Monday, April 11, 2011

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* DAY OF THE GREAT SLAUGHTER: MAY 21, 2011 - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Cell Phone boosters or antennas - 12 messages, 8 authors
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* Socialist Utopia full of Christians? Yeah, that's Heaven! - 1 messages, 1
author
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* hai have a nice day - 1 messages, 1 author
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* I want to spend less than $4,000 on a back yard shed! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* The Bermuda Triangle of Cycling: L.A. to N.Y. to Miami - 5 messages, 4
authors
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* Poorest Whites outscore affluent Blacks on SAT test. - 1 messages, 1 author
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 12:00 am
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TOPIC: DAY OF THE GREAT SLAUGHTER: MAY 21, 2011
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 2:39 am
From: "carole"

"Rebel1" <Rebel1@optonline.net> wrote in message news:4da1f790$0$1300$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> What kind of deranged pervert believes this nonsense? Christianity (and the other organized "religions") are
> mental illnesses, all trying to control you by holding out the HOPE that there is eternal life for those who
> follow their rules (no matter how arbitrary and contradictory they are).
>
> Check this out:
> http://www.evilbible.com/
>
>
>


Absolute nonsense (religion).

--
Carole
www.conspiracee.com
"There are known knowns - there are things we know that we know.
There are known unknowns - that is to say, there are things that we know we don't know.
But there are also unknown unknowns - there are things we don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 6:47 am
From: Paul


"carole" <hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
news:h%zop.1072$CS3.107@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:

> Absolute nonsense (religion).

Absolute nonsense: crossposting.

--
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pssawyer at comcast dot net

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TOPIC: Cell Phone boosters or antennas
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 3:56 am
From: George


On 4/10/2011 4:54 PM, aemeijers wrote:
> On 4/10/2011 4:19 PM, Tony Miklos wrote:
>> On 4/10/2011 11:26 AM, Jeff Thies wrote:
>>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone coverage
>>> is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.
>>>
>>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?
>>>
>>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna would be
>>> just as well. Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd like to spend less than
>>> $200, but you know how that goes!
>>>
>>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide antenna)
>>> facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or quarter if there
>>> is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the can would have a ton of
>>> gain. Crazy?
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>> Get yourself an old "bag phone". They have about 20 times more signal
>> strength. Keep the antenna away from your body.
>
> And talk to what with it? All the old bag phones I have seen are analog,
> which is basically gone at this point.
>
> OP needs a cell repeater or femtocell device. He'll cry at the price,
> though, even online. Google 'residential cell phone booster', figure out
> correct model. and then try to find a cheaper one on ebay.
>
> Or just get rid of the cell phone and get a real phone. After a month
> you won't even miss it.
>
How does that work out portability wise?


== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 7:49 am
From: malch@malch.com (Malcolm Hoar)


In article <UuydnVmsntw1wz_QnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, aemeijers <aemeijers@att.net> wrote:
>
>yeah, but if it is hung off your internet connection, and that goes
>down, and you don't have a landline, how ya gonna call it in?

Drive half a mile down the road where I can make a regular
cellphone without difficulty. Or 1.5 miles where I can
park literally right under an AT&T cell tower ;-)

Yes, the Microcell is useless without IP but I'm still
better off with it than I am without it. It doesn't make
matters worse in *any* respect -- there's zero downside
(apart from the $150 purchase price).

--
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
| malch@malch.com Gary Player. |
| http://www.malch.com/ |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 7:52 am
From: Jeff Thies


On 4/10/2011 3:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> Jeff Thies wrote:
>
>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone coverage is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.
>
>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?
>
> They arent legal in my country.
>
>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna would be just as well.
>
> Yes, those are used a lot in RVs.
>
> You do need a cellphone that can have an antenna attached, most modern ones cant anymore.
>
>> Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd like to spend less than $200, but you know how that goes!
>
>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide
>> antenna) facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or
>> quarter if there is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the can
>> would have a ton of gain. Crazy?
>
> Nope, it can work, but its not as easy to do as you might think.
>
>
>
What's the problem?

