Wednesday, April 29, 2015

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21blackswan@gmail.com: Apr 29 09:58AM -0700

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 9:21:54 AM UTC-8, KenK wrote:
 
> --
> You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
> when something closes the door from the inside.
 
you might try Clark Howard com for tips
 
marc
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Tuesday, April 28, 2015

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KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Apr 28 05:21PM

Is there a simple way to get a credit report? I looked at
 
AnnualCreditReport.com
 
and they make it look quite difficult.
 
I looked at a report not that many years ago and it was a simple process
but I've now forgotten how I did it. Evidently things have changed.
 
Comments? TIA.
 
--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.
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Monday, April 27, 2015

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lenona321@yahoo.com: Apr 27 12:40PM -0700

According to MRA Ian Ironwood (not his real name, of course).
 
First of all, this is a guy who doesn't really believe that childfree (as
opposed to childless) women really exist. However, he seems to imply
that even the average childfree woman won't be able to retire without
a husband's financial support. Why? Because since she's female, she will
have made too many stupid spending decisions when she was younger. (Note
the last sentence from the excerpts.) So, even an infirm elderly man can
pay for all his needs because men are ALWAYS smart enough to be rich in
advance, while women never manage to do that? I wonder. Somehow, if
Ironwood's argument were anywhere near true (regarding childfree women,
at least) you'd think it would be in the news by now.
 
To wit:
 
http://theredpillroom.blogspot.com/2012/03/if-women-dont-need-man-these-days-how.html
 
Excerpts:
 
...there is a difference between being able to support yourself at
a subsistence level and actually thriving in our society. As Badger
points out, women tend to do better, personally, in two-income households.
As a single woman in a blue or pink collar job, the cost of basic
living expenses and the "feminine supplies" implicit in being a
girl (cosmetics, health-and-beauty, twice as much underwear, birth
control, feminine hygiene supplies, 8.2 assloads of shoes), there is
precious little left with which to advance either the poor girl's
education and training or her standard of living. Call this the
"Laverne and Shirley" mode. As a young single woman you have a job
that pays for your basement apartment and food, and you work part time
for pizza-and-beer-and-gossip-mags money. This is "subsistence living,
industrial style".
 
Add even a single child to this equation and suddenly you're in poverty.
 
Luckily (for women) there are plenty of service jobs that pay slightly
more than the blue/pink collar jobs out there. As long as a young woman
pays for all of her necessities and is thoughtful and careful about
her spending, she should be able not just support herself, but to
gradually improve her standard of living and/or invest in her education.
 
Of course the number of young women who understand budgeting and saving
and investment - not to mention thoughtful and careful spending - is
so statistically small so that what usually happens (according to a
veteran financial planner friend of mine - I got nerds) is that the young
lady in question racks up a lot of debt early on and ends up using up most
of her expendable income in finance charges...
 
...I know a dude I went to High School with who skipped college, turned
his tech skills into a full-time data management job at a hospital, and by
the time the rest of us were struggling to graduate and living at home, he
had moved out of his shitty apartment and bought a house. At 23. By 25
he cashed in his equity and appreciation and upgraded. I don't know of
a single female peer who showed as much financial initiative. Indeed,
three of my wife's friends from HS had filed for bankruptcy by the time
they were 25.
 
So being a woman who can make her own money is great . . . as long as
she doesn't care about her own future or want children. You go, girl!
 
(snip)
 
 
Sheesh.
 
 
Lenona.
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Sunday, April 26, 2015

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 2 topics

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Apr 26 10:43AM -0700

Thunderbird (free, hence frugal) has been refusing to originate x-postx
recently, claiming that I can't post to different servers even though
I'm attempting to post to two groups with the same server.
 
I can follow up to x-posted messages, which are transmitted to all
groups. I just can't originate them.
 
Unless a miracle suddenly happened, in which case ignore the previous
message.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
=====================================
Snowmen fall from Heaven unassembled.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Apr 26 02:07PM -0700

> do it, you'll just have to turn the oven up to 450 degrees - without
> lighting it up, and stick your head in and breathe deeply. That's how
> bad life is without TB.
 
I'd never switch. I've used it since it was Netscape .9. Before that I
used pine.
 
There's no setting, it just for some reason thought every once in a
while (for betwen 6 months and a year) that different newsgroups
belonged to different newsservers. Apparently OK now. Or at least
until I try to post this :-(
 
--
Ch rs,
B v
=======================================
My f ck ng k yb rd h s l st ts v w ls.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Apr 26 02:08PM -0700


> Er, don't turn on the oven. Your posts showed up in both groups.
 
