Monday, September 20, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 6 new messages in 3 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Yet another preventable death blamed on SUVs? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d4ac409df10b343c?hl=en
* Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d833df279e38cde8?hl=en
* when insurance savings isn't savings at all - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1b41ac1c2b96c826?hl=en

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TOPIC: Yet another preventable death blamed on SUVs?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d4ac409df10b343c?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 6:52 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Opus" <opusthepoet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6f1fa496-a9b4-45c0-b5a9-24a8ece3372c@q9g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 19, 2:38 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>snip quoted material<
> So TM is right. So what?
>
> He has been posting the same old shit over over for at least a year now.
> Every day it is a new posting on the same old subject. That is the sort of
> thing that destroys small newsgroups. He is a spammer pure and simple. It
> is
> irrelevant whether he is right or not. He is a crashing bore and a
> simpleton. And if you take him seriously, then you are too.
>
> You should have posted your above message as an original subject separate
> from him if you wanted anyone to read it. Everyone has kill-filed TM
> because
> he is nothing but a g.d. nuisance.

>> I guess you weren't there when they were doing the lessons on teaching
to dummies. Repetition is the key to learning, over and over again
until it sinks in. One could post the same thing about you and your
use of swear words.

"He has been posting the same old shit over and over for at least a year
now.
Every day it is a new posting on the same old subject. That is the sort of
hing that destroys small newsgroups. He is a spammer pure and simple." - Ed
Dolan

>> I take TM seriously because what he posts jibes with my observations
on my daily rides. I don't agree with his similes about jungles and
bananas, but his direct statements are factual and from my experience
truthful. Note that factual and truthful are not the same thing,
factual means testable in the real world, truthful means a fact that
has tested true under at least one circumstance.

"So TM is right. So what?" - Ed Dolan

It is clear to me that you have not been following the discussions on the
above newsgroups. As a parttime interloper, you have no standing to know
what is going on. I suggest you either get up to speed or get the hell out
of here.