It's mostly that I need to go up about 5 feet.

http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html

That looks like: a 4 1/4" (for 1900 mHz) can at least that long.
Perhaps a 1/4" hole 1.63" from the bottom, with 1.63" of wire sticking
both into and out of the can mounted in a bit of plex. Orient the can
vertically and point it at the nearest cellphone tower, which is visible.

Am I missing something that you know of?

Jeff


== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 12:33 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Jeff Thies wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Jeff Thies wrote

>>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone coverage is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.

>>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?

>> They arent legal in my country.

>>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna would be just as well.

>> Yes, those are used a lot in RVs.

>> You do need a cellphone that can have an antenna attached, most modern ones cant anymore.

>>> Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd like to spend less than $200, but you know how that goes!

>>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide
>>> antenna) facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or
>>> quarter if there is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the can
>>> would have a ton of gain. Crazy?

>> Nope, it can work, but its not as easy to do as you might think.

> What's the problem?

You clearly dont know much about antennas. Not that that is
a major problem if you can find a decent set of plans for one.

> It's mostly that I need to go up about 5 feet.

Whats that based on, where the driveway is ?

I still think that if your cellphone can accept and external antenna,
and most cant, that it makes a lot more sense to just buy the sort
of antenna thats designed for a car or RV instead and use that.

> http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html

> That looks like: a 4 1/4" (for 1900 mHz) can at least that long.
> Perhaps a 1/4" hole 1.63" from the bottom, with 1.63" of wire sticking
> both into and out of the can mounted in a bit of plex. Orient the can
> vertically and point it at the nearest cellphone tower, which is visible.

> Am I missing something that you know of?

Yes, thats a wifi cantenna, not a cellphone cantenna.
The frequencys are completely different.

Your original shows that you dont understand the basics with the
bit about the dipole. That cantenna doesnt use anything like that.

Corse you do need to check that your cellphone can take an external antenna first, most cant.


== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 12:54 pm
From: Jeff Thies


On 4/11/2011 3:33 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> Jeff Thies wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Jeff Thies wrote
>
>>>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone coverage is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.
>
>>>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?
>
>>> They arent legal in my country.
>
>>>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna would be just as well.
>
>>> Yes, those are used a lot in RVs.
>
>>> You do need a cellphone that can have an antenna attached, most modern ones cant anymore.
>
>>>> Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd like to spend less than $200, but you know how that goes!
>
>>>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide
>>>> antenna) facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or
>>>> quarter if there is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the can
>>>> would have a ton of gain. Crazy?
>
>>> Nope, it can work, but its not as easy to do as you might think.
>
>> What's the problem?
>
> You clearly dont know much about antennas. Not that that is
> a major problem if you can find a decent set of plans for one.
>
>> It's mostly that I need to go up about 5 feet.
>
> Whats that based on, where the driveway is ?
>
> I still think that if your cellphone can accept and external antenna,
> and most cant, that it makes a lot more sense to just buy the sort
> of antenna thats designed for a car or RV instead and use that.
>
>> http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html
>
>> That looks like: a 4 1/4" (for 1900 mHz) can at least that long.
>> Perhaps a 1/4" hole 1.63" from the bottom, with 1.63" of wire sticking
>> both into and out of the can mounted in a bit of plex. Orient the can
>> vertically and point it at the nearest cellphone tower, which is visible.
>
>> Am I missing something that you know of?
>
> Yes, thats a wifi cantenna, not a cellphone cantenna.
> The frequencys are completely different.


Yes, I know, which is why I tuned it for 1900 mHz rather than (I
believe) 2300mHz.

>
> Your original shows that you dont understand the basics with the
> bit about the dipole.

I think I have some grasp on dipoles (held an Amateur Advanced [seems
like misnomer]) at 16 and have built my share of antennas.

That a cantenna doesnt use anything like that.