> Gee, I may have saved a life. That's my good deed for the year. Now
> I can go back to beating the wife and kids.
 
I'm sure they missed you. Tell them I said Hey.
 
> Thanks!
 
Any time. We're here to help.
 
 
--
Ch rs,
B v
=======================================
My f ck ng k yb rd h s l st ts v w ls.
sam@the.tavern.on.the.stool.drunk: Apr 26 01:54PM -0500

On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 10:43:06 -0700, The Real Bev
>groups. I just can't originate them.
 
>Unless a miracle suddenly happened, in which case ignore the previous
>message.
 
A setting got changed by accident or mistake, or it got corrupted.
 
Check your settings *carefully*. If they are okay, you should save
what you need from it and uninstall and reinstall TB. If that doesn't
do it, you'll just have to turn the oven up to 450 degrees - without
lighting it up, and stick your head in and breathe deeply. That's how
bad life is without TB.
sam@the.tavern.on.the.stool.drunk: Apr 26 01:58PM -0500

On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 10:43:06 -0700, The Real Bev
>groups. I just can't originate them.
 
>Unless a miracle suddenly happened, in which case ignore the previous
>message.
 
Er, don't turn on the oven. Your posts showed up in both groups.
 
Gee, I may have saved a life. That's my good deed for the year. Now
I can go back to beating the wife and kids.
 
Thanks!
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Saturday, April 25, 2015

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ganlin19922@gmail.com: Apr 25 04:06AM -0700

I know you don't believe, but I said is true is true
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Beg you to intervene, I am sure that is true, as long as closer watching me, it's easy to see two people, I am a person every day in me to hurt me badly miserably, say to want to use my idea to kill all of us, my life every day in pain
 
 
 
I am a Chinese, my name is Lin, I was a can read thinking of instrument and control apparatus of the body, by the people to hurt me I want to, think of this technique can read read brain brain using high technology around the world use is not obvious idea put to death all over the world, he USES the science and technology is like one hundred years ago in China, backward and ignorant people with advanced science and technology, and he is the latest technology, such as viruses, such as neutron bomb, backward instrumentation undetectable, the cure of virus of slow type discovered late, we are poisoning can read thinking know many times stronger than we think, super brain, used against us, control my instrument not only can read thinking is there any other function, such as control of the body (mouth), you can use my mouth to say my privacy, he can the coerce people to listen to him, there's a better way is to use high-tech means to find drugs such as listen to his words, used to secretly to kill us. My QQ space there are a lot of related data, address: http://user.qzone.qq.com/331621436/
must not mental illness, I'm sure someone remote reading my brain every day I want to, who also couldn't think of this instrument to every day can be with you all don't know, unguarded read brain this magic is aware of all scientists around the world under the function of memory, you can even find the technology to make it super brain think idea secretly use technology to kill all of us, such as the latest general instruments look not to come out of the virus, even scientists know that a successful in theory can force others to study.
 
 
 
My QQ space is harmful to me with my mouth and say we kill the recording,Easily recognized is another man looked at me and want to use my mouth tease me and I dialogue, I ignored him, I must have been another long-distance monitoring me so much, every day the world didn't offend him he wanted to kill all of us just happy, just like I didn't offend him he also want to torture me so much every day, every day fear me
 
*
*I this instrument and other victims are not the same,a lot of brain co kill all of us, I was the only this one can be put to death all over the world, I'm sure
 
*Can read brain know all high-tech weapons, this instrument can I use mouth to privacy privacy to coerce people get high-tech weapons, I think this instrument can be aggressive idea, can use technology to get super brain. Can use technology to get to hear his words of medicine and so on This instrument on behalf of the science and technology and intelligence.
*I beseech you to tell the world is a beast with a reading meter to harm the brain and to the various countries all have hidden in the crowd of the people know the brain is a ruin, don't do was framed by his way to a country, should pay close attention to read the government don't want disorderly guess to brain, if the dog killed perhaps the world is likely to read brain to find a way to understand the state leaders to use medicine to listen to his words he don't read the brain device, check the "dog" can hide in some countries to live a life finally killed together, as long as a read head know if the leader is accused of
* I watched the news on cia mind control victims compensation, The original here
http://user.qzone.qq.com/331621436/blog/1425695949 illustrates the existence of this technology, I can't on the cia's website, please forward to the cia, asking them to look at my QQ space, it's really important, big disaster in the world
Control my dog theft by reading the brain's wisdom (or use the technology to high-tech wisdom super brain, for example), science and technology and one-time kills us, have no chance to regret
 
Don't stop now, later have no chance to regret, this "dog" is a person, looked at me and think, he looked at me to send him to kill all of us plan of Chinese people all know, the future will put a sex time we kill to catch him.
 
