Sunday, March 13, 2011

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 26 new messages in 5 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* University Medical Center Tucson Advertising - 18 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5b79f4c9ea300020?hl=en
* The option is yours: Libertarian SUV or Anarchist Bike - 4 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/570bf2fc6f1a97df?hl=en
* Homerowners and Auto Ins. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7a3ac5b39328f028?hl=en
* the gov. stole my hour. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/794bdd1248e0d054?hl=en
* children will take care of you, someday? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a629a707695dbd50?hl=en

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TOPIC: University Medical Center Tucson Advertising
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5b79f4c9ea300020?hl=en
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== 1 of 18 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 7:53 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead


== 2 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 12:14 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u2teqFnhqU2@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

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== 3 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 12:29 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead


== 4 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 3:45 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u4k92FtgoU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

--
.... . .- .-. -.. / - .... . / --- -. . / .- -... --- ..- - / -.-- --- ..- .-. /
.... . .- -.. / .- -. -.. / .- / -.- --- .- .-.. .- / -... . .- .-. .----. ... /
-... ..- -- / ..--.. /


== 5 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 3:03 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead


== 6 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 6:40 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u4taaF293U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave
> for dead

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!


== 7 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 6:41 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u4taaF293U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave
> for dead

reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belongs


== 8 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 6:42 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u4taaF293U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

.-. . .- -- ... / --- ..-. / -.-- --- ..- .-. / .--. .. --. / .. --. -. --- .-.
.- -. - / -- .. -. -.. .-.. . ... ... / ...-.- ...-.- ...-.- ...-.- / ..-. .-..
..- ... .... . -.. / .-- .... . .-. . / .. - / -... . .-.. --- -. --.


== 9 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 7:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead


== 10 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 7:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead


== 11 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 7:18 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead


== 12 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 9:34 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u5c6vF49jU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!


== 13 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 9:34 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u5c6vF49jU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!


== 14 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 9:35 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u5c6vF49jU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!


== 15 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 9:35 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u5c6kF41aU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!


== 16 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 9:35 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u5c6kF41aU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!


== 17 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 9:35 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u5c6aF415U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!


== 18 of 18 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 9:36 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u5c6aF415U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

reams of your pig ignorant mindless **** flushed where it belong

Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet.

Why is Rod Speed worth a FAQ?

You need to brush up on your NetSpeak. Rod most certainly isn't
worth a FUQ in anybody's opinion except his own.

Rod certainly posts a lot. Why is that?

It relates back to the point about boosting his own self esteem by
what amounts to effectively having a wank in public. Rod's
personality, as exemplified by his posts, means he is practically
unemployable which means he sits around at home all day festering away
and getting worse and worse. This means he posts more and more try
and boost the old failing self esteem. Being unemployed also means he
as a lot of time on his hands to post in he first place.

But maybe Rod really is a very clever and knowledgable person?

Clever? His posts wouldn't support that theory. As far as being
knowledgable, well, Rod has posted to various aus newsgroups including
invest, comms, and politics. He has posted to all as a self professed
expert" and flames any and all who disagree with him. Logically,
here's no way any single individual could be more than a jack of all
trades across such a wide spread of subject matter.

But maybe Rod really is an expert in some areas?

Possibly. However, his "bedside manner" prevents him from being
taken seriously by most normal people. Also, he has damaged his
credibility in areas where he might know what he's on about by
shooting his self in the foot in areas where he does not. For
example, in the case of subject matter such as politics, even a view
held by Albert Einstein cannot be little more than an opinion and to
vociferously denigrate an opposing opinion is simply small mindedness
and bigotry, the kind of which Einstein himself fought against his
whole life.

What is Rod Speed's main modus operandi?

Simple! He shoots off a half brained opinion in response to any other
post and touts that opinion as fact. When challenged, he responds
with vociferous and rabid denigration. He has an instantly
recognisable set of schoolboy put downs limited pretty much to the
following: "Pathetic, Puerile, Little Boy, try harder, trivial, more
lies, gutless wonder, wanker, etc etc". The fact that Rod has been
unable to come up with any new insults says a lot about his outlook
and intelligence.

But why do so many people respond to Rod in turn?

It has to do with effrontery and a lack of logic. Most people who
post have some basis of reason for what they write and when Rod
retorts with his usual denigration and derision they respond
emotionally rather than logically. It's like a teacher in a class
room who has a misbehaving pupil. The teacher challenges the pupil to
explain himself and the student responds with "fuck off, Big Nose!"
Even thought the teacher has a fairly normal proboscis, he gets a dent
in his self-esteem and might resort to an emotional repsonse like
"yeah? well your dick wouldn't fill a pop rivet, punk", which merely
invites some oneupmanship from the naughty pupil. Of course, the
teacher should not have justified the initial comment with a
response, especially in front of the class. The correct response was
"please report to the headmaster's office right NOW!"

