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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 7 2010 9:04 pm
From: aesthete8

Is that really worth it?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 6:36 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 11/07/10 21:04, aesthete8 wrote:

> Is that really worth it?

Only if what you want has a really good price. The stores are getting
more efficient about handing out vouchers to line-standers before the
store opens, thus avoiding possible trampling and mauling to get to the
especially good bargains. Organize with friends to get stuff at
different stores -- you generally get only one chance -- the second
store you go to will probably be out of what you want unless your friend
hid it in an unlikely place. Yeah, that happens sometimes.

--
Cheers, Bev
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"You know that I could go on the Internet right now under my
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email me a picture of their scrotum. I tell you, this country gave
the finger to privacy a long time ago." -- Bill Maher

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 9:57 pm
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<55a099e5-4eff-4f3b-aafd-04101626aa2f@p20g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
aesthete8 <artsy6@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is that really worth it?

Not to me, but everyone has their own unique requirements.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 5:52 am
From: George

On 11/7/2010 10:50 PM, Gordon wrote:
> noel888<harri85274@aol.com> wrote in news:8527ced7-b299-4f68-bf2d-
> 898793546689@p7g2000prb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Could someone tell me are they too good to be true item? I woke this
>> morning to a informercial where they promised that one only pays $3.95
>> per month usage. Just plug any phone into your pc usb port anywhere in
>> the united states. The show the connection of a landline phone that
>> has at home those phone cords, but how does one use a cellphone..which
>> they did not show, but said 'even a cellphone' can be used. Its free
>> to try for a month. I remember when it first came out, where i read
>> that there is no phone support.
>
> I briefly considered the Magic Jack when I switched to VoIP. But
> I didn't like the fact that I would have to have a computer running
> all the time to use the phone. That was a deal killer. What I
> wanted (and what I got) was a VoIP service that used an ATA that
> connected my phones directly to my network. I have heard of some
> people that have an old laptop dedicated to the Magic Jack.
>

I did the same thing. I wanted to keep our old house number so I ported
it to a real VoIP provider.

> Type "VoIP Providers" into Google and see what comes up.
>
> FWIW: If you have a Wi-Fi router, you can get wi-fi handsets that are
> designed to work with Vonage and Skype. If it's Vonage or Skype
> that you want.
>
> The only problem that I have had with my VoIP service is that
> sometimes the delay is too long and the echo cancelers can't
> handle it. At those times I get complaints of far end echo,
> or a phone tree starts responding to it'self.

I have to say that our VoIP line works exceptionally well.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 8:03 am
From: Mrs Irish Mike

On Nov 7, 12:06 pm, noel888 <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
> Could someone tell me are they too good to be true item? I woke this
> morning to a informercial where they promised that one only pays $3.95
> per month usage. Just plug any phone into your pc usb port anywhere in
> the united states. The show the connection of a landline phone that
> has at home those phone cords, but how does one use a cellphone..which
> they did not show, but said 'even a cellphone' can be used. Its free
> to try for a month. I remember when it first came out, where i read
> that there is no phone support.

It's not $3.95 a month, it's $20 a year, or $69 for five years, which
is a little over a buck a month!

I've had MagicJack for more than 2 years now. For twenty bucks a year
you can't beat it. I wouldn't use it as my primary land-line, but for
a second line it works great. I cut my traditional land-line to very
basic local calling and use MJ for long distance and as an extra phone
when the land-line is tied up. Sometimes I have to call back because
the quality is bad. And if you are running too many programs on the
computer the quality does suck. Caller ID and call waiting are good
features that are included. I have never gotten a phone solicitor on
the MJ. Neat thing is it is the size of a gum package, and you can
take it with you and use it as a phone from your lap-top or any other
computer as long as you have internet.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 3:46 pm
From: Patricia Martin Steward

On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 13:48:50 -0800 (PST), noel888 <harri85274@aol.com>
wrote:
>On Nov 7, 4:21�pm, Patricia Martin Steward <pats...@noteranews.com>
>wrote:
>>
>> A simple web search would have revealed that they are, indeed, too
>> good to be true.
>
>well, i did the search first,and apparently i didn't find what you
>must have found...give a link if you still have it.

That was a long time ago, so I don't have a link -- I just input
"magic jack" into dogpile.com and followed the links that were
discussions about whether it really works.

I just did the same and got the following:

http://magic-jack.pissedconsumer.com/

www.ripoffreport.com/Computer-Fraud/Magic-Jack/magic-jack-warning-dont-buy-in-4cgcb.htm

www.voipreview.org/review/magicjack

A lot of the other links were to various Magic Jack websites or sites
devoted to selling Magic Jack, so they're useless.