*Steal wisdom and science and technology to destroy the world
Someone destroyed the world want to use a kind of advanced instrument, please pay attention to, I was hurt by a special control instrument in brain, I can control the body, and they don't, I this whatever will happen again, be read brain know a wave remote idea, a lot of brain control victims do really have this kind of technology, the Internet has the victims like me, they are called brain victims, now is the technology out of the hole is not the die a lot of people out of a hole would like legal loophole, die a lot of people, this and other victims of the I, I can control the body (mouth) instruments, listen to the tape of my QQ space, you will know, is he my mouth to say to want to kill the world, which means he can control the read prison the mind knows not found on death row with his mouth to his charges to coerce him to help him harm or read brain come to listen to his words of drugs and so on, but not yet, so he can know all the high-tech weapons, such as scientists not released a new developed general detector, such as chronic virus genes, like SARS, etc. We are poisoning discovered late, the cutting edge of technology, society has not a few people know, every new developed product to everyone and practical for a period of time, he could even see scientists theoretically feasible way to force him to study how, how to look at my space in the first article. ! QQ331621436 Web site http://user.qzone.qq.com/331621436/2
 
Under normal circumstances [images] some things will never be found, but under the instrument can know anyone idea really can come true, other brain control victims can not kill me can control the body say privacy in mouth, he can also use my mouth to speak, listen to the tape of my space, you will know, is he my mouth to say to want to kill the world, which means he can read people's mind know didn't find the condemned to use his mouth to his guilt or read brain to coerce him to help him to harm others find can listen to his words of drug and so on, just doesn't work, so he can know all the high-tech weapons, such as scientists newly developed chronic virus gene did not detector is less than the general, like our brain is not detected, like SARS, etc. We are poisoning discovered late, the cutting edge of technology, society has not a few people know, every new developed product to everyone and practical for a period of time, he could even see scientists theoretically feasible way to force him to study, how to look at my space in the first article. This instrument is nobody tube holes, and then out of a hole is not impossible, there is normal can not read success impossible brain case, if the Chinese are dead, I urge you to tell the world is a beast with a reading meter to harm the brain and to the various countries all have hidden in the crowd people know the brain is a ruin, don't do was framed by his way to a country, should pay close attention to read the government don't want disorderly guess to brain, even used to read brain instrument to catch him, I hope you find media or call the police to find really know what the brain control experts don't look for a doctor, the doctor only know his professional knowledge, only like Chen Yi PIC just brain control of experts know this technology
I'm not sure is that mental problems seen in instrument or the real control, but I am sure I must have been, he stayed in me makes me waiting for me in slowly amnesia memory loss they suffered the brain damage will play not bottom go to leave him in me I will kill all the world at that time
If you can read brain must read my brain, a read brain will know everything, can prevent he slay all over the world
 
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Thursday, April 16, 2015

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markelmerscott@gmail.com: Apr 16 10:22AM -0700

How many countries get their debt restructured while the bulk owed Citibank
is compounded usurious interest first off-lawed in Maryland then South Dakota?
If Citibank debt was adjusted to eliminate usury, Citibank would be bankrupt.
Memoche Dodici <gerardopucciriddu@gmx.com>: Apr 16 05:24AM -0700

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TORNIAMO A MICHELE, DI CUI ACCENNAVO. ECCO UNO SCRITTO CHE GIRA SU INTERNET, E CHE, ASSICURO, SCRIVE ASSOUTISSIME, E, TANTO QUANTO, PROVABILISSIME VERITA': "GENIO BORSISTICO ED EROE CIVILE MICHELE NISTA (michelenista@gmx.com). AZZECCA IN AZIONI E MATERIE PRIME, SEMPRE. SU TUTTO. OGNI GIORNO. IN OGNI ANGOLO DEL PIANETA TERRA. SIA A LIVELLO DI AZIONARIO, CHE DI MATERIE PRIME. GENIO IN INVESTIMENTI MOBILIARI, MA PURE UN EROE. STA DISTRUGGENDO IL MAFASCISTASSASSINO, PEDOFILO SILVIO BERLUSCONI E SALVANDO, COSI', L'ITALIA, CHE GIUSTAMENTE, CHIAMA, AL MOMENTO, DITTATURA FASCIONDRANGHETISTA DI BERLUSCONIA!!!
 