What is a "RodBot"?

Some respondents in aus.invest built a "vritual Rod" which was
indiscernable from the "real" Rod. Net users could enter an opinion
or even a fact and the RoDBot would tell them they were pathetic lying
schoolboys who should be able to do better or some equally pithy Rod
Speedism.

Are you saying that Rod Speed is a Troll?

You got it!

What is the best way to handle Rod Speed?

KillFile!

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 7:24 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"


(I'm gonna recycle this post to illustrate the point that the bicycle
is the only vehicle of liberation outside of horses and mules. Well,
Jesus rode a donkey for a reason. Notice this proves Ayn Rand's
individualism wrong for ever)

On Mar 13, 2:36 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2011-03-12, Gary L Burnore <gburn...@databasix.com> wrote:
>
> > It's obviously not worth it. As he drives on a public road from his
> > employer who's likely getting a tax break, he'll make use of the
> > bridges and lights provided by the government.
>
> Be sure to let me know when
> a) the government is not the monopoly provider.
> b) when I can opt out paying said government.

Have you thought about the Amish communities? I think they have the
option not to go on public roads.

Actually you may do the same with a bike on trails and not "feed the
lion."

>
> > Were he robbed while walking down a publicly available sidewalk to the
> > local park kept clean by government workers, he'd go to the police and
> > report it.
>
> The only times I've ever been robbed it has been by government
> employees. And since going to the police is somewhere between a risk to
> myself and ineffective why bother unless the private insurance company
> that I have contracted with requires it?

That's true. They are there to suck your blood with dumb speeding
tickets. But if you ride a bike, you won't get one. ;)


------------------------------------------------------

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 11:46 am
From: Max


On Mar 13, 10:24 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of
the Stop the Bullshit Campaign" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> (I'm gonna recycle this post to illustrate the point that the bicycle
> is the only vehicle of liberation outside of horses and mules. Well,
> Jesus rode a donkey for a reason. Notice this proves Ayn Rand's
> individualism wrong for ever)
>
> On Mar 13, 2:36 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2011-03-12, Gary L  Burnore <gburn...@databasix.com> wrote:
>
> > > It's obviously not worth it.  As he drives on a public road from his
> > > employer who's likely getting a tax break, he'll make use of the
> > > bridges and lights provided by the government.
>
> > Be sure to let me know when
> > a) the government is not the monopoly provider.
> > b) when I can opt out paying said government.
>
> Have you thought about the Amish communities? I think they have the
> option not to go on public roads.
>
> Actually you may do the same with a bike on trails and not "feed the
> lion."
>
>
>
> > > Were he robbed while walking down a publicly available sidewalk to the
> > > local park kept clean by government workers, he'd go to the police and
> > > report it.
>
> > The only times I've ever been robbed it has been by government
> > employees. And since going to the police is somewhere between a risk to
> > myself and ineffective why bother unless the private insurance company
> > that I have contracted with requires it?
>
> That's true. They are there to suck your blood with dumb speeding
> tickets. But if you ride a bike, you won't get one. ;)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

In reality you are down to recycling because nobody gives a shit what
you post and you are out of steam.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 12:22 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Max" <im.1.maxaluminum@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:6c794087-6166-4072-b33d-f32002164028@d12g2000prj.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> In reality you [TM] are down to recycling because nobody gives a shit what
you post and you are out of steam.

Welcome to a very large club indeed!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 7:00 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"


