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* All porn fanatics eventually turn child molestor - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* Help Double Numbersusa membership by calling cspan and mentioning Numbersusa
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TOPIC: All porn fanatics eventually turn child molestor
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c1e52502bc4f085a?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 11:49 am
From: Shadowland

Don't think you can pollute your mind with anything and remain
healthy.
You're kidding yourself.

Listen to law enforcement people who have dealt with sex offenders
for years...

They say "If your addicted to porn, your in trouble."

Like anything other addiction, you build an immunity...need harder
stuff...freaker, weirder stuff...
forbidden stuff.

All these child molesters in the news anymore...where have they all
come from ?

The explosion in their numbers seems to correlate closely with the
influence of the internet, and
the availability of porn that comes with it.

Let's tell these porn pushers to go **** themselves.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 7:58 pm
From: Beloved Leader

On Nov 1, 1:49 pm, Shadowland <saints2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
....
> Like anything other addiction, you build an immunity...need harder
> stuff...freaker, weirder stuff...
> forbidden stuff.

Wow. You certainly have issues. Good luck finding it.

> All these child molesters in the news anymore...where have they all
> come from ?

The implosion of the Republican party.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 8:49 pm
From:

In article <1193942984.450616.265770@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
saints2060@yahoo.com says...

> All these child molesters in the news anymore...where have they all
> come from ?
>
> The explosion in their numbers seems to correlate closely with the
> influence of the internet, and
> the availability of porn that comes with it.

Except that most of the child molestation settlements that have been in
the news involve abuse that took place before the Internet was a gleam
in AlGore's eye -- is there any indication that child sexual abuse has
actually become more common? Or are we simply seeing on the front page
stories that used to be considered too sordid to tell?

--
josh@phred.org is Joshua Putnam
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/>
Braze your own bicycle frames. See
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html>

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 10:36 pm
From: "Sgt.Sausage"

"Shadowland" <saints2060@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1193942984.450616.265770@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> Don't think you can pollute your mind with anything and remain
> healthy.

So ... ummm ... are we to assume you think that sex
is unhealthy and somehow, equivalent to pollution of
the mind?

> You're kidding yourself.

You're a moron.

> Listen to law enforcement people who have dealt with sex offenders
> for years...

Yeah. They've dealt with the addicts, and the
hardened criminals, and the white collar criminals,
and the fraudsters and shysters and domestic violence
and <you name it>.

They (LE) don't seem to be making any progress in those
areas either.

> They say "If your addicted to porn, your in trouble."

They say a lot of other stuff that makes no sense
too.

> Like anything other addiction, you build an immunity...need harder
> stuff...freaker, weirder stuff...
> forbidden stuff.

Forbidden? In your mind only.

The rest of us have gotten over our sexual hang-ups and
inhibitions and petty moral taboos and understand that
it (porn) will only lead us to where we *want* to go, not
where some un-named Law Enforcement Agency believes, or wants
you to believe we'll go.

I'm not turning to child molestation any time soon (or
ever), yet I've enjoyed my porn for over 30 years now.

What say you to that?

I like some really freaky stuff too!

> All these child molesters in the news anymore...where have they all
> come from ?

Actually, they've been here all along. The news has gotten
better at making you aware of them, that's all.

> The explosion in their numbers seems to correlate closely with the
> influence of the internet, and
> the availability of porn that comes with it.

There is no such explosion in their numbers. Only in your
awareness of their numbers.

> Let's tell these porn pushers to go **** themselves.

They wouldn't exist if there wasn't a need to fulfill. Willing,
*paying* customers who want the stuff. If you don't like it,
you don't have to pay for it and consume it. In the mean time,
leave the rest of us alone and go fuck yourself.