MAI VISTO UN ASSOLUTO GENIO COME MICHELE NISTA. AZZECCA IN AZIONI E MATERIE PRIME SEMPRE, SEMPRE, SEMPRE. E NON SOLO IN AZIONI A MATERIE PRIME, MA SU TUTTO. AZZECCA SU TUTTO, E ANCHE CON NOVE, DODICI MEDI DI ANTICIPO. LO DICE CARTA CHE CANTA, LO DICONO SUE EMAILS E POST. IL GRANDISSIMO GENIO E RE MIDA MICHELE NISTA, HA PRESO IL RIBASSO DEL DOW JONES DEL 2007 E 2008, IL RIALZO DEL MARZO 2009, IL MINIMO DEL DOW JONES A 9700, DEL LUGLIO 2010, IL RIALZO DI INIZIO AUTUNNO 2010, IL RIBASSO DEL MAGGIO 2011, E L'ESPLOSIVO RIALZO CHE CI HA PORTATO AI GIORNI NOSTRI. AZZECCA SU TUTTO E' SEMPRE, IL GENIO MICHELE NISTA. SU TUTTO E SEMPRE. MA COME FA??? MICHELE NISTA, UN GRANDISSIMO GENIO, IL PIU' GRANDE GENIO BORSISTICO, DA SECOLI IN QUA. LO DICONO TONNELLATE DI FATTI, LO DICE CARTA STAMPATA DA INTERNET, CHE CANTA COME UN USIGNOLO. MICHELE NISTA, SEI UN GRANDISSIMO GENIO"!
 
Ciao a tutti. Mi chiamo Gianni, sono di Rimini, e vivo tra la mia citta' natale e Stoccolma, essendo mia moglie svedese. Devo dire che ho grande voglia di esprimere la mia gioia di conoscere l'assolutissimo genio Michele Nista (michelenista@gmx.com), di cui son felicissimo e arricchitissimo cliente. Un genio senza se e senza ma. Genio e eroe, in quanto sta salvandoci anche dalla dittatura maf..ascista ed assassina di Silvio Berlusconi. Con una creativita', energia, coraggio, e specialmente, risultati vincentissimi, che non trovi da nessuna altra parte, e mai. Non sbaglia mai e stra mai, ovvero, azzecca sempre, facendo fare tantissimi soldi, a tutti, in previsioni su azioni e materie prime. Ma azzecca anche, qualsiasi previsione in politica, calcio. Qualunque altra cosa. Michele Nista e' una vera e propria success machine, tutti i giorni dell'anno. Michele Nista e' un grandissimo Re Mida, uno dei piu' grandi Re Mida di tutti i tempi, in azioni, materie prime e non solo. E questo da fine anni 80, non solo da ora. O da due, tre anni. E' molto boicottato, il genio Michele Nista, da un topo di fogna, gia' condannato al carcere in Italia, Brasile, e indagato in
 
Inghilterra, che e' il pervertito sessuale, nazista, minacciante morte, e quindi, assassino: Paolo Barrai di Mercato Libero.
 
Non mi credete su che verme sia l'assassino fallito Paolo Barrai che attacca sempre, il genio in azioni e materie prime, nonche', eroe civile, Michele Nista? Allora date un'occhiata a cosa scrive chi da lui, si e' visto, di fatto, derubare milioni di euro, tutti risparmi che aveva:
 
Gruppo di risparmiatori truffati da bastardissimo criminale, pluri pregiudicato, avanzo di galera Paolo Barrai ( Blog Mercato "Merdato" Libero). Da incapace, delinquente, ladro, mega lava EURO mafiosi o "politicriminali", padanazista, berlusconazista, razzista, antisemita, super cocainomane, acclarato pedofilo, frequente mandante di omicidi Paolo Barrai ( Mercato Libero noto a tutto il mondo come Mer-d-ato Libero). Si, assolutamente, pure assassino Paolo Barrai ( "suicidatore" di David Rossi di Mps ma non solo). Schifoso lava cash mafioso e killer Paolo Barrai nato a Milano il 28.6.1965. E, prima di ora scappare come un vile ratto, a Lugano, in Svizzera (avendo paura di venire arrestato, in quanto indagato da Procure di Mezza Italia) e fra poco ancora più lontano: a Panama ( ove lo proteggerebbe il criminalissimo nazifascista corrottissimo ambasciatore lava EURO e $ mafiosi Giancarlo Maria Curcio
 
http://www.ambpanama.esteri.it/Ambasciata_Panama/Menu/Ambasciata/Ambasciatore/
 
non per niente, vicino al noto camorrist-avanzo di galera Valter Lavitola
 
http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2012/05/01/ecco-legami-valter-lavitola-lambasciatore-curcio-panama/214621/
 
http://www.bergamonews.it/politica/lavitola-e-berlusconi-intercettazoni-e-ricatti-hard-di-panama-183608)
 
.
 
