Wednesday, August 22, 2007

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* OT Looking For A New Job - 12 messages, 10 authors
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* Top 10 money drains - 7 messages, 5 authors
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* Turn your computer into a cash machine - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Simpler solar attics - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Replying to trolls only gets you blocked too - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Saving money - 1 messages, 1 author
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* cheap guuci prada jordan kobe LV psp - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: OT Looking For A New Job
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 3:39 pm
From: "Don K"


"Millhaven" <millhaven@intergate.com> wrote in message
news:1187814866.019146.107950@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>I want a job where I can listen to music while working. Any ideas?

1. An usher at a symphony hall.
2. The "It's a Small World" exhibit at Disney World.

Don

== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 4:42 pm
From: "Joe"


>>>I want a job where I can listen to music while working. Any ideas?
>
>>Elevator operator.
>
> I think that job was phased out around 1960. Your next bet would be
> getting off your butt and become self employed.

Only if you want to get paid for it...
--


Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R

Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"
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== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:01 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com


On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:23:40 -0700, Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:34:26 -0700, Millhaven
><millhaven@intergate.com> wrote:
>
>>I want a job where I can listen to music while working. Any ideas?
>
>Pole dancer ?
>Dennis (evil)

DAMMIT!!!! That was too good a response. A waste of my fine mist of
scotch.

In a weak attempt to keep up----

I didn't know Millhaven was Polish.

== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:03 pm
From: "Chloe"


"Millhaven" <millhaven@intergate.com> wrote in message
news:1187814866.019146.107950@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>I want a job where I can listen to music while working. Any ideas?

Church organist.


== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:13 pm
From: val189


On Aug 22, 4:34 pm, Millhaven <millha...@intergate.com> wrote:
> I want a job where I can listen to music while working. Any ideas?

Supermarket produce section - I know one which plays "Singin' in the
Rain" every half hour when the veggies are misted.

== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:26 pm
From: Ward Abbott


On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:42:16 GMT, "Joe"
<really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:

>Only if you want to get paid for it...

The ONLY motivation of being self employed is that YOU GET TO KEEP all
your income. I have been self employed for 38 years and never
considered doing it without pay.


== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:41 pm
From: George Grapman


Ward Abbott wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:42:16 GMT, "Joe"
> <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:
>
>> Only if you want to get paid for it...
>
> The ONLY motivation of being self employed is that YOU GET TO KEEP all
> your income. I have been self employed for 38 years and never
> considered doing it without pay.
>
>
There are other incentives:

No one will override your decisions.
You can not be fired.
Other employees can not hurt you,you have to do it to yourself.
No fears of employee theft or pilferage.

== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 6:02 pm
From: Shawn Hirn


In article <1187814866.019146.107950@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Millhaven <millhaven@intergate.com> wrote:

> I want a job where I can listen to music while working. Any ideas?

One of my colleagues sits at his desk with head phones on and works
while listening to music. He's an computer systems manager.

== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 6:18 pm
From: Logan Shaw


Millhaven wrote:
> I want a job where I can listen to music while working. Any ideas?

Easy: become a Grammy-Award-winning record producer.

- Logan

== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 6:20 pm
From: Logan Shaw


hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:23:40 -0700, Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:34:26 -0700, Millhaven
>> <millhaven@intergate.com> wrote:

>>> I want a job where I can listen to music while working. Any ideas?

>> Pole dancer ?

> I didn't know Millhaven was Polish.

He's not. In fact, he's the polar opposite.

- Logan

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 6:26 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Ward Abbott <presby@terian.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:42:16 GMT, "Joe"
> <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:
>
>> Only if you want to get paid for it...

> The ONLY motivation of being self employed
> is that YOU GET TO KEEP all your income.

Nope, you also get to decide the detail of how things are done too.

> I have been self employed for 38 years and never considered doing it without pay.

Plenty have tho.


== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 7:30 pm
From: "Joe"


>>Only if you want to get paid for it...
>
> The ONLY motivation of being self employed is that YOU GET TO KEEP all
> your income. I have been self employed for 38 years and never
> considered doing it without pay.


No... No... No... You missed the point. The post said something about
listening to music at work... Reply was be an elevator operator. The next
reply said something about those jobs disappearing years ago... My point
was that anyone can stand in an elevator, get free music and push buttons
for others all day if they want to... Or at least until security finds out
and has a problem with their kindness - or theft of musak, depending on the
lawyers involved.

