that perhaps will make you laugh:
>
> SIGN AT CHURCH:
>
> "THOSE CAUGHT PARKING HERE WILL BE CHARGED FOR TRESPASSING AND WILL BE
> BAPTIZED"
>
> No way!!!!!!!

You've got shit for brains all right. Now what else is new?

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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TOPIC: The 'Trickle Down' Lie-on
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 7:34 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 2, 5:18 pm, "Mike Painter" <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I once had someone explain the trickle down economy in a way that made
> perfect sense.
>
> It of course ignored two facts.
> 1.Trickles tend to be constant so the rich could keep on getting richer.
> 2. Nobody likes a trickle so every effort is made to plug the leak.

Exactly right. But let me give you an example as owner of small pets --
birds and mice-- which, of course, can't feed themselves.

I'm the master here, and this theory says that instead of me having
the obligation to feed them, the scraps from my table will eventually
fall to the floor where they'll pick it after some struggle among
themselves.

It's all about comfort, but in real life I still have to get my ass
out the chair and consciously provide them with shelter, food, water --
and exercise.

The last part is usually forgotten by our masters.

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"The Wisdom of the Jungle proves Trickle Down economics wrong--and
sneaky"

THE REVOLUTION IS ABOUT SOLUTIONS

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== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 10:34 am
From: Charmin

On Dec 3, 10:34 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
backyard philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 5:18 pm, "Mike Painter" <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > I once had someone explain the trickle down economy in a way that made
> > perfect sense.
>
> > It of course ignored two facts.
> > 1.Trickles tend to be constant so the rich could keep on getting richer.
> > 2. Nobody likes a trickle so every effort is made to plug the leak.
>
> Exactly right. But let me give you an example as owner of small pets --
> birds and mice-- which, of course, can't feed themselves.
>
> I'm the master here, and this theory says that instead of me having
> the obligation to feed them, the scraps from my table will eventually
> fall to the floor where they'll pick it after some struggle among
> themselves.
>
> It's all about comfort, but in real life I still have to get my ass
> out the chair and consciously provide them with shelter, food, water --
> and exercise.
>
But it's your mom who is really providing for them.
She's providing you that car and the basement you live in too.
That big GF of yours ain't letting many scraps hit the floor either.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 11:20 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 3, 1:34 pm, Charmin <char...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 10:34 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>
> backyard philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 5:18 pm, "Mike Painter" <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > I once had someone explain the trickle down economy in a way that made
> > > perfect sense.
>
> > > It of course ignored two facts.
> > > 1.Trickles tend to be constant so the rich could keep on getting richer.
> > > 2. Nobody likes a trickle so every effort is made to plug the leak.
>
> > Exactly right. But let me give you an example as owner of small pets --
> > birds and mice-- which, of course, can't feed themselves.
>
> > I'm the master here, and this theory says that instead of me having
> > the obligation to feed them, the scraps from my table will eventually
> > fall to the floor where they'll pick it after some struggle among
> > themselves.
>
> > It's all about comfort, but in real life I still have to get my ass
> > out the chair and consciously provide them with shelter, food, water --
> > and exercise.
>
> But it's your mom who is really providing for them.
> She's providing you that car and the basement you live in too.
> That big GF of yours ain't letting many scraps hit the floor either.

I just want peanuts and a bicycle so she doesn't have to pay for gas.

You know what, just now we are driving 4-5 miles because we dare not
ride on those roads. And once that car goes down, what?

Life in the cage, huh? I hope you know a car is known as a cage. ;)

"You are sick of all cages, the home and the car, and decided to take
some cool air on your bike. Don't forget your bananas!"

http://www.zazzle.com/out_of_my_cage_tshirt-235594472819468340

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 4:45 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4ad8404d-3fdc-45ca-8eb3-e438fa295ea0@u25g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 2, 5:18 pm, "Mike Painter" <md.pain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I once had someone explain the trickle down economy in a way that made
>> perfect sense.
>>
>> It of course ignored two facts.
>> 1.Trickles tend to be constant so the rich could keep on getting richer.
>> 2. Nobody likes a trickle so every effort is made to plug the leak.
>
> Exactly right. But let me give you an example as owner of small pets --
> birds and mice-- which, of course, can't feed themselves.
>
> I'm the master here, and this theory says that instead of me having
> the obligation to feed them, the scraps from my table will eventually
> fall to the floor where they'll pick it after some struggle among
> themselves.
>
> It's all about comfort, but in real life I still have to get my ass
> out the chair and consciously provide them with shelter, food, water --
> and exercise.
>
> The last part is usually forgotten by our masters.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
It is a mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot
even if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 8:45 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 3, 9:08 pm, livvy <mmrward1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 3:22 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>
>
>
> backyard philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Notice God is dog spelled backwards, and the proposition starts to
> > make sense to you.
>
> > A pet God will allow to be a substitute of God that you can actually
> > relate to and talk to, even if he only barks back at you.
>
> > In a reversal of roles, the pet God will be loyal to you, so you know
> > how important that is in the Kingdom of the Lord. You are to God what
> > the pet God to you, so you'll feel like drooling at Heaven.
>
> > In other words, having a pet God prepares for the real thing. Now the
> > question is chihuahua or german shepherd?
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/FARTFORPEACE(notfart at peace)
>
> you really need to find something to do. You hate everything.....get
> it. You're really reaching here....actually stretching. You care
> about neither religion, nor pets. We get it. And yet you can't
> stop yapping. Find something.

One thing the Christians definitely don't have is a sense of humor.

Hey, I read something that perhaps will make you laugh:

SIGN AT CHURCH:

"THOSE CAUGHT PARKING HERE WILL BE CHARGED FOR TRESPASSING AND WILL BE
BAPTIZED"

No way!!!!!!!

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Dec 3 2010 10:49 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

TibetanMonkey,
[...]
> One thing the Christians definitely don't have is a sense of humor.
>
> Hey, I read something that perhaps will make you laugh:
>
> SIGN AT CHURCH:
>
> "THOSE CAUGHT PARKING HERE WILL BE CHARGED FOR TRESPASSING AND WILL BE
> BAPTIZED"
>
> No way!!!!!!!

The point of any newsgroup is to COMMUNICATE something that others can
respond to. You never do that. I think it is because you are a poor crazy
bastard and, frankly, the sooner some motorist puts you out of your misery,
the better. Fuck you, you god damn dumb stupid asshole!

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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