On Mar 13, 2:46 pm, Max <im.1.maxalumi...@xoxy.net> wrote:
> On Mar 13, 10:24 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of
> the Stop the Bullshit Campaign" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > (I'm gonna recycle this post to illustrate the point that the bicycle
> > is the only vehicle of liberation outside of horses and mules. Well,
> > Jesus rode a donkey for a reason. Notice this proves Ayn Rand's
> > individualism wrong for ever)
>
> > On Mar 13, 2:36 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 2011-03-12, Gary L  Burnore <gburn...@databasix.com> wrote:
>
> > > > It's obviously not worth it.  As he drives on a public road from his
> > > > employer who's likely getting a tax break, he'll make use of the
> > > > bridges and lights provided by the government.
>
> > > Be sure to let me know when
> > > a) the government is not the monopoly provider.
> > > b) when I can opt out paying said government.
>
> > Have you thought about the Amish communities? I think they have the
> > option not to go on public roads.
>
> > Actually you may do the same with a bike on trails and not "feed the
> > lion."
>
> > > > Were he robbed while walking down a publicly available sidewalk to the
> > > > local park kept clean by government workers, he'd go to the police and
> > > > report it.
>
> > > The only times I've ever been robbed it has been by government
> > > employees. And since going to the police is somewhere between a risk to
> > > myself and ineffective why bother unless the private insurance company
> > > that I have contracted with requires it?
>
> > That's true. They are there to suck your blood with dumb speeding
> > tickets. But if you ride a bike, you won't get one. ;)
>
> > ------------------------------------------------------
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> In reality you are down to recycling because nobody gives a shit what
> you post and you are out of steam.

Sorry, I'm a conservationist. ;)

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 10:06 am
From: "terrable"

"Poppy" <nospam@nospam> wrote in message
news:iETep.85021$qd6.55035@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> Has anyone else seen an increase in their homeowners and auto policies?
> My homeowners went up $125 while they decreased the replacement value by
> $11,000.
> My auto went from $931 to $1337. Both are with Hartford.
> Needless to say I'm shopping them, so does anyone have an INDEPENDENT
> agent
> or company they would recommend?
> Or even a company that should be avoided?
> TIA
>
>
> BTW: No homeowner claims in over 10 years and just one minor fender bender
> in the last year and No tickets. Also, I'm in Texas
>

Get a rate quote from Electric Insurance http://www.electricinsurance.com/

For me their auto insurance rates are lower than the rates quoted by
Progressive and GEICO.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 1:15 pm
From: Lamumba


maybe I was abducted by space aliens for exactly an hour. I dunno. that
hour is gone, I don't remember what happened.
--
Karma, What a concept!


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 7:08 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)


In article <georgeswk-674480.12154813032011@news.toast.net>,
Lamumba <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:
>maybe I was abducted by space aliens for exactly an hour. I dunno. that
>hour is gone, I don't remember what happened.

Don't worry, an earthquake gave you back a microsecond or so. Which
tends to indicate that orbital mechanics aren't reliable for keeping
time.

Also that there's no such thing a s a fixed point on this planet (it
moved the north island 2.4 meters).


Gary


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 13 2011 1:17 pm
From: Lamumba

Joy of parenthood is a fantasy: Psychologists say cost of children
forces mothers and
fathers to convince themselves it's worthwhile

By Fiona Macrae


Most parents say they wouldn�t have it any other way.


But according to scientists, they would say that, wouldn�t they?
A walk in the park? Children cause parents financial hardship, eat up
their time and cause
untold worry... but mums and dads insist they are worth every penny,
wrinkle and grey
hair... but they would say that according to scientists


Bringing up a child in the 21st century is so expensive parents have no
option but to tell
themselves it is all worthwhile, they say.

In times gone by, there was no need to idealise parenthood because
children would begin
working at an early age and provide for their parents.

But today this �reward� is not as likely. So parents have to invent
other justifications
for the trials of having children, the Canadian researchers say. For
their experiment, the
psychologists gave three groups of parents passages about the economic
cost of parenting
to read.

One group was given sheets that focused on the financial layout and
included a U.S.
government calculation that it costs �120,000, on average, to raise a
child.

Others were given the same figure but told that parents are often more
financially secure
in old age because their children support them.

The remainder read a passage that had nothing to do with costs.

The men and women, who all had at least one child under 18, were then
questioned about how
much they idealised parenting.

They were asked whether they believed it possible to be truly happy
without having
children � and whether parents are happier and more satisfied with their
lives than
childless couples.

Finally, they were asked to rate spending time with their children
against meeting friends
or their partner and how much time they hoped to spend with their
children on their next
day off work.

Those who read about the financial hardship idealised parenting the
most. They were more
likely to say they enjoyed spending time with their children. This group
also said that
they intended to spend more time with their children on their day off,
the journal
Psychological Science reports.

A similar experiment using different parents backed up the theory that
mothers and fathers
idealise parenthood to justify the costs of bringing up a family.

The researchers, from the University of Waterloo, in Ontario, said: �The
motivation to
rationalise the costs of parenting apparently not only increases
parents� idealisation of
parenthood, but also leads them to believe that spending time with their
children is more
rewarding than other activities. This belief then motivates parents to
want to spend more
time with their children.�

They say the belief is likely to have gained currency as parenthood has
become more
costly. Put bluntly, today�s children leave home later and have
expensive tastes � making
it more important for parents to justify their existence.