It was not meant to say that he could somehow make money off it. It was
meant to show that weirdoes like me can get joy out of doing stupid,
harmless stuff.

Just imagine the reactions after years of doing it when someone notices you
are gone and says, "Hey, so-and-so, the elevator guy, got fired I guess!"
and their friend's reply is, "Fired? He was never an employee. He was
simply mentally ill like that guy from Northern NJ..."

...Okay... I gotta go get some sleep...

Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R

Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"
http://yunx.com/valk.htm

Ride a motorcycle in or near NJ?
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 3:58 pm
From: ""


On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:40:26 -0700, Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG
<Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG> wrote:

>>
>> and, why do I have to buy auto insurance
>> to cover myself,
>> and to cover the "uninsured motorist" ??
>
>
>"Uninsured motorist" coverage is to cover YOU when the person
>responsible for the accident doesn't have liability insurance.

That's what I said.....
I must buy insurance for myself,
and pay extra to protect myself
from the turd who chooses not to buy insurance.

<rj>

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 4:04 pm
From: ""


On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:39:52 GMT, George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:

> Your home phone. So many people just sign up with the dominant local
>phone carrier and make no effort to sign up for any calling plans and
>they make the same company their default long distance company.
>Also,people who make few or no long distance calls are often unaware
>that they do not have to have a long distance carrier.

I'm always amazed at how they can rachet up
basic phone service ( $12 ) to a $22 phone bill....

I dumped "long distance" some time ago.
They tax and sir-charge those calls to death.

TARGETsells ATT phone cards for as little as three cents a minute.

I put the access # and pin # into speed-dial,
and it's really convenient to use.

We also carry the card when traveling.
It really saves on hotel/motel phone charges.

<rj>

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 4:30 pm
From: Gordon


jdoe <jdoe@aol.com> wrote in news:4o1pc3dcib10kl9la63gufj1gjhfrfmd46@
4ax.com:

>>I'm amazed at how many people line up at the coffee shop drive-thrus
>>in the morning. It really is incredibly easy to use a coffee maker,
>>they even have timer ones that will have the coffee ready when you get
>>out of bed. And you can get muffins at home a lot cheaper than the
>>coffee shop. Plus lining up is a real time waster.
>
> maybe it's not hard for you but for many people it is hard to make a
> decent cup of coffee.
>

Yea. For the many people who work at Starbucks. Bleh!! I hate that
Coffee!

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 4:32 pm
From: George Grapman


<RJ> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:39:52 GMT, George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Your home phone. So many people just sign up with the dominant local
>> phone carrier and make no effort to sign up for any calling plans and
>> they make the same company their default long distance company.
>> Also,people who make few or no long distance calls are often unaware
>> that they do not have to have a long distance carrier.
>
> I'm always amazed at how they can rachet up
> basic phone service ( $12 ) to a $22 phone bill....
>
> I dumped "long distance" some time ago.
> They tax and sir-charge those calls to death.
>
> TARGETsells ATT phone cards for as little as three cents a minute.

Yes, and it is a clean three cents except for the pay phone surcharge
which all cards have. When i was in that business I got tired of trying
to explain how a clean 5 cent card was a better buy than a 1 cent card
with numerous surcharges i.e, the "Penny Card" which charges a 49 cent
connect fee per call.
>
> I put the access # and pin # into speed-dial,
> and it's really convenient to use.
>
> We also carry the card when traveling.
> It really saves on hotel/motel phone charges.
>
> <rj>

Be careful, some hotels charge for calls to 800 numbers.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:22 pm
From: val189


On Aug 22, 2:50 pm, throwitout <throwit...@dodgeit.com> wrote:

> I'm amazed at how many people line up at the coffee shop drive-thrus
> in the morning. It really is incredibly easy to use a coffee maker,
> they even have timer ones that will have the coffee ready when you get
> out of bed. And you can get muffins at home a lot cheaper than the
> coffee shop. Plus lining up is a real time waster.

At a DD recently, I counted ten vehicles in line at the driveup - I
got fast service inside, (no one waiting) and when I left, a certain
blue truck had only moved three spaces. He had to be about ten
minutes away from the window.


And what type
> of mixed drinks are these?

Two Sambuccas at a trendy spot recently spoiled a twenty,with tip.
AND they didn't even toss in any coffee beans.

>
> Do people actually care this much about their nails?
>

I'd love to lay hands on a yellow pages of, say, 1980, and compare the
nail shop listings. And yet, they all seem to survive.

> But those people help subsidize the memberships for people that go,
> and allow the gym to offer better facilities for less.