Verme repellente Paolo Barrai di Mercato Libero: facente sue terrificanti delinquenze in cravatta da casa, presso Via Ippodromo 105 Milano. O DAGLI UFFICI DI MALAVITOSA, MEGA LAVA SOLDI DI COSA NOSTRA, LADRONA, BASTARDAMENTE CRIMINALE BSI ITALIA SRL DI VIA SOCRATE 26 MILANO. IN MANO A SUO PADRE, NOTO PADANAZIS-T-RUFFATORE E PURE NOTO PEDERASTA VINCENZO BARRAI. ABITANTE IN VIA PADOVA 282 A MILANO E NATO A MILANO IL 3.5.1938
 
Ciao, sono Antonella di Milano, e faccio parte di un foltissimo gruppo di clienti derubati di tutto, dall'assolutamente criminale Paolo Barrai (Mercato Libero, ormai noto nel mondo intero come Mer-d-ato Libero). Costui è davvero un bastardo assassino sicario. A tutti noi, uniti ora in una associazione " Risparmiatori truffati da spietato criminale Paolo Barrai di Mercato Libero (e siamo gia' in centoventi, dico centiventi: di tutta Italia, Brasile, Germania e Svizzera)" ci fece andare corti ( al ribasso) sul mercato azionario italiano a inizio 2009 (col Dow Jones ai minimi degli ultimi decenni: 6900; cosa che avrebbe potuto fare solo l'Ugo Fantozzi misto a Renato Vallanzasca della Finanza: Paolo Barrai). Abbiam perso quasi tutti tra il 70 e il 100 per cento dei nostri investimenti. E quando gli telefonavamo per chiedere semplicemente che fare, mentre il mercato saliva rapidissimamente, dal Marzo 2009 in avanti, egli, se non meglio dire, "esso", come un vile ratto, scappava. Si faceva sempre negare al telefono. Mandavamo e mails, nessuna risposta. Citofanavamo agli uffici di ultra truffatrice, ultra malavitosa, ultra ladrona Bsi Italia Srl di Via Socrate 26 a Milano di suo padre, notoriamente pure pedofilo, oltre che mega ricicla soldi criminal-istituzionali o mafiosi, Vincenzo Barrai di Via Padova 282 a Milano, ci vedeva dalla telecamera e nemmeno ci rispondeva. Nemmeno ci apriva il cancello di entrata. Io non sto offendendo, sto solo dicendo la mera verità. E fra poco la faremo sapere a fior fior di Tribunali di mezza Italia, anzi, mezzo Pianeta Terrra!!! Che i delinquenti ti debbano fare fessa, e pure non permettano replica, no eeeee. Il neofascismo e la mafia del delinquente, del ladro, del truffatore, del professionalmente incapacissimo, del davvero bastardo dentro e fuori Paolo Barrai di Mercato Libero alias Mer-d-ato Libero, a noi non fa nessuna paura.
 
Una truffata, derubata di tutto, dal verme assassino Paolo Barrai (già riciclante soldi di Mafia, Camorra, Ndrangheta, come di mastodontici ladrocinii o mega corruzione di Umberto Bossi e Silvio Berlusconi). Fra l´altro, socio, non compare di malavita, ma socio di:
 
arrestato Alessandro Proto
 
http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2013/02/14/manipolazione-del-mercato-arrestato-a-milano-finanziere-alessandro-proto/500117/
 
http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/notizie/2013-02-14/arrestato-finanziere-alessandro-proto-185225.shtml?uuid=AbLGMWUH
 
http://www.corriere.it/economia/13_febbraio_14/proto-arrestato-manipolazione-mercato_a6b59386-76cf-11e2-bad5-bab3677cbfcd.shtml
 
http://www.repubblica.it/economia/finanza/2013/02/14/news/arrestato_anche_il_finanziere-immobiliarista_alessandro_proto-52651324/
 
http://www.unita.it/italia/arrestato-il-finanziere-br-alessandro-proto-1.483688
 
arrestato Francesco Belsito
 
http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/notizie/2013-04-24/arrestato-belsito-tesoriere-lega-093844.shtml?uuid=Ab3Bm4pH
 
http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2013/04/24/lega-arrestato-lex-tesoriere-belsito-per-associazione-a-delinquere-e-truffa-aggravata/573689/
 
http://milano.corriere.it/milano/notizie/cronaca/13_aprile_24/francesco-belsito-ex-tesoriere-lega-arrestato-212819720314.shtml
 
detto questo detto tutto.. immaginerei!!
 