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TOPIC: Help Double Numbersusa membership by calling cspan and mentioning
Numbersusa etc
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 1:05 pm
From: greg3347

On Nov 1, 11:01 am, gringogirl <sumarli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Help Us Double Our Membership: Call C-SPAN
> NUSA : October 31 , 2007 -- by NUSA
>
> Help us double our membership before the next big battle in Congress
> begins.
>
> Please call C-SPAN (c-span.org) to tell others about NumbersUSA.com,
> and invite the audience to join us to experience the satisfaction of
> sending a few faxes (and report cards!) to their Representatives and
> Senators.
>
> We need your help to get the word out
>
> about NumbersUSA.com to hundreds of thousands of these people who are
> interested in politics, aware of the need for action, but unaware of
> NumbersUSA.com. The hosts WELCOME callers to read out their favorite
> WEBSITE ADDRESSES, to make political statements, and to question
> political guests who are on the show.
>
> Note: Call anytime, but calling during the "Open Phones" segments is
> the best, because any and all subjects are welcome. "Open Phones" are
> generally 7:00 a.m. to about 7:45 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.
> Eastern time.
>
> Listeners/viewers can ask Washington Journal guests a question, or
> make a comment during Open Phone segments at:
>
> Support Republicans: (202) 737-0001
>
> Support Democrats: (202) 737-0002
>
> Support Independents: (202) 628-0205
>
> Outside U.S.: (202) 628-0184 What is C-SPAN?
>
> Callers reach a nationwide audience of all political views and
> parties. C-SPAN has three television channels available on cable and
> satellite television, and is broadcast on XM (channel 132) and Sirius
> (Channel 139) satellite radio, as well as on several local radio
> stations, and on the internet at:http://c-span.org/
>
> NumbersUSA Comment:
> C-SPAN is a unique, non-partisan, non-profit, commercial-free
> television and radio network, devoted to covering Congress and
> political and cultural issues. C-SPAN features a morning call-in show
> called 'Washington Journal" which is broadcast seven days a week,
> including holidays. It begins at 7:00 a.m. and runs until 10:00 a.m.
> Eastern Time (4:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. Pacific Time). When Congress is
> in session, it often cuts away to the House or Senate floor action
> earlier than 10:00 a.m.
>
> Listeners call C-SPAN from across America virtually every morning to
> complain about the effects of illegal immigration. Most are bewildered
> by what is happening to their country due to illegal immigration
> numbers out of control. These folks are desperately searching for a
> way to effectively express their concerns to Congress.
>
> A call to the C-SPAN audience THAT MENTIONS THE NUMBERSUSA.COM WEBSITE
> and how easy the website makes it to contact Congress, can get the
> word out to hundreds of thousands of Americans who don't get
> NumbersUSA.com Action Alerts. Often, the caller can tell the audience
> that Congress is about to vote on an immigration related bill, and
> invite listeners to visit NumbersUSA.com to find out what they can do
> to efficiently and effectively let Congress know what they think. We
> can get help from thousands of non-members and recruit many new
> members with just one phone call to this bi-partisan audience.
>
> NumbersUSA Comment:
> Like most Americans, nearly all of these callers have never heard of
> NumbersUSA.com, and they have no idea that NumbersUSA.com is available
> to them, free of charge, to help them economically leverage their
> efforts to make their views known to Congress. Thousands would join
> NumbersUSA.com if they could hear of our existence and what we can
> do.
>
> We appreciate you making this effort!
>
> Please tell us about your call!
>
> Submit my feedback!

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 2:10 pm
From: Don Stockbauer