I started the same search on Bing, but one of the options that popped
up was "magic jack complaints." That should speak volumes.

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We are becoming a country that believes the rich have earned their money but the well educated have not
earned their intellectual superiority. This leads to a nation that idolizes Kardashians.
Joel Stein, TIME, 8/23/10

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 6:39 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

(See, now I hit Ed and by the time he reacts the whole world knows
about it. They also know he's a clown without a good act)

On Nov 8, 1:53 am, Etienne Marais <etienne.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 10:56 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
> of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 7, 3:30 pm, Etienne Marais <etienne.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 7, 5:14 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
> > > of the Jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 6, 4:46 am, Etienne Marais <etienne.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Nov 6, 10:07 am, Etienne Marais <etienne.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > SA must create multiple spaces, without Apartheid, without Gated
> > > > > > > Communities... with one priority in mind: SAFETY.
>
> > > > > > But who lives where ?
>
> > > > > Personally I think if different cultures live in
> > > > > differnet areas things will be much better
>
> > > > Don't believe it's not that way in America, where things are supposed
> > > > to have been fixed a long time ago. You still don't find blacks in
> > > > white areas, unless they are something like a personality.
>
> > > > In nature each species get to stick together. I do not believe though
> > > > that one species is better than the other. Now if you leave
> > > > voluntarily the South African project and start a white nation, what
> > > > do you do with your riches?
>
> > > How do you mean ? Rather than a white nation, say an Afrikaner
> > > nation.
>
> > > Well, I build infrastructure and ensure proper education, I make sure
> > > that there are plenty of symbols and structures to remind the nation
> > > of its identity, heritage, history and pride. Under a strong system of
> > > nationhood and hard work, building not demanding, there is room for
> > > social services (look at the Scandinavian countries) to uplift the
> > > nation.
>
> > Either they fix the jungle or you guys leave. Create your own
> > homeland.
>
> Willing to leave if there is no hope, don't know about Zuma
> but Thabo Mbeki gave the impression that he does not want
> skilled whites to leave. As for a homeland, most certainly,
> but the government would never grant us our own homeland.
>
> > But I'm all for union, but when it doesn't work, doesn't work. ;)
>
> Yah, I don't understand you guys, you have a (English?)
> heritage too, why not build on that whilst respecting
> other nations ?

Well, don't expect major changes in SAfrican politics so long as
American politics are not so much better. We are facing a Global
Jungle under the name of Globalization and few countries escape from
it.

I have made noise at the local level and nobody says a word of
dissent. The sheep are happy with what they got. Only hope is to go
international and look for the weakest link in the chain.

ARE THEY READY FOR THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY?

The Wise TibetanMonkey is not at all like the Wise Tibetan Monks
praying for peace. The Tibetan Monkey goes into the Jungle with three
weapons:

1- The Truth,

2- The Banana (WMD or weapon of mass distraction),

3- A Bag of Shit (to throw at the system and expose the lies).

But the main weapon is the inspiration from the REALITY of the jungle,
not mental masturbation like Jesus. The Spirits of the Jungle are with
me.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 6:59 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 8, 9:25 am, Etienne Marais <etienne.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 4:22 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
> of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 9:02 am, Etienne Marais <etienne.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 8, 3:54 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
> > > of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 8, 1:58 am, Etienne Marais <etienne.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I see. Now, do you know the guy I'm talking about? He's a trumpet
> > > > > > player or something.
>
> > > > > Afraid I don't know him.
>
> > > > I'm trying to find him, but see what I came across. The government is
> > > > afraid of Dalai Lama! Not very liberal government....
>
> > > > The South African government is under fire for denying a visa to the
> > > > Dalai Lama. The Tibetan spiritual leader was invited to the region for
> > > > a peace conference promoting the 2010 World Cup.
>
> > > >http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102374047
>
> > > Yeah, I remember this. Why would the ANC deny
> > > a man from a country which is under threat from
> > > Communists a visa ? The answer is not that hard !
>
> > They would be even more afraid of the Wise TibetanMonkey and with a
> > reason! ;)
>
> > Let me tell you, I'd expect government officials to live in humble
> > ways (ie. no SUVs or large salaries). They are not even doing their
> > job and lying.
>
> > The ones that don't, would be exposed as "lions of the jungle" (notice
> > lie in li-on).- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You are insulting lions :) Lions hunt for the pride and work together,
> the corrupt ANC work for themselves.