Mi ha bruciato 700.000 euro. Tutto quello che avevo. Ma a tanti altri ha bruciato 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 10 milioni di euro. Facendo comprare il gas naturale a 5$ e passa, che in poche settimane crollava a 1,9$. Facendo vendere il Dow Jones a 6900, ossia ai minimi di tanti ultimi anni. Dow Jones che ora quasi vale il doppio. E senza che lui prendesse telefonate, rispondesse ad emails. Senza dare indicazione alcuna a noi clienti terrorizzati! Come uno struzzo che dalla paura e coscienza di essere incapacissimo a livello di fiuto per investimenti, mette la testa sotto la sabbia.
 
3
 
Il verme brucia risparmi di una vita Paolo Barrai oltre ad essere il peggiore consulente per investimenti borsistici o di qualsiasi altro tipo, ove inesorabilmente sbaglia sempre (ha fatto comprare case in Brasile, a Porto Seguro ... ove lo attendono 8 ANNI DI GALERA SE VI CI TORNA, E NE SCRIVERÓ PRESTISSIMO.. dicevo... ha fatto comprare case in Brasile, a Porto Seguro, col real a 2,1
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Tuesday, April 14, 2015

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 1 topic

hchickpea@hotmail.com: Apr 13 10:07PM -0500


>Along the belief that if we could just explain things properly we could
>convince the terminally wrong-headed that life would be better if they
>could just change their minds and AGREE WITH US.
 
LOL! I don't think I ever wasted much time on that after high school. A lot of
what I wrote was more about educating the lurkers to alternative thoughts and
turning the "teminally wrong-headed" brains into butter by taking their own
rigid dictums and extending those to a logical extreme. Along the way I learned
a lot about my own learning edges and forces beyond the control of any of us.
 
I do find that there have been changes on the net that, like mainstream tv, play
to the lowest common denominator. A couple of recent comments on a private
forum have made me stop and think.
 
The first was someone claiming that I did hours of Google searching to answer
questions. Uhhhh, no. I will sometimes spend some time VERIFYING that what I am
about to post is correct and use a web search, but it really is possible for
people to hold thoughts longer than a twitter message in their minds AND be able
to relate them cogently.
 
The second was that people posing questions were more interested in
conversational interaction than getting answers or even optional answers to
their questions. I'm not even sure how to respond to that.
 
"My pipe burst! How do I fix it so water isn't spraying everywhere?!?"
 
"Funny you should ask! I once knew someone who had a pipe burst! They were an
interesting person that you would have liked. They had a parrot that could
recite the Pledge of Allegence. Let me tell you about that..."
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Apr 13 11:03PM -0700


>>Along with the belief that if we could just explain things properly we could
>>convince the terminally wrong-headed that life would be better if they
>>could just change their minds and AGREE WITH US.
 
I had to add 'with' up there. I just HAD to.
 
> what I wrote was more about educating the lurkers to alternative thoughts and
> turning the "teminally wrong-headed" brains into butter by taking their own
> rigid dictums and extending those to a logical extreme.
 
You can maybe turn butter into better butter, but I wouldn't bet money
on it. Or butter.
 
> about to post is correct and use a web search, but it really is possible for
> people to hold thoughts longer than a twitter message in their minds AND be able
> to relate them cogently.
 
The older we get the more stuff we know and the more crap we've
discarded. I'm shocked at what the under-20s don't know. "Common
knowledge" isn't.
 
I facebook because usenet friends facebooked. I won't twitter. I don't
care who tweets or how many revolutions get coordinated through twitter.
Some things are just too demeaning.
 
> The second was that people posing questions were more interested in
> conversational interaction than getting answers or even optional answers to
> their questions. I'm not even sure how to respond to that.
 
Don't. Questioners can expect either or both, but they're not mutually
exclusive. We need to just ignore certain things. There was a Quora
question the other day about how Americans are different. A guy said
that the big difference is that Americans think that every problem has a
solution. That may or may not be true, but it seems a lot more
admirable than just assuming that Option 1 is to accept the status quo.
 
Some problems (wrong-headed idiots, for example) can't be fixed until
old age or a guy with a gun takes care of the problem.
 
 
> "Funny you should ask! I once knew someone who had a pipe burst! They were an
> interesting person that you would have liked. They had a parrot that could
> recite the Pledge of Allegence. Let me tell you about that..."
 
But I digress...
 
 
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Monday, April 13, 2015

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 3 updates in 1 topic

Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: Apr 13 02:24PM -0400

hchickpea@hotmail.com: Apr 13 03:51PM -0500

>Not recently, but maybe some day someone woke up and decided "frugality is
>for losers" and went on a buying binge.
 