The feed element is tuned to a 1/4 wave. Think of a 1/4 vertical with
the can being the ground plane, it is large enough wavelength wise.
>
> Corse you do need to check that your cellphone can take an external antenna first, most cant.

I thought you were following the passive repeater bit. What I'm
thinking is something of an improved version of this:

http://www.amazon.com/Cellet-Mount-Passive-Antenna-Repeater/dp/B000KNNKVS

Hey, if you know something about this, put in something constructive,
otherwise it's back in the virtual kill file.

Jeff
>
>

== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 2:25 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <90h3bhFujrU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>

reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong


== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 2:27 pm
From: willshak


Rod Speed wrote the following:
> Tony Miklos wrote
>
>> Jeff Thies wrote
>>
>
>
>>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone coverage is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.
>>>
>
>
>>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?
>>>
>
>
>>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna would be just as well. Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd
>>> like to spend less than $200, but you know how that goes!
>>>
>
>
>>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide
>>> antenna) facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or
>>> quarter if there is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the can
>>> would have a ton of gain. Crazy?
>>>
>
>
>> Get yourself an old "bag phone". They have about 20 times more signal strength.
>>
>
> The industry is pulling the plug on those AMPS phones now.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Mobile_Phone_System
>

That phone reminds me of "A Night at the Roxbury"


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @


== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 3:44 pm
From: aemeijers


On 4/11/2011 6:56 AM, George wrote:
> On 4/10/2011 4:54 PM, aemeijers wrote:
>> On 4/10/2011 4:19 PM, Tony Miklos wrote:
>>> On 4/10/2011 11:26 AM, Jeff Thies wrote:
>>>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone
>>>> coverage
>>>> is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.
>>>>
>>>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?
>>>>
>>>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna would be
>>>> just as well. Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd like to spend less than
>>>> $200, but you know how that goes!
>>>>
>>>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide antenna)
>>>> facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or quarter if
>>>> there
>>>> is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the can would have a ton of
>>>> gain. Crazy?
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> Get yourself an old "bag phone". They have about 20 times more signal
>>> strength. Keep the antenna away from your body.
>>
>> And talk to what with it? All the old bag phones I have seen are analog,
>> which is basically gone at this point.
>>
>> OP needs a cell repeater or femtocell device. He'll cry at the price,
>> though, even online. Google 'residential cell phone booster', figure out
>> correct model. and then try to find a cheaper one on ebay.
>>
>> Or just get rid of the cell phone and get a real phone. After a month
>> you won't even miss it.
>>
> How does that work out portability wise?

My point being, that other than the fact they are used to it and/or
addicted to it, how many people really NEED a cell phone to survive,
personally or career-wise? Mine lives in my briefcase, and I turn it on
once a week to clear the wrong-number messages. I actually carry it in
my pocket and switched on, maybe 4-5 days a year, when I am traveling,
or need to meet up with some contractor or something. That is worth the
8 bucks a month to me. But 50 bucks a month or more for a smartphone?
What for? I have a computer at work, and a computer at home. I can tough
it out for the 15 minute commute. I refuse to be a cell phone zombie
wandering around the grocery store or mall or city street, hunched over
looking at a tiny screen.

--
aem sends...


== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 4:44 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Jeff Thies wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Jeff Thies wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Jeff Thies wrote

>>>>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone coverage is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.

>>>>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?

>>>> They arent legal in my country.

>>>>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna would be just as well.

>>>> Yes, those are used a lot in RVs.

>>>> You do need a cellphone that can have an antenna attached, most modern ones cant anymore.

>>>>> Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd like to spend less than $200, but
>>>>> you know how that goes!

>>>>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide
>>>>> antenna) facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or
>>>>> quarter if there is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the
>>>>> can would have a ton of gain. Crazy?

>>>> Nope, it can work, but its not as easy to do as you might think.

>>> What's the problem?

>> You clearly dont know much about antennas. Not that that is
>> a major problem if you can find a decent set of plans for one.