greg3347 wrote:
> On Nov 1, 11:01 am, gringogirl <sumarli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Help Us Double Our Membership: Call C-SPAN
> > NUSA : October 31 , 2007 -- by NUSA
> >
> > Help us double our membership before the next big battle in Congress
> > begins.
> >
> > Please call C-SPAN (c-span.org) to tell others about NumbersUSA.com,
> > and invite the audience to join us to experience the satisfaction of
> > sending a few faxes (and report cards!) to their Representatives and
> > Senators.
> >
> > We need your help to get the word out
> >
> > about NumbersUSA.com to hundreds of thousands of these people who are
> > interested in politics, aware of the need for action, but unaware of
> > NumbersUSA.com. The hosts WELCOME callers to read out their favorite
> > WEBSITE ADDRESSES, to make political statements, and to question
> > political guests who are on the show.
> >
> > Note: Call anytime, but calling during the "Open Phones" segments is
> > the best, because any and all subjects are welcome. "Open Phones" are
> > generally 7:00 a.m. to about 7:45 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.
> > Eastern time.
> >
> > Listeners/viewers can ask Washington Journal guests a question, or
> > make a comment during Open Phone segments at:
> >
> > Support Republicans: (202) 737-0001
> >
> > Support Democrats: (202) 737-0002
> >
> > Support Independents: (202) 628-0205
> >
> > Outside U.S.: (202) 628-0184 What is C-SPAN?
> >
> > Callers reach a nationwide audience of all political views and
> > parties. C-SPAN has three television channels available on cable and
> > satellite television, and is broadcast on XM (channel 132) and Sirius
> > (Channel 139) satellite radio, as well as on several local radio
> > stations, and on the internet at:http://c-span.org/
> >
> > NumbersUSA Comment:
> > C-SPAN is a unique, non-partisan, non-profit, commercial-free
> > television and radio network, devoted to covering Congress and
> > political and cultural issues. C-SPAN features a morning call-in show
> > called 'Washington Journal" which is broadcast seven days a week,
> > including holidays. It begins at 7:00 a.m. and runs until 10:00 a.m.
> > Eastern Time (4:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. Pacific Time). When Congress is
> > in session, it often cuts away to the House or Senate floor action
> > earlier than 10:00 a.m.
> >
> > Listeners call C-SPAN from across America virtually every morning to
> > complain about the effects of illegal immigration. Most are bewildered
> > by what is happening to their country due to illegal immigration
> > numbers out of control. These folks are desperately searching for a
> > way to effectively express their concerns to Congress.
> >
> > A call to the C-SPAN audience THAT MENTIONS THE NUMBERSUSA.COM WEBSITE
> > and how easy the website makes it to contact Congress, can get the
> > word out to hundreds of thousands of Americans who don't get
> > NumbersUSA.com Action Alerts. Often, the caller can tell the audience
> > that Congress is about to vote on an immigration related bill, and
> > invite listeners to visit NumbersUSA.com to find out what they can do
> > to efficiently and effectively let Congress know what they think. We
> > can get help from thousands of non-members and recruit many new
> > members with just one phone call to this bi-partisan audience.
> >
> > NumbersUSA Comment:
> > Like most Americans, nearly all of these callers have never heard of
> > NumbersUSA.com, and they have no idea that NumbersUSA.com is available
> > to them, free of charge, to help them economically leverage their
> > efforts to make their views known to Congress. Thousands would join
> > NumbersUSA.com if they could hear of our existence and what we can
> > do.
> >
> > We appreciate you making this effort!
> >
> > Please tell us about your call!
> >
> > Submit my feedback!

One person can't possibly affect the world anymore in this day and age.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 2:11 pm
From: Don Stockbauer

One person can't possibly affect the world anymore in this day and age.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 4:08 pm
From: Lawyerkill