> Michael
 
More likely the cost of a newsfeed where Rod was the main poster probably seemed
NOT frugal... :D
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Apr 13 04:23PM -0700


>>>> I'm an oldtimer here, not dead, but not on Facebook either. I've never seen
>>>> anybody with a smartphone on USENET.
>>>> I miss the great threads that used to be here.
 
I'm on facebook, along with a lot of people from other newsgroups. It's
nothing at all like usenet. More pictures, less thinking and
discussion. I've "known" these people since 1995 so perhaps discussion
isn't needed as much -- we all "know" each other.
 
I just spent a week in Brian Head with half a dozen people from the
skiing newsgroup, and I don't think any of us surprised any others of us
-- it's like we'd been friends, or at least work-friends, for quite a
while.
 
Usenet was better, though. Even without the dog/cat pictures.
 
>>> forums and other forms of communication.
 
>>> I think that another part of it was that until 2002, and then 2008, a lot of us
>>> had a lot more positive outlook towards the future.
 
Along the belief that if we could just explain things properly we could
convince the terminally wrong-headed that life would be better if they
could just change their minds and AGREE WITH US.
 
 
>>I wonder if that factored into some of the people lost over the years.
>>Not recently, but maybe some day someone woke up and decided "frugality is
>>for losers" and went on a buying binge.
 
Perhaps if you discovered a terminal illness and thought your heirs
would just waste the fruits of your lifelong frugality you might figure
Oh hell, I'm just going to spend it all, but even then I think we would
tend to want to get the best deal. Barring that, such a polar-opposite
switch just doesn't seem reasonable.
 
> More likely the cost of a newsfeed where Rod was the main poster probably seemed
> NOT frugal... :D
 
Does anybody still pay for this stuff? NOT frugal whether RS exists or not.
 
 
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Thursday, April 9, 2015

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 6 updates in 2 topics

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Apr 08 07:18PM -0700


> I'm also inclined to think that any group that isn't pablum dribbling out of the
> mouth drivel and/or in rabid support of military and neo-facist mentality is
> doomed in this cultural climate anyway.
 
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."
 
Nothing like sitting on a high horse every once in a while :-)
 
--
Cheers, Bev
"My dad used to say: Laugh, and the whole world laughs with you.
Cry, and I'll give you something to cry about you little
bastard." -Jeff Goldblum
hchickpea@hotmail.com: Apr 09 12:06AM -0500


>"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
>nothing."
 
>Nothing like sitting on a high horse every once in a while :-)
 
And too bad that the Congresscritters have forgotten that and decided to focus
their attention more on what comes out the back end of that horse...
 
"Who was that masked man?" - Lennie Bruce
imascot <imnot@mycomputer.now>: Apr 09 07:43PM


>>> In our hearts forever.
 
>>> Anybody else?
>> (snip)
 
I'm an oldtimer here, not dead, but not on Facebook either. I've never seen
anybody with a smartphone on USENET.
I miss the great threads that used to be here.
 
J.
 
 
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Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: Apr 09 11:27PM

>> --
>> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
 
>Porn, concerts (there is a staggering amount of free entertainment in this town) and internet booty calls.
 
There's the old Semi-D we all remember!
 
Dennis (evil)
--
My output is down, my income is up, I take a short position on the long bond and
my revenue stream has its own cash flow. -George Carlin
KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Apr 09 05:33PM

I tried emailing through the CenturyLink web site (useless response) and
politely via USPS to billing address, local office and finally to their CEO
regarding a billing problem. All letters ignored. Any other suggestions?
Addresses? I prefer written communication for the record of questions and
answers.
 
TIA
 
 
--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: Apr 09 02:08PM -0400

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Wednesday, April 8, 2015

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 15 updates in 2 topics

Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: Apr 07 11:07PM -0400

hchickpea@hotmail.com: Apr 07 11:53PM -0500


>> What about Soul Surgeon? I think he's been dead (or in a vegetative
>> state) for years.
 
>Harry Chickpea. I know he just quit, but still...
 
There are days I wish my job on the planet were done, but I suspect it isn't.
Ever since Rod killed the group, I only glance in from time to time.
hchickpea@hotmail.com: Apr 08 12:10AM -0500

>Rod Speed ruined the group. He must lurk since he will pop
>up every once in a while. If he is lurking: please forgive
>and come back Harry.
 
I've been watching a forum "HomesteadingToday" self-detruct over the past month
or so, interesting flame-out there. I have comments on it, but they are best
kept to myself.
 