The ANC top elite is now the King of the Jungle. Everything that goes
bad in it goes back to them. If they grow too fat and try to secure
their "lion's share" they are suspect of being predatory.

Sorry my two favorite subjects are REVOLUTIONS BETRAYED (see Animal
Farm) and THE ENVIRONMENT. We need a revolution in the world but not
the wrong kind. We need humble people who don't drive SUVs and
surround themselves with the symbols of power. People who can do
honest mistakes, but not lie to get to power. The lie makes you a li-
on.

I just replied this...

On Nov 8, 9:35 am, "Mike" <mikehu...@lycos.com> wrote:
> That's nothing new, climate change has been happen in this world from day
> one. What color is the "rain" in your world?
>
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4dd0ef1f-4b27-4992-aca4-7bd58a54300b@c20g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 7, 3:57 pm, "Mike" <mikehu...@lycos.com> wrote:
> >> What color is the sky in your world?
>
> > It's raining. And it will be more stormy as Climate Change sets in.

Sorry, I didn't know you considered MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE to be a
conspiracy. I also expected that you knew driving an Stupid
Unnecessary Vehicle creates a larger carbon footprint. It's kind of
common sense, but not everyone has it.

***

My fight is for the environment and endangered species in particular.
I wished I was doing something but I'm forced to sit at the keyboard
because it's a jungle out there. The simple act of RIDING A BICYCLE is
not possible. The HOMELESS occupy our best public places. What's a
monkey in the cage to do? Right, throw shit! ;)

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 12:33 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 8, 3:02 pm, Deidzoeb <deidz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The thing is to lay out the SOLUTIONS that even a monkey can follow...
>
> I read some kind of anarchist article suggesting that if we organize
> communities well enough and they thrive and become really successful,
> there would be no need to persuade other people or lobby to change the
> system or society or the govt, because people would want to copy those
> techniques and make their own communities successful and thriving.
> Awesome theory, but I'm afraid some people are so dumb they wouldn't
> notice, or so greedy they'd want to keep being capitalists.

The thing, my friend, is the capitalist lion doesn't want competition.
Too many of those tired of our communities breaking down would rather
live in a kibbutz or similar enterprise. One thing we can do is fund
and educate the people with Credit Union funds, which is people's
money anyway. Imagine that possibility for those surviving at the edge
in Mexico. Hey, but there would be no cheap labor for America!

Here's the lion...

THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE

Once upon a time, in the deep jungle, lived a Lion and a Monkey... One
day the Monkey, tired of the Lion taking the LION'S SHARE, and seeing
that such injustice represented a danger to all, demanded JUSTICE...
The Lion, yawning and stretching, said, "You would have to have paws
and sharp teeth..." Then the Monkey, who was very clever, devised a
plan: He would go to the costume store, and look like a lion...

When the HUNGRY LION saw him, noticing that the new lion wasn't a
match for him, and fearing COMPETITION, killed him on the spot --
before the indifferent look of the little animals of the jungle... And
that's how the Law of the Jungle was re-established one more time...
(NOTE: Other monkeys survived him...)

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 5:05 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"
[...]
> The thing, my friend, is the capitalist lion doesn't want competition.
> Too many of those tired of our communities breaking down would rather
> live in a kibbutz or similar enterprise. One thing we can do is fund
> and educate the people with Credit Union funds, which is people's
> money anyway. Imagine that possibility for those surviving at the edge
> in Mexico. Hey, but there would be no cheap labor for America!
>
> Here's the lion...
>
> THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE
>
> Once upon a time, in the deep jungle, lived a Lion and a Monkey... One
> day the Monkey, tired of the Lion taking the LION'S SHARE, and seeing
> that such injustice represented a danger to all, demanded JUSTICE...
> The Lion, yawning and stretching, said, "You would have to have paws
> and sharp teeth..." Then the Monkey, who was very clever, devised a
> plan: He would go to the costume store, and look like a lion...
>
> When the HUNGRY LION saw him, noticing that the new lion wasn't a
> match for him, and fearing COMPETITION, killed him on the spot --
> before the indifferent look of the little animals of the jungle... And
> that's how the Law of the Jungle was re-established one more time...
> (NOTE: Other monkeys survived him...)

TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
like a poor crazy bastard. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
It is mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot even
if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 6:38 pm
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>
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 6:44 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 11/08/10 18:38, Nick Naim wrote:

> <fred1079@webtv.net> wrote in message
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