On Nov 1, 5:10?pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> greg3347 wrote:
> > On Nov 1, 11:01 am, gringogirl <sumarli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Help Us Double Our Membership: Call C-SPAN
> > > NUSA : October 31 , 2007 -- by NUSA
>
> > > Help us double our membership before the next big battle in Congress
> > > begins.
>
> > > Please call C-SPAN (c-span.org) to tell others about NumbersUSA.com,
> > > and invite the audience to join us to experience the satisfaction of
> > > sending a few faxes (and report cards!) to their Representatives and
> > > Senators.
>
> > > We need your help to get the word out
>
> > > about NumbersUSA.com to hundreds of thousands of these people who are
> > > interested in politics, aware of the need for action, but unaware of
> > > NumbersUSA.com. The hosts WELCOME callers to read out their favorite
> > > WEBSITE ADDRESSES, to make political statements, and to question
> > > political guests who are on the show.
>
> > > Note: Call anytime, but calling during the "Open Phones" segments is
> > > the best, because any and all subjects are welcome. "Open Phones" are
> > > generally 7:00 a.m. to about 7:45 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.
> > > Eastern time.
>
> > > Listeners/viewers can ask Washington Journal guests a question, or
> > > make a comment during Open Phone segments at:
>
> > > Support Republicans: (202) 737-0001
>
> > > Support Democrats: (202) 737-0002
>
> > > Support Independents: (202) 628-0205
>
> > > Outside U.S.: (202) 628-0184 What is C-SPAN?
>
> > > Callers reach a nationwide audience of all political views and
> > > parties. C-SPAN has three television channels available on cable and
> > > satellite television, and is broadcast on XM (channel 132) and Sirius
> > > (Channel 139) satellite radio, as well as on several local radio
> > > stations, and on the internet at:http://c-span.org/
>
> > > NumbersUSA Comment:
> > > C-SPAN is a unique, non-partisan, non-profit, commercial-free
> > > television and radio network, devoted to covering Congress and
> > > political and cultural issues. C-SPAN features a morning call-in show
> > > called 'Washington Journal" which is broadcast seven days a week,
> > > including holidays. It begins at 7:00 a.m. and runs until 10:00 a.m.
> > > Eastern Time (4:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. Pacific Time). When Congress is
> > > in session, it often cuts away to the House or Senate floor action
> > > earlier than 10:00 a.m.
>
> > > Listeners call C-SPAN from across America virtually every morning to
> > > complain about the effects of illegal immigration. Most are bewildered
> > > by what is happening to their country due to illegal immigration
> > > numbers out of control. These folks are desperately searching for a
> > > way to effectively express their concerns to Congress.
>
> > > A call to the C-SPAN audience THAT MENTIONS THE NUMBERSUSA.COM WEBSITE
> > > and how easy the website makes it to contact Congress, can get the
> > > word out to hundreds of thousands of Americans who don't get
> > > NumbersUSA.com Action Alerts. Often, the caller can tell the audience
> > > that Congress is about to vote on an immigration related bill, and
> > > invite listeners to visit NumbersUSA.com to find out what they can do
> > > to efficiently and effectively let Congress know what they think. We
> > > can get help from thousands of non-members and recruit many new
> > > members with just one phone call to this bi-partisan audience.
>
> > > NumbersUSA Comment:
> > > Like most Americans, nearly all of these callers have never heard of
> > > NumbersUSA.com, and they have no idea that NumbersUSA.com is available
> > > to them, free of charge, to help them economically leverage their
> > > efforts to make their views known to Congress. Thousands would join
> > > NumbersUSA.com if they could hear of our existence and what we can
> > > do.
>
> > > We appreciate you making this effort!
>
> > > Please tell us about your call!
>
> > > Submit my feedback!
>
> One person can't possibly affect the world anymore in this day and age.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Tell that to Bill Gates

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 7:38 pm
From: Mike

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:08:57 -0700, Lawyerkill wrote:

> On Nov 1, 5:10?pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> greg3347 wrote:
>> > On Nov 1, 11:01 am, gringogirl <sumarli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > Help Us Double Our Membership: Call C-SPAN NUSA : October 31 , 2007
>> > > -- by NUSA
>>
>> > > Help us double our membership before the next big battle in
>> > > Congress begins.
>>
>> > > Please call C-SPAN (c-span.org) to tell others about
>> > > NumbersUSA.com, and invite the audience to join us to experience
>> > > the satisfaction of sending a few faxes (and report cards!) to
>> > > their Representatives and Senators.
>>
>> > > We need your help to get the word out
>>
>> > > about NumbersUSA.com to hundreds of thousands of these people who
>> > > are interested in politics, aware of the need for action, but
>> > > unaware of NumbersUSA.com. The hosts WELCOME callers to read out
>> > > their favorite WEBSITE ADDRESSES, to make political statements, and
>> > > to question political guests who are on the show.
>>
>> > > Note: Call anytime, but calling during the "Open Phones" segments
>> > > is the best, because any and all subjects are welcome. "Open
>> > > Phones" are generally 7:00 a.m. to about 7:45 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. to
>> > > 10:00 a.m. Eastern time.
>>
>> > > Listeners/viewers can ask Washington Journal guests a question, or
>> > > make a comment during Open Phone segments at:
>>
>> > > Support Republicans: (202) 737-0001
>>
>> > > Support Democrats: (202) 737-0002
>>
>> > > Support Independents: (202) 628-0205
>>
>> > > Outside U.S.: (202) 628-0184 What is C-SPAN?
>>
>> > > Callers reach a nationwide audience of all political views and
>> > > parties. C-SPAN has three television channels available on cable
>> > > and satellite television, and is broadcast on XM (channel 132) and
>> > > Sirius (Channel 139) satellite radio, as well as on several local
>> > > radio stations, and on the internet at:http://c-span.org/
>>
>> > > NumbersUSA Comment:
>> > > C-SPAN is a unique, non-partisan, non-profit, commercial-free
>> > > television and radio network, devoted to covering Congress and
>> > > political and cultural issues. C-SPAN features a morning call-in
>> > > show called 'Washington Journal" which is broadcast seven days a
>> > > week, including holidays. It begins at 7:00 a.m. and runs until
>> > > 10:00 a.m. Eastern Time (4:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. Pacific Time). When
>> > > Congress is in session, it often cuts away to the House or Senate
>> > > floor action earlier than 10:00 a.m.
>>
>> > > Listeners call C-SPAN from across America virtually every morning
>> > > to complain about the effects of illegal immigration. Most are
>> > > bewildered by what is happening to their country due to illegal
>> > > immigration numbers out of control. These folks are desperately
>> > > searching for a way to effectively express their concerns to
>> > > Congress.
>>
>> > > A call to the C-SPAN audience THAT MENTIONS THE NUMBERSUSA.COM
>> > > WEBSITE and how easy the website makes it to contact Congress, can
>> > > get the word out to hundreds of thousands of Americans who don't
>> > > get NumbersUSA.com Action Alerts. Often, the caller can tell the
>> > > audience that Congress is about to vote on an immigration related
>> > > bill, and invite listeners to visit NumbersUSA.com to find out what
>> > > they can do to efficiently and effectively let Congress know what
>> > > they think. We can get help from thousands of non-members and
>> > > recruit many new members with just one phone call to this
>> > > bi-partisan audience.
>>
>> > > NumbersUSA Comment:
>> > > Like most Americans, nearly all of these callers have never heard
>> > > of NumbersUSA.com, and they have no idea that NumbersUSA.com is
>> > > available to them, free of charge, to help them economically
>> > > leverage their efforts to make their views known to Congress.
>> > > Thousands would join NumbersUSA.com if they could hear of our
>> > > existence and what we can do.
>>
>> > > We appreciate you making this effort!
>>
>> > > Please tell us about your call!
>>
>> > > Submit my feedback!
>>
>> One person can't possibly affect the world anymore in this day and
>> age.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Tell that to Bill Gates