Pat Meadows was in poor health (along with her (Brit?) husband/mate when she
left, IIRC.
 
SewMaster? Forget her 'nym, Mormon woman who was kind but had a rough go in
life. Pretty sure she was one who died.
 
Tock - still barbering?
 
Bearclaw - not sure
 
Top Post / Bottom Post. Don't think it matters that much any more.
Beaver_Fever@live.com: Apr 07 11:27PM -0700

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 12:45:23 PM UTC-7, Dennis wrote:
 
> Dennis (evil)
> --
> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
 
Those people seemed like total wastoids and quite proud of it. I don't drink or do drugs. Which in turn allows me to live quite comfortably on almost nothing.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Apr 08 12:56AM -0700

>>Rod Speed ruined the group. He must lurk since he will pop
>>up every once in a while. If he is lurking: please forgive
>>and come back Harry.
 
Welcome back, even if it's only temporary. Could you possibly regard a
return as a sort of 'Take back the night' thing?
 
> I've been watching a forum "HomesteadingToday" self-detruct over the past month
> or so, interesting flame-out there. I have comments on it, but they are best
> kept to myself.
 
It's hard to avoid being sucked in sometimes, but I'm getting better :-)
 
 
> SewMaster? Forget her 'nym, Mormon woman who was kind but had a rough go in
> life. Pretty sure she was one who died.
 
> Tock - still barbering?
 
He was in Austin, right? I googled, but nothing obvious turned up. He
can't have had it easy either.
 
> Bearclaw - not sure
 
> Top Post / Bottom Post. Don't think it matters that much any more.
 
It still pops up in mozilla.general every once in a while.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
"If you're crazy, you better find a way to make money off it.
Otherwise they will lock you up" -- Hunter S. Thompson
Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net>: Apr 08 06:01AM -0500


>>Harry Chickpea. I know he just quit, but still...
 
>There are days I wish my job on the planet were done, but I suspect it isn't.
>Ever since Rod killed the group, I only glance in from time to time.
 
Any group Rod Speed "killed" was doomed anyway.
hchickpea@hotmail.com: Apr 08 10:15AM -0500

>> --
>> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
 
>Those people seemed like total wastoids and quite proud of it. I don't drink or do drugs. Which in turn allows me to live quite comfortably on almost nothing.
 
<shrug> I find I am eating less as I get older. Perhaps the secret of FL is as
simple as reducing the munchies.
hchickpea@hotmail.com: Apr 08 10:22AM -0500


>Welcome back, even if it's only temporary. Could you possibly regard a
>return as a sort of 'Take back the night' thing?
 
I could, but the more I learn about social dynamics in action vs. true
information exchange, the less sure I am about the stability and longevity of
any group.
 
I'm also inclined to think that any group that isn't pablum dribbling out of the
mouth drivel and/or in rabid support of military and neo-facist mentality is
doomed in this cultural climate anyway.
Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: Apr 08 04:49PM

>> --
>> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
 
>Those people seemed like total wastoids and quite proud of it. I don't drink or do drugs. Which in turn allows me to live quite comfortably on almost nothing.
 
So all that's left is the porn?
 
Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: Apr 08 01:02PM -0400

Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: Apr 08 01:04PM -0400

Beaver_Fever@live.com: Apr 08 10:22AM -0700

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 9:49:03 AM UTC-7, Dennis wrote:
 
> Dennis (evil)
> --
> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
 
 
 
Porn, concerts (there is a staggering amount of free entertainment in this town) and internet booty calls.
Beaver_Fever@live.com: Apr 08 04:25PM -0700

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 10:29:30 AM UTC-7, Derald wrote:
> anyway.
 
> --
> Derald
 
Pat Meadows was really nice. So was Suzn.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Apr 08 05:22PM -0700

On 04/08/2015 04:01 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
 
>>There are days I wish my job on the planet were done, but I suspect it isn't.
>>Ever since Rod killed the group, I only glance in from time to time.
 
> Any group Rod Speed "killed" was doomed anyway.
 
How about "major contributing factor" then?
 
 
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Cheers,
Bev
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Derald <derald@invalid.net>: Apr 08 01:29PM -0400

>bed vegetable garden. I know I followed it for a while, but then I think
>there were no updates. But it's been some time since I checked, I don't
>even have the URL handy.
I attempted, unsuccessfully, to buy some seeds from her that Pat
was advertising on the web site. Later, she caused some kind of stir in
a web forum in which we seemed to be accused of plagiarism, claiming the
web site as her own or some kind of stupid human trick but I never could
discern what folks thought of as the "real" issue and didn't/don't care,
anyway.
 
--
Derald
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