>>> It's mostly that I need to go up about 5 feet.

>> Whats that based on, where the driveway is ?

Why didnt you answer that ?

>> I still think that if your cellphone can accept and external antenna,
>> and most cant, that it makes a lot more sense to just buy the sort
>> of antenna thats designed for a car or RV instead and use that.

>>> http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html

>>> That looks like: a 4 1/4" (for 1900 mHz) can at least that long.
>>> Perhaps a 1/4" hole 1.63" from the bottom, with 1.63" of wire
>>> sticking both into and out of the can mounted in a bit of plex.
>>> Orient the can vertically and point it at the nearest cellphone
>>> tower, which is visible.

>>> Am I missing something that you know of?

>> Yes, thats a wifi cantenna, not a cellphone cantenna.
>> The frequencys are completely different.

> Yes, I know, which is why I tuned it for 1900 mHz rather than (I believe) 2300mHz.

You sure your cellphone is using 1900 ?

>> Your original shows that you dont understand the basics with the bit about the dipole.

> I think I have some grasp on dipoles (held an Amateur Advanced [seems like misnomer]) at 16 and have built my share of
> antennas.

That cantenna you posted the url for doesnt have one.

> That a cantenna doesnt use anything like that.

> The feed element is tuned to a 1/4 wave.

Its isnt a DIPOLE, its a monopole.

> Think of a 1/4 vertical with the can being the ground plane, it is large enough wavelength wise.

Its nothing like a ground plane electrically.

>> Corse you do need to check that your cellphone can take an external antenna first, most cant.

> I thought you were following the passive repeater bit. What I'm thinking is something of an improved version of this:

> http://www.amazon.com/Cellet-Mount-Passive-Antenna-Repeater/dp/B000KNNKVS

Cant see that working very well.

And how do you plan to do it with that cantenna ?

> Hey, if you know something about this, put in something
> constructive, otherwise it's back in the virtual kill file.

I dont give a flying red fuck what you do or do not choose to read.


== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 4:50 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


aemeijers wrote
> George wrote
>> aemeijers wrote
>>> Tony Miklos wrote
>>>> Jeff Thies wrote

>>>>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone coverage is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.

>>>>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?

>>>>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna
>>>>> would be just as well. Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd like to
>>>>> spend less than $200, but you know how that goes!

>>>>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide
>>>>> antenna) facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or
>>>>> quarter if there is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the can would have a ton of gain. Crazy?

>>>> Get yourself an old "bag phone". They have about 20 times more signal strength. Keep the antenna away from your
>>>> body.

>>> And talk to what with it? All the old bag phones I have seen are analog, which is basically gone at this point.

>>> OP needs a cell repeater or femtocell device. He'll cry at the
>>> price, though, even online. Google 'residential cell phone
>>> booster', figure out correct model. and then try to find a cheaper
>>> one on ebay.

>>> Or just get rid of the cell phone and get a real phone. After a month you won't even miss it.

>> How does that work out portability wise?

> My point being, that other than the fact they are used to it and/or addicted to it, how many people really NEED a cell
> phone to survive, personally or career-wise?

It aint about survival, its about convenience.

If you do need a cellphone anyway, it may not be
worth it for HIM to pay for a fixed line phone as well
if he can make the cellphone work cheaply at home.

> Mine lives in my briefcase, and I turn it on once a week to clear the wrong-number messages. I actually carry
> it in my pocket and switched on, maybe 4-5 days a year, when I am
> traveling, or need to meet up with some contractor or something. That
> is worth the 8 bucks a month to me. But 50 bucks a month or more for
> a smartphone? What for? I have a computer at work, and a computer at
> home. I can tough it out for the 15 minute commute. I refuse to be a
> cell phone zombie wandering around the grocery store or mall or city
> street, hunched over looking at a tiny screen.


== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 5:56 pm
From: "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"


On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:44:24 -0400, aemeijers <aemeijers@att.net> wrote:

>On 4/11/2011 6:56 AM, George wrote:
>> On 4/10/2011 4:54 PM, aemeijers wrote:
>>> On 4/10/2011 4:19 PM, Tony Miklos wrote:
>>>> On 4/10/2011 11:26 AM, Jeff Thies wrote:
>>>>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone
>>>>> coverage
>>>>> is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?
>>>>>
>>>>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna would be
>>>>> just as well. Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd like to spend less than
>>>>> $200, but you know how that goes!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide antenna)
>>>>> facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or quarter if
>>>>> there
>>>>> is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the can would have a ton of
>>>>> gain. Crazy?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> Get yourself an old "bag phone". They have about 20 times more signal
>>>> strength. Keep the antenna away from your body.
>>>
>>> And talk to what with it? All the old bag phones I have seen are analog,
>>> which is basically gone at this point.
>>>
>>> OP needs a cell repeater or femtocell device. He'll cry at the price,
>>> though, even online. Google 'residential cell phone booster', figure out
>>> correct model. and then try to find a cheaper one on ebay.
>>>
>>> Or just get rid of the cell phone and get a real phone. After a month
>>> you won't even miss it.
>>>
>> How does that work out portability wise?
>
>My point being, that other than the fact they are used to it and/or
>addicted to it, how many people really NEED a cell phone to survive,
>personally or career-wise? Mine lives in my briefcase, and I turn it on
>once a week to clear the wrong-number messages. I actually carry it in
>my pocket and switched on, maybe 4-5 days a year, when I am traveling,
>or need to meet up with some contractor or something. That is worth the
>8 bucks a month to me. But 50 bucks a month or more for a smartphone?
>What for? I have a computer at work, and a computer at home. I can tough
>it out for the 15 minute commute. I refuse to be a cell phone zombie
>wandering around the grocery store or mall or city street, hunched over
>looking at a tiny screen.

We don't have a land line. Except when I was looking for a job and during the
later move, I rarely use my cell phone but I do carry it with me when I'm out
of the house anyway.


== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 7:42 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <90hi27F759U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I dont give a flying red fuck what you do or do not choose to read.

TRANSLATION: I, the great god speed, have no ability to back up anything I post

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 5:45 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 11, 12:39 am, "Jakub A. Krzewicki" <drukpakun...@gmail.org>
wrote:

> > Imagine, missionary position all the time!

> I don't think that there is actually such a kind of God which censors any
> sexual positions. On the other side, IMHO the missionary position, and some
> other where you make love with your GF face to face seem much more pleasant
> to me as more romantic than any "face-to-back" positions. And a creampie is
> also a lot of fun...

The Christian God does. At least the Christians are very strict about
morality even though 95% of Americans have premarital sex. Perhaps
there's a big hypocrisy surrounding the issue.

Anyways going back to the important stuff, there's one position that
facilitated the Tantra but I'm yet to find a name. Maybe I can call it
"TibetanMonkey" but I should look in the Kama Sutra first.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 8:47 am
From: sakthivel vel


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 11:39 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <90fn1dF9vhU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Jeff Thies <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote
>
> >> There is already a link for OC Container in this thread,
> >> which I believe OG is close to Columbus.
>
> > Yes I saw it
>
> No point in me repeating whats already been posted, fuckwit.

But there was a point in asking you to post it before someone else did,
something that you are congenitally unable to do, old fella

>
> >> For all Rods faults, there is no reason why some guy from OZ has
> >> to do some guy from Ohio's homework. Is that not a bit too petty?
>
> > Certainly Ohioguy seems to not be able to google anything himself,
> > but in fact speed offered nothing but opinion and conjecture,
>
> Wrong. I have enough of a clue to realise that EVERYONE
> uses shipping containers, even Ohio.

But you had no clue where Ohioguy could actually get on in Ohio. That was the
question posted to you old fella

>
> > as usual
>
> > and I was just rubbing it in.
>
> Just making a spectacular of yourself, as always, in fact.