replace the word "possibly" with "positively" and gates is excluded

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 9:16 pm
From: Doctor Frankenstein

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:10:54 -0700, Don Stockbauer
<donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>greg3347 wrote:
>> On Nov 1, 11:01 am, gringogirl <sumarli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Help Us Double Our Membership: Call C-SPAN
>> > NUSA : October 31 , 2007 -- by NUSA
>> >
>> > Help us double our membership before the next big battle in Congress
>> > begins.
>> >
>> > Please call C-SPAN (c-span.org) to tell others about NumbersUSA.com,
>> > and invite the audience to join us to experience the satisfaction of
>> > sending a few faxes (and report cards!) to their Representatives and
>> > Senators.
>> >
>> > We need your help to get the word out
>> >
>> > about NumbersUSA.com to hundreds of thousands of these people who are
>> > interested in politics, aware of the need for action, but unaware of
>> > NumbersUSA.com. The hosts WELCOME callers to read out their favorite
>> > WEBSITE ADDRESSES, to make political statements, and to question
>> > political guests who are on the show.
>> >
>> > Note: Call anytime, but calling during the "Open Phones" segments is
>> > the best, because any and all subjects are welcome. "Open Phones" are
>> > generally 7:00 a.m. to about 7:45 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.
>> > Eastern time.
>> >
>> > Listeners/viewers can ask Washington Journal guests a question, or
>> > make a comment during Open Phone segments at:
>> >
>> > Support Republicans: (202) 737-0001
>> >
>> > Support Democrats: (202) 737-0002
>> >
>> > Support Independents: (202) 628-0205
>> >
>> > Outside U.S.: (202) 628-0184 What is C-SPAN?
>> >
>> > Callers reach a nationwide audience of all political views and
>> > parties. C-SPAN has three television channels available on cable and
>> > satellite television, and is broadcast on XM (channel 132) and Sirius
>> > (Channel 139) satellite radio, as well as on several local radio
>> > stations, and on the internet at:http://c-span.org/
>> >
>> > NumbersUSA Comment:
>> > C-SPAN is a unique, non-partisan, non-profit, commercial-free
>> > television and radio network, devoted to covering Congress and
>> > political and cultural issues. C-SPAN features a morning call-in show
>> > called 'Washington Journal" which is broadcast seven days a week,
>> > including holidays. It begins at 7:00 a.m. and runs until 10:00 a.m.
>> > Eastern Time (4:00 a.m. to 7:00 a.m. Pacific Time). When Congress is
>> > in session, it often cuts away to the House or Senate floor action
>> > earlier than 10:00 a.m.
>> >
>> > Listeners call C-SPAN from across America virtually every morning to
>> > complain about the effects of illegal immigration. Most are bewildered
>> > by what is happening to their country due to illegal immigration
>> > numbers out of control. These folks are desperately searching for a
>> > way to effectively express their concerns to Congress.
>> >
>> > A call to the C-SPAN audience THAT MENTIONS THE NUMBERSUSA.COM WEBSITE
>> > and how easy the website makes it to contact Congress, can get the
>> > word out to hundreds of thousands of Americans who don't get
>> > NumbersUSA.com Action Alerts. Often, the caller can tell the audience
>> > that Congress is about to vote on an immigration related bill, and
>> > invite listeners to visit NumbersUSA.com to find out what they can do
>> > to efficiently and effectively let Congress know what they think. We
>> > can get help from thousands of non-members and recruit many new
>> > members with just one phone call to this bi-partisan audience.
>> >
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 3:14 pm
From: "lee h"

