Thursday, August 14, 2008

25 new messages in 7 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

* Cottage Cheese - $2.69 for 24 oz. - good deal? - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c7b787cde7611a6b?hl=en
* Circuit City Gift Cards - bankruptcy - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e8b3c2afb0aca037?hl=en
* Should I buy a gas gussler? - 10 messages, 9 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fabb5d064cc35efb?hl=en
* High Tech Chairs - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/203d867866b9c8ba?hl=en
* $100 Gas Voucher - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b6baf7ab18c0e89a?hl=en
* ot: SCHOOL 1957 vs. 2007 - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/553d5f9cf98cde1d?hl=en
* Please help Burnham RSM-126 oil furnace won't heat hot water after vacation -
2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/eef6515a0b25337e?hl=en

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TOPIC: Cottage Cheese - $2.69 for 24 oz. - good deal?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c7b787cde7611a6b?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 1:36 pm
From: clams_casino


clams_casino wrote:

> OhioGuy wrote:
>
>> I saw store brand cottage cheese at Kroger for $2.69 a 24 ounce
>> container. It seemed kind of high, so I stopped by a Save-A-Lot
>> thinking it might be more like $2.30 there. Instead, they had the
>> same exact price.
>>
>> Is this pretty much the going price for cottage cheese these days?
>> In my mind, I must have trained myself to look for a price of $2 or
>> less - and anything more seems overpriced.
>>
>> Then again, I couldn't find chicken drumsticks for under $1.60 a
>> pound last weekend, and up until last year I could always find bulk
>> packs of those for 79c a pound. Evidently I'm going to have to get
>> used to paying twice as much if I want them. (still a better deal
>> than Church's Chicken, Popeye's or Kentucky Fried)
>>
>>
>>
> This morning's circular here (Shaw's in RI) shows chicken legs,
> drumsticks, thighs or whole chicken next week for 99 cents/lb, so it's
> still possible to be >$1.
>
> This past week, I picked up split chicken breast for $0.99 / lb at
> another grocer (3 lb minimum packs).
>
Opps <$1.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 2:55 pm
From: curly'q


clams_casino wrote:
> clams_casino wrote:
>
>> OhioGuy wrote:
>>
>>> I saw store brand cottage cheese at Kroger for $2.69 a 24 ounce
>>> container. It seemed kind of high, so I stopped by a Save-A-Lot
>>> thinking it might be more like $2.30 there. Instead, they had the
>>> same exact price.
>>>
>>> Is this pretty much the going price for cottage cheese these days?
>>> In my mind, I must have trained myself to look for a price of $2 or
>>> less - and anything more seems overpriced.
>>>
>>> Then again, I couldn't find chicken drumsticks for under $1.60 a
>>> pound last weekend, and up until last year I could always find bulk
>>> packs of those for 79c a pound. Evidently I'm going to have to get
>>> used to paying twice as much if I want them. (still a better deal
>>> than Church's Chicken, Popeye's or Kentucky Fried)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> This morning's circular here (Shaw's in RI) shows chicken legs,
>> drumsticks, thighs or whole chicken next week for 99 cents/lb, so it's
>> still possible to be >$1.
>>
>> This past week, I picked up split chicken breast for $0.99 / lb at
>> another grocer (3 lb minimum packs).
>>
> Opps <$1.

I don't know if they are available in all stores, but the Walmart by us
sells a ten pound bag of leg quarters(leg and thigh attached) for 58 a
pound up from 47 a pound six months ago.

Curly

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 5:03 pm
From: Seerialmom


On Aug 14, 12:52 pm, "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote:
>   I saw store brand cottage cheese at Kroger for $2.69 a 24 ounce container.
> It seemed kind of high, so I stopped by a Save-A-Lot thinking it might be
> more like $2.30 there.  Instead, they had the same exact price.
>
>   Is this pretty much the going price for cottage cheese these days?  In my
> mind, I must have trained myself to look for a price of $2 or less - and
> anything more seems overpriced.
>
>   Then again, I couldn't find chicken drumsticks for under $1.60 a pound
> last weekend, and up until last year I could always find bulk packs of those
> for 79c a pound.  Evidently I'm going to have to get used to paying twice as
> much if I want them. (still a better deal than Church's Chicken, Popeye's or
> Kentucky Fried)

Milk products tend to be regulated by the government, there's a
minimum/maximum price from what I recall.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 7:07 pm
From: "OhioGuy"


> I don't know if they are available in all stores, but the Walmart by us
> sells a ten pound bag of leg quarters(leg and thigh attached) for 58 a
> pound up from 47 a pound six months ago.