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 8:38 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 19, 9:30 am, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/18/2010 11:29 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > On Sep 18, 8:17 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 9/18/2010 8:55 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey&  the Spirits of
>
> >> the Jungle wrote:
> >>> On Sep 18, 9:28 am, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com>    wrote:
> >>>> On 9/18/2010 12:21 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey&    the Spirits of
>
> >>>> the Jungle wrote:
> >>>>> On Sep 17, 3:06 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com>      wrote:
> >>>>>> On 9/17/2010 11:22 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey&      the Spirits of
>
> >>>>>> the Jungle wrote:
> >>>>>>> Unless you believe in fate or in God killing at random (say to join
> >>>>>>> his army of angels), you realize that the law of physics (superior
> >>>>>>> mass) as well as the point of impact (height of the bumpers) make a
> >>>>>>> killing combination for most mortals. This is no ordinary game or a
> >>>>>>> rehearsal of the real thing. This is it...
>
> >>>>>>> (I quote from the daily news)
>
> >>>>>>> Brian Wood spent his life thrilling millions of faceless gamers, but
> >>>>>>> his last moment was spent saving the lives of those he loved most.
>
> >>>>>>> Wood, a 33 year-old lead designer at popular game developer Relic
> >>>>>>> Entertainment, was on his way back to his Washington home when his
> >>>>>>> wagon was struck by an oncoming Chevy Blazer being driven by a 21 year-
> >>>>>>> old woman believed to be driving under the influence. With his
> >>>>>>> pregnant wife Erin in the passenger seat, Wood swerved his car to put
> >>>>>>> himself directly in the path of the oncoming SUV -- a decision that
> >>>>>>> ultimately cost him his life, but protected his wife and unborn child
> >>>>>>> from harm. Two other passengers riding in the backseat of the Blazer
> >>>>>>> were also killed.
>
> >>>>>>> "All the policeman say that if we had hit the car head-on all of us
> >>>>>>> would be dead," Erin Wood told The Province. "At the very last second
> >>>>>>> (Brian) braked really hard and turned right so that he would be put in
> >>>>>>> the path of the SUV and not me and the baby, and that is the only
> >>>>>>> thing that saved us both."
>
> >>>>>>>http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/gamers-lend-support-to-...
>
> >>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>>>>> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> >>>>>>> "Don't give some monkeys overwhelming tools which can kill other
> >>>>>>> monkeys"
>
> >>>>>>> "WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE"
>
> >>>>>>>http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote
>
> >>>>>> Seems more the fault of the drunk guy behind the wheel than anything else.
>
> >>>>> Not if she had been driving a Smart...
>
> >>>>> On Sep 17, 4:23 pm, Larry<no...@home.com>      wrote:
> >>>>>> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey&      the Spirits of the Jungle"
> >>>>>> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>      wrote innews:dc473a54-6e7c-4d8a-85a6-534df7388800@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>>>>>> "All the policeman say that if we had hit the car head-on all of us
> >>>>>>> would be dead," Erin Wood told The Province. "At the very last second
> >>>>>>> (Brian) braked really hard and turned right so that he would be put in
> >>>>>>> the path of the SUV and not me and the baby, and that is the only
> >>>>>>> thing that saved us both."
>
> >>>>>>    From the dead bodies in the SUV, whos top cannot support the weight of a
> >>>>>> typical SUV loaded with people, I'd say you were no safer in it than the
> >>>>>> wagon.
>
> >>>>>> Compare my Smart's crash tests vs a Mercedes S-class sedan.
>
> >>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPdEWLnAQr0
>
> >>>>>> Note the driver's legs weren't crushed and the Trition Safety Cell remains
> >>>>>> intact.
>
> >>>>>> Well, I'm off to dinner in it.  I hope I survive....(c;]
>
> >>>>> The dummies in the bigger cars are a problem for the smart people who
> >>>>> drive small cars.
>
> >>>>> That's the moral of the story, right?
>
> >>>> If he were driving sober and he had an H2, this probably would've never
> >>>> happened. What was the game designer driving? Perhaps if he was in a
> >>>> Volvo or even a large car or SUV he would've survived. The Smart's
> >>>> alleged safety isn't as great as it's touted to be. In crash tests it's
> >>>> hitting a static object. In the real world there's a high chance you'll
> >>>> hit another, almost certainly larger car/truck, you cannot engineer your
> >>>> way out of the laws of physics.
>
> >>> H2 and CELL PHONE seem to go together to create the worst possible
> >>> combination out there, yet it's perfectly legal and practiced by la
> >>> creme de la creme in our society. For every driver that is drunk or
> >>> high, there are 100 killing time on the phone. And it's more dangerous
> >>> than DUI as proven by Mythbusters.
>
> >> Although I share your sentient regarding cell phone usage and driving. I
> >> don't see how it's relevant to the story you posted about the game
> >> designer getting killed by a drunk driver.
>
> > SUV drivers are affected more by their use of the phone than by booze
> > or drugs. Don't dwell on the role of drugs in this particular accident
> > when the vehicle is a greater risk by virtue of their sheer size and
> > reckless drivers.
>
> > I'm trying to address the problem the SUVs present to all other
> > vehicles, including bikes and pedestrians.
>
> You know there are also some cars that weigh as much as mid-sized SUV's.
>   Crown Vics/Grand Marquis , The Dodge Challenger, MB S-Class, Some
> Cadillacs,  and most pickup trucks as well. Yet you don't seem to be
> demonizing them. Why is that?

Higher bumpers is one reason the SUV is the vehicle of choice of the
Devil. There's no known defenses against that other than another SUV.