Oren wrote:
>
> Correction fluid was used by supervisors to correct errors on the
> monitor.

CRT or LCD? Blonde supervisors?

> One person that had a money connection to correction fluid
> was in prison. It became water based later.. banned for employees.

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 3:19 pm
From: The Real Bev

timeOday wrote:

> Goomba38 wrote:
>> rick++ wrote:
>>> Frugal is paying the lowest for basic functionallity,
>>> not the highest luxury you can get for a given cost
>>> in my opinion. If burlap would do the job, and it was
>>> avialabel and chepest, then I'd use that.
>>>
>> You are mistaken, IMO. Frugality is deciding what you want and getting
>> it for the best price. It is not imposing your lowest acceptable level
>> of quality or functionality on others.
>
> I agree with your definition.
>
> However, sheets are a matter of personal taste. Why do I want "silky"
> sheets? I don't wear silky shirts, most days. So instead of worrying
> about thread count, why not just feel all the different sheets at the
> store and buy the cheapest ones you like?

My mom always bought percale sheets (~200 count, I think). My friend loved
them because they were so smooth. I liked the cheap muslin sheets her mom
bought because they were a little rough.

I don't like the way microfiber feels either.

--
Cheers,
Bev
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Linux -- the ultimate freebie!

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 3:59 pm
From: timeOday

Chloe wrote:
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
> news:ULednRXBkLlnjLfanZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>> rick++ wrote:
>>>> Frugal is paying the lowest for basic functionallity,
>>>> not the highest luxury you can get for a given cost
>>>> in my opinion. If burlap would do the job, and it was
>>>> avialabel and chepest, then I'd use that.
>>>>
>>> You are mistaken, IMO. Frugality is deciding what you want and getting
>>> it for the best price. It is not imposing your lowest acceptable level
>>> of quality or functionality on others.
>> I agree with your definition.
>>
>> However, sheets are a matter of personal taste. Why do I want "silky"
>> sheets? I don't wear silky shirts, most days. So instead of worrying
>> about thread count, why not just feel all the different sheets at the
>> store and buy the cheapest ones you like?
>
> If you don't care how long they last, and by that I mean how long it is
> before they develop large rips and tears, then sure, go with cheapest.

Are you sure higher thread count equates to durability? I would think
weaving in a little poly would make sheets last for a long time. Or
that different fabrics might use different weight threads. But I'm no
expert.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 5:43 pm
From: "Chloe"

"timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
news:xsidnY0RSrjvx7fanZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcast.com...
> Chloe wrote:
>> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
>> news:ULednRXBkLlnjLfanZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>>> rick++ wrote:
>>>>> Frugal is paying the lowest for basic functionallity,
>>>>> not the highest luxury you can get for a given cost
>>>>> in my opinion. If burlap would do the job, and it was
>>>>> avialabel and chepest, then I'd use that.
>>>>>
>>>> You are mistaken, IMO. Frugality is deciding what you want and getting
>>>> it for the best price. It is not imposing your lowest acceptable level
>>>> of quality or functionality on others.
>>> I agree with your definition.
>>>
>>> However, sheets are a matter of personal taste. Why do I want "silky"
>>> sheets? I don't wear silky shirts, most days. So instead of worrying
>>> about thread count, why not just feel all the different sheets at the
>>> store and buy the cheapest ones you like?
>>
>> If you don't care how long they last, and by that I mean how long it is
>> before they develop large rips and tears, then sure, go with cheapest.
>
> Are you sure higher thread count equates to durability? I would think
> weaving in a little poly would make sheets last for a long time. Or
> that different fabrics might use different weight threads. But I'm no
> expert.