"Making a spectacular of yourself", Yes in fact I am spectacular, you on the
other hand are a consummate fool. Do learn how to complete your pathetic flames.

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 11:39 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity, and
comments from California and Miami confirm that. Here's comment from
California:

"Having been the victim of two careless drivers... I still bike and
the rage remains."

"I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."

And I can confirm the same from Miami. Then the triangle is formed.
Notice how Key West falls outside the triangle and and so does
Portland and San Diego, which I hear has many bike lanes. Texas, on
the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
from there.

Don't call me superstitious just wise, Wise TibetanMonkey.


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http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 12:04 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


READ THIS CAREFULLY! This may be the last post before they take it
down. They closed my last thread MAKING NOISE about local conditions.
Well, they told me to go to Key West, which is outside the
triangle... ;)

Posted by Matt Meltzer
Gainesville an Austin fall in there too. Some of the most bike-
friendly places I've been. Seems a bit much to classify half the
geographical area of the country as a "dangerous" zone. Crowded
cities, sure. But I'm sure rural Georgia isn't too bad to bike in.

***

I hear rural areas are the most dangerous, perhaps due to speeds.
Gainesville and few other places do have bicycle culture. Orlando is
growing. We only have to tame now 99.99% of the remaining area, which
should amount to about 3/4 of the country, excluding Alaska which I
hear is also very dangerous.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 1:24 pm
From: Forrest Hodge


On 4/11/2011 2:39 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher wrote:
> Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
> where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity, and
> comments from California and Miami confirm that. Here's comment from
> California:
>
> "Having been the victim of two careless drivers... I still bike and
> the rage remains."
>
> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>
> And I can confirm the same from Miami. Then the triangle is formed.
> Notice how Key West falls outside the triangle and and so does
> Portland and San Diego, which I hear has many bike lanes. Texas, on
> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
> from there.
>
> Don't call me superstitious just wise, Wise TibetanMonkey.
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE

"I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."

Ten hours a week in commuting? Wouldn't the subway be faster and
arguably less dangerous?


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 4:03 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In <e48cdfe2-598c-4bd4-9ef2-7aae99de1caf@h38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote in part (edited for space):

>Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
>where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity,

<SNIP to NYC, my point is NYC>

>"I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
>hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."

I thought New York City, especially Manhattan, was a place where
hundreds of bicycle messengers found employment.

If I remember correctly, NYC's messengers got 50,000 traffic tickets in
some short period of time (maybe a single month) shortly after they took
emboldment from the movie "Quicksilver".

There is the matter of the aggressiveness of NYC's drivers and
pedestrians. However, I have found that aggressiveness to be more orderly
and predictable than that of Philadelphia's drivers and pedestrians, and
accordingly less dangerous - even though Philly's drivers on average are
less aggressive than NYC's.

My advice to someone considering cycling on NYC's streets: Ask a few
who do so already, and have done so for the past year or more while still
being alive to ask, and have not had a hospital admission due to a bike
crash after their 1st 6 months of cycling in NYC.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 6:49 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 11, 7:03 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> In <e48cdfe2-598c-4bd4-9ef2-7aae99de1...@h38g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote in part (edited for space):
>
> >Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
> >where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity,
>
> <SNIP to NYC, my point is NYC>
>
> >"I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
> >hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>
>   I thought New York City, especially Manhattan, was a place where
> hundreds of bicycle messengers found employment.
>
>   If I remember correctly, NYC's messengers got 50,000 traffic tickets in
> some short period of time (maybe a single month) shortly after they took
> emboldment from the movie "Quicksilver".
>
>   There is the matter of the aggressiveness of NYC's drivers and
> pedestrians.  However, I have found that aggressiveness to be more orderly
> and predictable than that of Philadelphia's drivers and pedestrians, and
> accordingly less dangerous - even though Philly's drivers on average are
> less aggressive than NYC's.
>
>   My advice to someone considering cycling on NYC's streets:  Ask a few
> who do so already, and have done so for the past year or more while still
> being alive to ask, and have not had a hospital admission due to a bike
> crash after their 1st 6 months of cycling in NYC.
> --
>  - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

Here's the article. Three points I want to make, since they try to
soften the message:

1- It's not mice against roaches. IT'S RATS AGAINST MICE.