Besides the really BIG TOYS weigh twice as much as those cars above.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 8:40 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 19, 6:52 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Opus" <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6f1fa496-a9b4-45c0-b5a9-24a8ece3372c@q9g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 19, 2:38 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> >snip quoted material<
> > So TM is right. So what?
>
> > He has been posting the same old shit over over for at least a year now.
> > Every day it is a new posting on the same old subject. That is the sort of
> > thing that destroys small newsgroups. He is a spammer pure and simple. It
> > is
> > irrelevant whether he is right or not. He is a crashing bore and a
> > simpleton. And if you take him seriously, then you are too.
>
> > You should have posted your above message as an original subject separate
> > from him if you wanted anyone to read it. Everyone has kill-filed TM
> > because
> > he is nothing but a g.d. nuisance.
> >> I guess you weren't there when they were doing the lessons on teaching
>
> to dummies. Repetition is the key to learning, over and over again
> until it sinks in. One could post the same thing about you and your
> use of swear words.
>
> "He has been posting the same old shit over and over for at least a year
> now.
> Every day it is a new posting on the same old subject. That is the sort of
> hing that destroys small newsgroups. He is a spammer pure and simple." - Ed
> Dolan
>
> >> I take TM seriously because what he posts jibes with my observations
>
> on my daily rides. I don't agree with his similes about jungles and
> bananas, but his direct statements are factual and from my experience
> truthful. Note that factual and truthful are not the same thing,
> factual means testable in the real world, truthful means a fact that
> has tested true under at least one circumstance.
>
> "So TM is right. So what?" -  Ed Dolan
>
> It is clear to me that you have not been following the discussions on the
> above newsgroups. As a parttime interloper, you have no standing to know
> what is going on. I suggest you either get up to speed or get the hell out
> of here.
>
> Fucking Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Ed, I acknowledge you are the greatest spammer here and since you want
to be remembered by posterity, you leave me alone.

How do you think you'll be remember?

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TOPIC: Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d833df279e38cde8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 6:59 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cb156b1b-676f-4687-a0d6-29bcf6cc17ef@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 18, 8:03 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]

> but I will not talk to a stalker like you.

>> AND, you are doing what then exactly?

What I am doing, exactly, is dismissing you, but you are too self-absorbed
to know when you are not welcome.
[...]

> You can stop stalking me any time you want and I assure you no one else on
> these newsgroups will ever miss you. Unlike you, I find plenty of others
> to
> engage in interesting discussions.

>> I'm just telling you what others have told you over time. You weren't
missed any of the times you left, so why come back? Copy and paste is
not engaging others in discussion. You don't have discussions. You
proselytize. There is no give and take. With you, it is your way or
the highway. You are a bore!

All you will ever get from me is more of the same. Don't like it? Then
leave!

> > Regards,
>
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 7:05 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:01ee1905-70af-4a95-8fbc-464a7183fae1@h25g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 18, 8:20 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> Low class Irish culture is the worst in the world and Irish drinking songs
> are the pits. I am lace curtain Irish and want nothing to do with the
> dregs
> of that abominable culture. Like James Joyce, anyone of intelligence could
> not get out of Ireland fast enough.
>
> The popular Irish song and dance that is imported to this country is a
> disgrace. I literally run from it as I would the Devil. Sometimes I am
> embarrassed to be of Irish ancestry.

>> Ed is referring to shanty Irish, but he is beneath that being pig-shit
Irish. I too am ashamed that Dolan is of Irish ancestry.

McNamara is not really Irish at all. He is a dumb Pole. Chicago is well
known as being a safe harbor for dumb Poles. His wife is most likely a dumb
Pole too.

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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TOPIC: when insurance savings isn't savings at all
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1b41ac1c2b96c826?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 11:35 pm
From: "h"

The OP is a tax-evading douchebag whose biggest insurance problem is his
speed-demon wife. He'll never get a decent rate for a combined cars/house
policy as long as he's with a speeder who racks up points. Sucks to be him.
For many, many reasons. Too many kids, law-breaking wife, no imagination,
desperately fly-over-state mentality, etc.


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