Cynical as the theory is, it may have its advantages.

Wray Herbert, of the Association for Psychological Science, said: �We
may be uneasy
thinking of our families as dollars and cents but bank accounts don�t
lie. If knowing the
bottom line makes us want to spend more time on kids instead of, say, TV
or golf or work,
that sounds like a healthy bargain for all involved.�

However, Siobhan Freegard, of the parenting advice website Netmums, said
that if
parenthood was as bad as the study suggests, most couples would stop at
one child.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1362784/Psychologists-say-
cost-children-forces-mothers-fathers-convince-worthwhile.html


=====
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--
Karma, What a concept!


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* There are several methods, using different techniques and attacking
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* Do desktop computers use more electricity than laptops? - 2 messages, 2
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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 12:09 am
From: aesthete8


???????????????????????


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 12:43 am
From: "Rod Speed"


aesthete8 wrote:

> ???????????????????????

Yes, usually.

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TOPIC: Let's take Key West as model city and see how bicycles fare
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/590ce85d972721d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 7:22 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"


It's not Holland, it's not China. It's still America, and it has a
culture of its own in which the bicycle has a great role. How dumb is
it to use any other vehicle within a community but a bicycle. Scooters
and EVs also abound and they are certainly welcome. But bicycles are
everywhere, bike lanes or not.

This is an important point as cyclists of different stripes argue
endlessly whether bike lanes are good or bad. The answer is right
there in Key West for all to see: Some streets have bike lanes that
get used, and the rental of the hotel comes with the bike --your
ticket to explore beautiful Key West. But bicycles are everywhere
beyond those bike lanes. The key to success is that, I think, the
authorities have an active role in enforcing speed limits --for real,
not for profit-- and people have a "sense of community." Without those
two factors, we are just fighting for survival.

I just sense freedom down there. Even SUVs are cautious and gentle.
Too many homeless spoil paradise, but that's impossible to fight when
they come from all over the nation. Homelessness is a problem related
to cycling as they often ride bikes and we are taken for one of them,
which is sometimes related to the panniers or trailer we carry.

Even bike paradise --the Netherlands-- has a problem out of control
that Key West doesn't have: bicycle theft. You don't feel paranoid
about your bicycle and someone stealing your tire or seat if not your
bicycle. I see poor South Miami Beach residents removing their seats
while falling into another pitfall they are unaware of: rain goes down
the tube and rusts your bike and bottom bracket.

I'm unusually talkative today, but I must hit the sand with my beach
cruiser, and we must recap the lessons from Key West:

1- Lane or no line we can have a bicycle culture. Often a combination
of the two works best,

2- We must tame traffic,

3- We don't need homeless,

4- We don't need bike theft,

5- Gays bring bicycles to town (not sure about this one, but we must
learn from them that MAKING NOISE and being colorful is a strategy for
survival). ;)


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TOPIC: University Medical Center Tucson Advertising
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 10:20 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u08ruFdvcU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Rod Speed once again wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for
dead


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 10:35 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 1:12 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u1sniFpktU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Rod Speed once again wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for
dead


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 5:06 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 7:34 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <8u2jl4Fr0gU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Rod Speed once again wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for
dead


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 7:53 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote just the peurile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead

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TOPIC: Homerowners and Auto Ins.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7a3ac5b39328f028?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 3:49 pm
From: "Poppy"


Has anyone else seen an increase in their homeowners and auto policies?
My homeowners went up $125 while they decreased the replacement value by
$11,000.
My auto went from $931 to $1337. Both are with Hartford.
Needless to say I'm shopping them, so does anyone have an INDEPENDENT agent
or company they would recommend?
Or even a company that should be avoided?
TIA


BTW: No homeowner claims in over 10 years and just one minor fender bender
in the last year and No tickets. Also, I'm in Texas

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 7:35 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <iETep.85021$qd6.55035@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
"Poppy" <nospam@nospam> wrote:

> Has anyone else seen an increase in their homeowners and auto policies?
> My homeowners went up $125 while they decreased the replacement value by
> $11,000.
> My auto went from $931 to $1337. Both are with Hartford.
> Needless to say I'm shopping them, so does anyone have an INDEPENDENT agent
> or company they would recommend?
> Or even a company that should be avoided?
> TIA
>
>
> BTW: No homeowner claims in over 10 years and just one minor fender bender
> in the last year and No tickets. Also, I'm in Texas

Ameriprise, especially if you belong to Costco


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