Thanks, Curly! Do you know if this is the every day price, or just a sale
price? If it is their regular price, then I guess I should make a trip to
Wal-Mart and stock up the freezer.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 9:44 pm
From: Ron Peterson


On Aug 14, 2:52 pm, "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote:
>   I saw store brand cottage cheese at Kroger for $2.69 a 24 ounce container.
> It seemed kind of high, so I stopped by a Save-A-Lot thinking it might be
> more like $2.30 there.  Instead, they had the same exact price.

Deans cottage cheese is $2.99 for 24 ounces in a local supermarket.

--
Ron


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TOPIC: Circuit City Gift Cards - bankruptcy
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e8b3c2afb0aca037?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 3:30 pm
From: Al Bundy


OhioGuy wrote:
> I just read an article about bankruptcy and gift cards in Kiplinger's
> Personal Finance. They said that due to the bankruptcy rumors, if you have
> a gift card from Circuit City, you should cash it in NOW - because it may
> become worthless at any time.

And you just discovered this in Kiplinger's today? How behind the
curve are you anyway? You have to be the last person on earth to
figure it out. If a company is broke, they can't honor your card. If
the door is closed, they can't let you in. Regardless, the fixed value
of the card is always worth less in the future.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 3:38 pm
From: George Grapman


Al Bundy wrote:
>
> OhioGuy wrote:
>> I just read an article about bankruptcy and gift cards in Kiplinger's
>> Personal Finance. They said that due to the bankruptcy rumors, if you have
>> a gift card from Circuit City, you should cash it in NOW - because it may
>> become worthless at any time.
>
> And you just discovered this in Kiplinger's today? How behind the
> curve are you anyway? You have to be the last person on earth to
> figure it out. If a company is broke, they can't honor your card. If
> the door is closed, they can't let you in. Regardless, the fixed value
> of the card is always worth less in the future.


About 20 years ago a new health club in my neighborhood offered steep
discounts on yearly memberships. I tried to sign up for a month but was
told they were only accepting yearly memberships at the start/2 months
later they were gone.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 7:05 pm
From: "OhioGuy"


> And you just discovered this in Kiplinger's today? How behind the
> curve are you anyway?

I think you missed the point - I wasn't personally aware of Circuit City
having solvency problems, because I don't shop there, and am not very
familiar with their stores, so I don't keep up on news related to them. As
such, I figured there just might be someone out there reading this group
that might have a Circuit City gift card, and who also hasn't heard of their
"impending doom". However, if my post convinced even ONE person to go out
and spend their gift card now, and it goes belly up in a month or so, then
I'll feel that it was worth taking the couple of minutes to post my original
message.



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TOPIC: Should I buy a gas gussler?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fabb5d064cc35efb?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 3:59 pm
From: James


I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
with big discounts I might get one. I only drive 8000 miles a year so
it's only about 300 gallons of gas. A big car using twice as much gas
would cost $1200 more in gas. Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
comfortable car and get the savings up front?

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 4:56 pm
From: Seerialmom


On Aug 14, 3:59 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
> with big discounts I might get one.  I only drive 8000 miles a year so
> it's only about 300 gallons of gas.  A big car using twice as much gas
> would cost $1200 more in gas.  Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
> comfortable car and get the savings up front?

How did you do your math on the MPG? I took your 8K and divided by
16mpg, answer was 500 gal. Multiplied that by $4 and came out with
$2K. Technically, if you can get the gas guzzler for "less" than a
car that gets 30mpg or more and don't drive much...economically it
might work. Now ask this question over at treehugger.com and see what
kind of answer you get :p

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 5:37 pm
From: James


On Aug 14, 7:56 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 14, 3:59 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
> > with big discounts I might get one.  I only drive 8000 miles a year so
> > it's only about 300 gallons of gas.  A big car using twice as much gas
> > would cost $1200 more in gas.  Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
> > comfortable car and get the savings up front?
>
> How did you do your math on the MPG?  I took your 8K and divided by
> 16mpg, answer was 500 gal.  Multiplied that by $4 and came out with
> $2K.  Technically, if you can get the gas guzzler for "less" than a
> car that gets 30mpg or more and don't drive much...economically it
> might work.  Now ask this question over at treehugger.com and see what
> kind of answer you get :p

$2K and 500 gal was your total. I said 300 gallons more or $1200 more
than a wind up toy car. Treehuggers can kiss my u no watt.

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 5:54 pm
From: "Dave"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cbcdfdc7-542d-45fb-879c-7926b9159015@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
> with big discounts I might get one. I only drive 8000 miles a year so
> it's only about 300 gallons of gas. A big car using twice as much gas
> would cost $1200 more in gas. Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
> comfortable car and get the savings up front?

