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TOPIC: OT: Apple pie from scratch
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 27 2009 7:49 pm
From: Stan Horwitz
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the
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-Carl Sagan.
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TOPIC: Keeping a good credit rating: how often should you use credit?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 28 2009 6:35 am
From: "Clincher"
"JR Weiss" <jrw@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:h9o8t1$9qv$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Steve wrote:
>
>> I have no debts and haven't used credit for years. I have a good
>> rating, but I am told it would be better if I used some credit ( and
>> paid it back in a timely way ).
>>
>> I was thinking of getting a credit card and using it as a debit card
>> for a small number of circumstances to do just that.
>>
>> How often and how much is the minimum I would need to borrow to
>> boost and then maintain my credit rating?
>
> There's no single or simple answer. A higher credit limit will reduce
> your score, but paying back borrowed money will increase it. MAYBE
> some Fair-Isaac analyst wh knows the secret formula could give you an
> answer if you gave him every detail of your financial situation...
>
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 28 2009 2:56 pm
From: "JR Weiss"
Clincher wrote:
>>> I have no debts and haven't used credit for years. I have a good
>>> rating, but I am told it would be better if I used some credit (
>>> and paid it back in a timely way ).
>>>
>>> I was thinking of getting a credit card and using it as a debit
>>> card for a small number of circumstances to do just that.
>>>
>>> How often and how much is the minimum I would need to borrow to
>>> boost and then maintain my credit rating?
>> The cheapest ways are to get a no-fee credit card and pay it off
>> every month, so it costs you nothing; and a no-closing-cost Home
>> Equity Line of Credit that you can "borrow" from (e.g., for a home
>> renovation) and repay immediately.
> Getting a lender to approve a credit card or not closing it for
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>
> In this envrionment, lenders are cherry-picking the most profitable
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If he already has a good credit rating, there should be no reason for a
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 28 2009 8:50 am
From: AZDuffman
On Sep 26, 8:08 am, martin <martin.secrest...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 25, 9:32 pm, "GWashingtonFan" <GWashingtonFan_USA> wrote:
>
>
>
> > To anyone who still clings to the absurd, tired cliche, "Illegal
> > aliens are only doing the jobs Americans won't do" I refer they read
> > the pusblished article I read a few months ago about the American
> > business executive who was laid-off and wound up working two jobs (one
> > in retail) to support his family.
>
> > Check out the latest incisive essay by Brenda Walker:
>
> > Why Are 15 Million Americans Unemployed When 8.3 Million Illegals Have
> > Jobs?
> > September 23, 2009
> > By Brenda Walkerhttp://vdare.com/walker/090923_moratorium.htm
>
> > Janitorial Job Gets Nearly 700 Applicants
> > March 7, 2009http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/bbdp/janitor-job-700-applicants/37
> > 3625
>
> > Obama halting immigration raids
> > 2/29/09http://24ahead.com/dhs-halting-immigration-raids-pending-policy-change-m
> > ay-go-a
>
> > How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
> > July 06, 2006
> > By John Dillinhttp://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> > What Would America's Founders Say?
>
> > The two enemies of the people are criminals
> > and government, so let us tie the second down
> > with the chains of the Constitution so the
> > second will not become the legalized version
> > of the first.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > Those who hammer their guns into plows will
> > plow for those who do not.
> > --Thomas Jefferson
>
> > It does not take a majority to prevail ... but
> > rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on
> > setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of
> > men.
> > --Samuel Adams
>
> > The strongest reason for the people to retain
> > the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last
> > resort, to protect themselves against tyranny
> > in government.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > A free people ought not only to be armed and
> > disciplined, but they should have sufficient
> > arms and ammunition to maintain a status of
> > independence from any who might attempt to
> > abuse them, which would include their own
> > government."
> > -- George Washington
>
> > No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > If the freedom of speech is taken away then
> > dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to
> > the slaughter.
> > -- George Washington
>
> > When governments fear the people there is liberty.
> > When the people fear the government there is tyranny.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a
> > standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed
> > populace.
> > -- James Madison
>
> > If the representatives of the people betray
> > their constituents, there is then no resource
> > left but in the exertion of that original
> > right of self-defense which is paramount to
> > all positive forms of government ... The
> > citizens must rush tumultuously to arms,
> > without concert, without system, without
> > resource; except in their courage and despair
> > ... The natural strength of the people in a
> > large community, in proportion to the artificial
> > strength of the government, is greater than in a
> > small ... the people, without exaggeration, may
> > be said to be entirely the masters of their own fate.
> > -- Alexander Hamilton
>
> > We in America do not have government by the majority.
> > We have government by the majority who participate.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people
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> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
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> > are its only safe depositories.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > As our enemies have found we can reason like men,
> > so now let us show them we can fight like men also.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act!
> > Action will delineate and define you.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > Merchants have no country. The mere spot they
> > stand on does not constitute so strong an
> > attachment as that from which they draw their gains.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy
> > of our monied corporations which dare already to
> > challenge our government to a trial by strength,
> > and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > I believe that banking institutions are more
> > dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> > Experience hath shewn, that even under the best
> > forms of government those entrusted with power
> > have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted
> > it into tyranny.
> > -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> Deportation of all illegal aliens would unleash an economic boom.
Not really, there will still be plenty of Obama-Supporters who would
rather wait for another govetnment check than "take a job beneath
them."
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 28 2009 11:07 am
From: "Bob F"
Draggonfodder wrote:
> You seem to be very obsessed with Fox news. Is it because they don't
> agree with you or is it that they seem to be the only news
> organization that actually reports the news. The fringe media
> (NYtimes, WashPost) have their noses shoved so far up Obambi's butt
> that they have stopped reporting the news and just reports on what
> his favorite color is or what tie he is wearing today. No wonder
> their circulation is way down and they are begging for Obambi to bail
> them out with some stimulus funds. You know you have won the
> argunment when the libs call you a name.
Maybe it's just the obvious right wing wacko FOX bias. Fow is so far right of
reality, it even shows up in the clearly erronious beliefs of their listeners in
polls. "Actually reports the news"?? I don't think so.
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tt
== 2 of 4 ==
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On Sep 28, 3:08 pm, martin <martin.secrest...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> tt
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== 3 of 4 ==
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Sweet Sue wrote:
> martin <martin.secrest...@gmail.com> wrote
>> http://www.niggermania.com/afnfaq/
> you are a complete ass.
Very incomplete, actually, no brain.
== 4 of 4 ==
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>On Sep 28, 3:08 pm, martin <martin.secrest...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.niggermania.com/afnfaq/
>>
>> tt
>
>you are a complete ass.
Notice how Sweet Sue, like all Leftist Libbos, can't refute sheer
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 28 2009 4:09 pm
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