Pretty good article here: note the final paragraph on the second page

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Moms/story?id=1751253&page=1

and

http://reviews.ebay.com/TRUTH-ABOUT-THREAD-COUNT-EGYPTIAN-COTTON-SHEETS-BED-SET_W0QQugidZ10000000001274215
>

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 8:46 pm
From: James

On Nov 1, 8:43 pm, "Chloe" <justsa...@spam.com> wrote:
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
>
> news:xsidnY0RSrjvx7fanZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Chloe wrote:
> >> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
> >>news:ULednRXBkLlnjLfanZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>> Goomba38 wrote:
> >>>> rick++ wrote:
> >>>>> Frugal is paying the lowest for basic functionallity,
> >>>>> not the highest luxury you can get for a given cost
> >>>>> in my opinion. If burlap would do the job, and it was
> >>>>> avialabel and chepest, then I'd use that.
>
> >>>> You are mistaken, IMO. Frugality is deciding what you want and getting
> >>>> it for the best price. It is not imposing your lowest acceptable level
> >>>> of quality or functionality on others.
> >>> I agree with your definition.
>
> >>> However, sheets are a matter of personal taste. Why do I want "silky"
> >>> sheets? I don't wear silky shirts, most days. So instead of worrying
> >>> about thread count, why not just feel all the different sheets at the
> >>> store and buy the cheapest ones you like?
>
> >> If you don't care how long they last, and by that I mean how long it is
> >> before they develop large rips and tears, then sure, go with cheapest.
>
> > Are you sure higher thread count equates to durability? I would think
> > weaving in a little poly would make sheets last for a long time. Or
> > that different fabrics might use different weight threads. But I'm no
> > expert.
>
> Pretty good article here: note the final paragraph on the second page
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Moms/story?id=1751253&page=1
>
> and
>
> http://reviews.ebay.com/TRUTH-ABOUT-THREAD-COUNT-EGYPTIAN-COTTON-SHEE...
>
>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Unless one sleeps in the nude, the sheets don't really matter much.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 11:43 pm
From: Anthony Matonak

James wrote:
...
> Unless one sleeps in the nude, the sheets don't really matter much.

Are you suggesting that people don't sleep in the nude? Except during
the very cold winters, where the glass of water on the nightstand
freezes over, I can't think of any good reason to get all dressed
up to go to bed.

Anthony

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 1 2007 5:20 pm
From: Ted

On Nov 1, 5:10 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
> Nov 01, 2007
>
> SAN DIEGO, Calif. -- Many of the victims of the California wildfires
> were undocumented immigrants, reports Spanish-language newspaper La
> Opinión. According to figures from the California Office of Emergency
> Services, at least 50 of the 130 injured individuals are undocumented
> immigrants who were rescued by Border Patrol agents in the San Diego
> area. Some of the injured attempted to cross the border without
> documents and got caught in the flames. Wendy Lee, spokesperson for the
> U.S. Border Patrol, said that as of last Sunday, the agency had rescued
> approximately 200 immigrants.
>
> On Oct. 25 four badly burned bodies were found along a route used by
> migrants. The Mexican Consulate is assisting in identifying the bodies
> and in providing assistance to those individuals who are being hospitalized.
>
> Some undocumented immigrants in agricultural areas did not evacuate, and
> were told to continue working, reports La Opinión. Various immigrants
> explained to La Opinión that they did not leave their jobs for financial
> reasons and out of fear that they would be punished by their supervisors.
>
> http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=46a62875f...
>
> This is better than living in Mexico?
> --
>
> Tancredo for Presidenthttp://teamtancredo.org/http://tancredo.house.gov/

Naturally, these injured criminal invaders will receive the very best
medical treatment
at our expense. The millions of coming costs could be used to assist
our
senior citizens. Build that border fence; round-up and deport all
illegal aliens.

ted

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