No. But here's a real frugal tip...craigslist has lots of gas guzzlers for
next to nothing right now. Saving several thousand dollars on the purchase
of a new car is not frugal. -Dave


== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 6:16 pm
From: "Brad Naylor"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cbcdfdc7-542d-45fb-879c-7926b9159015@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
> with big discounts I might get one. I only drive 8000 miles a year so
> it's only about 300 gallons of gas. A big car using twice as much gas
> would cost $1200 more in gas. Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
> comfortable car and get the savings up front?

Depends on where gas prices go in the future. Is $10 gas likely as India
and China continue to rapidly increase their rates of car ownership and new
drilling/discoveries lag the increase in demand? Your $1200 more would go
to $3000 more -- what does that do to your decision?


== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 7:22 pm
From: George


James wrote:
> I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
> with big discounts I might get one. I only drive 8000 miles a year so
> it's only about 300 gallons of gas. A big car using twice as much gas
> would cost $1200 more in gas. Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
> comfortable car and get the savings up front?

Not a treehugger by any means but waste is waste. I always thought the
idea of driving a fluffed up truck for personal transportation was silly
even when the fuel prices were 20% of what they are now.

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 7:58 pm
From: Shawn Hirn


In article
<cbcdfdc7-542d-45fb-879c-7926b9159015@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>,
James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
> with big discounts I might get one. I only drive 8000 miles a year so
> it's only about 300 gallons of gas. A big car using twice as much gas
> would cost $1200 more in gas. Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
> comfortable car and get the savings up front?

How long do you expect to own this vehicle? Keep in mind that the price
of gas one year from now, then two years down the road, and three, four,
and five years will only go up. If you are a low mileage driver, it
might be better for you to rent a car once a week and consolidate your
driving or perhaps join a car share service or maybe split the cost of a
car with a neighbor or relative who also is an infrequent driver.

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 8:37 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
> with big discounts I might get one. I only drive 8000 miles a year so
> it's only about 300 gallons of gas. A big car using twice as much gas
> would cost $1200 more in gas. Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
> comfortable car and get the savings up front?

Depends on what the gas price does in the life of the car.


== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 8:58 pm
From: Jeff


James wrote:
> I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
> with big discounts I might get one. I only drive 8000 miles a year so
> it's only about 300 gallons of gas. A big car using twice as much gas
> would cost $1200 more in gas. Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
> comfortable car and get the savings up front?

There has never been anything frugal about buying a new car. And the
drive off the lot devaluation for an SUV is particularly harsh.

http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/05/severely-underwater-vehicles.html

But hey, if you want to drive a brand new road hog, then go buy one.
It really isn't a question of economics is it?

Jeff

== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 11:45 pm
From: "Nicik Name"

"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-7C7EEF.22582214082008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article
> <cbcdfdc7-542d-45fb-879c-7926b9159015@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>,
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
>> with big discounts I might get one. I only drive 8000 miles a year so
>> it's only about 300 gallons of gas. A big car using twice as much gas
>> would cost $1200 more in gas. Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
>> comfortable car and get the savings up front?
>
> How long do you expect to own this vehicle? Keep in mind that the price
> of gas one year from now, then two years down the road, and three, four,
> and five years will only go up.
Nope.............the high peaked late June 2008.



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TOPIC: High Tech Chairs
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 5:45 pm
From: AndyTao <22265737@qq.com>


Quality Chairs - Tremendous Value Laboratory, ESD, Cleanroom
http://www.ogogo123sina.cn/


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TOPIC: $100 Gas Voucher
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b6baf7ab18c0e89a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 7:00 pm
From: alalhp6d


I just discovered this new site that's giving away a $100 gas voucher,
for free!

Can you believe the price of gas these days?

In my area it's currently over $4.75 per gallon, and all signs point
to it going even higher, very soon. I remember the days when gas used
to cost $0.99 per gallon, but those days are long gone.


This site delivers on its promise too, and you can receive your gas
voucher for the gas station of your choice.

Here's how it works:

1. You visit http://freegasvoucher.ebusinesswiz.com
2. You complete one of their participating offers (I completed mine
in 5 minutes).
3. You get your free $100 gas voucher!

Simple as that.

I'm taking the $100 I'm saving on gas and taking my family out to a
nice dinner. What will you do with your $100?

Don't miss out on this offer. There's no telling when they'll take it
down.

Visit http://freegasvoucher.ebusinesswiz.com and get your free $100
gas voucher today!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 8:39 pm
From: rvz1fqp4


I just discovered this new site that's giving away a $100 gas voucher,
for free!

Can you believe the price of gas these days?