2- "It's almost political." In reality it's more than political. It's
a revolution that we need.

3- It's not "Rage Against Your Machine." It's rage of the machine
against the human being, including pedestrians.

"What is it about cyclists that can turn sane, law-abiding drivers
into shrieking maniacs? The author ponders the eternal conflict with
help from bike supercommuter Joe Simonetti, who each week survives the
hostile, traffic-clogged rat race between the New York exurbs and
Midtown Manhattan."

http://outsideonline.com/adventure/travel-ga-201103-new-york-bike-commuting-sidwcmdev_154507.html

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 1:24 pm
From: walt tonne


On Apr 10, 8:56 am, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Outside of demographic characteristics such as race and ethnicity,
> familial characteristics shape
> educational outcomes and are correlated with standardized test scores.
> For example, evidence of
> a correlation between parents' educational achievement and their
> children's low educational
> attainment is consistent (Boocock, 1972). This may also reflect the
> amount of emphasis parents
> place on education. Likewise, there is a strong and consistent direct
> correlation between family
> income and SAT scores, though income differences alone cannot
> adequately explain the gap.
> That is, even among the lowest income group (less than $10,000),
> Whites score 129 points
> higher than the national mean for African Americans and almost 61
> points higher than African
> Americans whose families earn between $80,000 and $100,000 annually
> (The Journal of Blacks
> in Higher Education, 2005).
>
> *Research brief, TheWilliams Institute.
>
> Poor "trailer park" type Whites have more potential then upscale
> Blacks. If it was not for
> government employment Black middle class would greatly diminish. (more
> Blacks have
> the advantage of pre-schooling then Whites)

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 10 2011 10:04 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <intouh$gbn$1@news.albasani.net>, Jeff Thies <jeff_thies@att.net>
wrote:

> There is already a link for OC Container in this thread, which I believe
> OG is close to Columbus.

Yes I saw it


>
> For all Rods faults, there is no reason why some guy from OZ has to do
> some guy from Ohio's homework. Is that not a bit too petty?

Certainly Ohioguy seems to not be able to google anything himself, but in fact
speed offered nothing but opinion and conjecture, as usual and I was just
rubbing it in.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 10 2011 11:56 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> Jeff Thies <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote

>> There is already a link for OC Container in this thread,
>> which I believe OG is close to Columbus.

> Yes I saw it

No point in me repeating whats already been posted, fuckwit.

>> For all Rods faults, there is no reason why some guy from OZ has
>> to do some guy from Ohio's homework. Is that not a bit too petty?

> Certainly Ohioguy seems to not be able to google anything himself,
> but in fact speed offered nothing but opinion and conjecture,

Wrong. I have enough of a clue to realise that EVERYONE
uses shipping containers, even Ohio.

> as usual

> and I was just rubbing it in.

Just making a spectacular of yourself, as always, in fact.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 10 2011 11:53 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Tony Miklos wrote
> Jeff Thies wrote

>> The rental house is on the downside of a hill and the cellphone coverage is poor. Up the driveway it is fine.

>> Any experience with any of the cell phone boosters?

>> I see some are tethered to the phone, in which case an antenna would be just as well. Some rebroadcast both ways. I'd
>> like to spend less than $200, but you know how that goes!

>> I'm halfway thinking of a Pringles can (or some such waveguide
>> antenna) facing the tower, but elevated, connected to a half (or
>> quarter if there is a ground plane) wave dipole. Seems like the can
>> would have a ton of gain. Crazy?

> Get yourself an old "bag phone". They have about 20 times more signal strength.

The industry is pulling the plug on those AMPS phones now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Mobile_Phone_System

> Keep the antenna away from your body.

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