In my area it's currently over $4.75 per gallon, and all signs point
to it going even higher, very soon. I remember the days when gas used
to cost $0.99 per gallon, but those days are long gone.


This site delivers on its promise too, and you can receive your gas
voucher for the gas station of your choice.

Here's how it works:

1. You visit http://freegasvoucher.ebusinesswiz.com
2. You complete one of their participating offers (I completed mine
in 5 minutes).
3. You get your free $100 gas voucher!

Simple as that.

I'm taking the $100 I'm saving on gas and taking my family out to a
nice dinner. What will you do with your $100?

Don't miss out on this offer. There's no telling when they'll take it
down.

Visit http://freegasvoucher.ebusinesswiz.com and get your free $100
gas voucher today!


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TOPIC: ot: SCHOOL 1957 vs. 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/553d5f9cf98cde1d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 7:32 pm
From: Ken Lay


In article <MwKnk.567$EL2.75@trnddc01>,
"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school
> parking lot with shotgun in gun rack. 1957 - Vice Principal comes
> over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun
> to show Jack.

Vice Principal invites Jack over to see the rest of his gun collection
and seduces Jack with fine whiskey and sloe gin. Jack goes on to become
a male prostitute in the seediest section of the nearest "large" town,
satisfying some of the area's most powerful political and business
figures for peanuts. Eventually Jack succumbs to syphilis, dying alone
and unlamented in a cardboard box off skid row.

> Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school. 1957
> - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up
> buddies.

Johnny is thereafter ostracized, humiliated and taunted everywhere he
goes. There is no escape, and he is forced into many more fights with
lesser opponents most of which he loses, just as he lost to Mark. Mark,
meanwhile, goes on to become a notorious bully, glorified and richly
rewarded by the system that celebrated his victory over Johnny. Years
later, when Johnny finally finds a compassionate woman who will have
him, the psychotically jealous Mark, now a successful businessman and
public figure, organizes her gang rape and murder in front of Johnny's
eyes. No one is ever brought to trial.

> Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
> 1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the
> Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class
> again.

Two weeks later, Jeffrey is caught smoking in the boys room,
occasioning yet another paddling episode. By the end of the school
year, Jeffrey is visiting the principle's office on a regular basis for
a good paddling, maybe three or four times a week. Jeffrey goes on to
graduate with honors and find enormous success in selling B & D
accouterments, catering especially to sadistic pedophiles circulating
in the newly-formed "Internetwork". Unfortunately, Jeffrey also becomes
involved with the illicit drug trade and is found dead at twenty-nine
from a suspicious overdose of methamphetamine. Friends insist he only
used it for his narcolepsy.

> Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad
> gives him a whipping with his belt. 1957 - Billy is more careful
> next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful
> businessman.

Thus, neighbors are horrified when one bright and sunny morning, the
seemingly happily-married Billy suddenly douses his six-year-old son,
Billy Jr., with gasoline and sets him alight. Police blame marital
strife for Billy's crime, as sordid divorce proceedings are revealed.
Billy's primary motive is determined to be revenge against his wife.
After months of hospital care, years of rehabilitation and suffering
too deep to express, a scar-covered Billy Jr. is released from care to
resume as normal a life as possible. His father Billy is also released
in light of his good record in the past after only seven years
incarceration. Billy Jr. lives the rest of his days in fear, finally
falling from the roof of a tall building in downtown Cincinnati. Medical
examiners rule his death a "tragic accident".

Part two later, if I feel like getting a round tuit.
--
Everybody lies. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney just suck at it.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 7:33 pm
From: Ken Lay


In article <MwKnk.567$EL2.75@trnddc01>,
"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:

> This should hit every e-mail box to show how stupid we have become!

You must have a mouse in your pocket.
--
Everybody lies. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney just suck at it.


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TOPIC: Please help Burnham RSM-126 oil furnace won't heat hot water after
vacation
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/eef6515a0b25337e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 10:38 pm
From: Donita Luddington


On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:22:21 -0700 (PDT), mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com wrote:
> Now call a professional for God's sake!

How hard can this thing be?
All it does is boil water.

What does a professional know that I can't learn in a few weeks?
Is there a book out there on boilers?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 10:55 pm
From: Steve Daniels


On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:38:39 -0700, against all advice, something
compelled Donita Luddington <doniludd@sbcglobal.net>, to say:

> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:22:21 -0700 (PDT), mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com wrote:
> > Now call a professional for God's sake!
>
> How hard can this thing be?
> All it does is boil water.
>
> What does a professional know that I can't learn in a few weeks?
> Is there a book out there on boilers?


The fucking thing could blow up. But you go girl, read a book.
--

"The ABS system can not overcome the laws of physics."

Audi Owner's Manual

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