I consider it money well spent - if I didn't pay, I know I wouldn't
exercise on my own.


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:54 pm
From: "SpammersDie"

"<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:m0qmc3h8o2u9ijag4gul15ipp3lq5uc5ip@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:58:53 -0400, "Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>The part of the coverage that's explicitly called "uninsured motorist"
>>pays
>>YOU if you suffer damages as a result of the fault of someone with no
>>insurance. I guess if you don't want it, you shouldn't have to buy it, but
>>the point is that it doesn't pay them.
>>
> My point exactly !
>
> I have to buy insurance coverage to protect my liablity,
>
> then, I have to buy insurance coverage to protect myself
> from those who choose not to buy insurance coverage.....

The algorithm for determining how risky you is very different for the two
coverages so it makes sense for them to be sold and quoted as separate
products.

Also, the latter is optional (in many states, anyway) so another reason not
to bundle them.

If you want to reduce the cost of UM coverage, lobby for stricter
verification of financial responsibility when registering a vehicle or
renewing a drivers license and get new legislation passed to increase the
minimum required coverage limits and make failure to obey the financial
responsibility laws a capital offense (ok, you won't ever get that passed
but at least, make the penalties stiffer than they are now.) Reduce the
number of uninsured drivers out there and you reduce the risk.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 7:06 pm
From: George Grapman


SpammersDie wrote:
> "<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in message
> news:m0qmc3h8o2u9ijag4gul15ipp3lq5uc5ip@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:58:53 -0400, "Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com> wrote:
>>> The part of the coverage that's explicitly called "uninsured motorist"
>>> pays
>>> YOU if you suffer damages as a result of the fault of someone with no
>>> insurance. I guess if you don't want it, you shouldn't have to buy it, but
>>> the point is that it doesn't pay them.
>>>
>> My point exactly !
>>
>> I have to buy insurance coverage to protect my liablity,
>>
>> then, I have to buy insurance coverage to protect myself
>> from those who choose not to buy insurance coverage.....
>
> The algorithm for determining how risky you is very different for the two
> coverages so it makes sense for them to be sold and quoted as separate
> products.
>
> Also, the latter is optional (in many states, anyway) so another reason not
> to bundle them.
>
> If you want to reduce the cost of UM coverage, lobby for stricter
> verification of financial responsibility when registering a vehicle or
> renewing a drivers license and get new legislation passed to increase the
> minimum required coverage limits and make failure to obey the financial
> responsibility laws a capital offense (ok, you won't ever get that passed
> but at least, make the penalties stiffer than they are now.) Reduce the
> number of uninsured drivers out there and you reduce the risk.
>
The problem in many states is that even though you need to show proof
of insurance to register the car people can make a down payment and let
the insurance lapse.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:16 pm
From: rutgerskevin


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:29 pm
From: Anthony Matonak


HeyBub wrote:
> I applied to give a seminar entitled: "Whale Oil - The Renewable Resource"
> and the nay-sayers at the festival turned me down.

Perhaps you should give a lecture on Vivoleum.
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Anthony


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:36 pm
From: BeaForoni@msn.com


On Aug 22, 7:00 am, Al Bundy <MSfort...@mcpmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 10:23 am, "Melissa" <nos...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Al Bundy" <MSfort...@mcpmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1187777462.538211.172780@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Aug 21, 11:33 am, "Melissa" <nos...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > Those of you who can't resist replying to the plethora of trolls are
> > only
> > > > getting yourselves blocked as well. It's too bad, some of you might have
> > > > things to post that I and others might appreciate.
>
> > > > Melissa
>
> > > So lets all panic and keep out mouths shut? If some folks are not
> > > capable of filtering their own input media properly, too bad if they
> > > miss things.
>
> > I can easily just delete posts without blocking people. The point is, if no
> > one would respond to the trolls, they might stop. They're just looking for
> > attention, which we shouldn't give them by responding. They aren't looking
> > for dialogue, they're the newsnet equivalent of the shock jocks.
>
> > Melissa
>
> That's generally true, but who can resist sometimes wanting to get his
> or her story out? And sometimes the line between a troll and a part
> time dope is not that clear. I find it easy enough to bypass what I
> don't want and decide on a daily basis. Some groups have been all but
> ruined by Chinese spammers and the M5 posters. It's like weathering a
> passing storm until they relent and we can go back to normal.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


>That's generally true<

Not in your wildest dreams.

>but<

You don't know what you're talking about.

>who can resist sometimes<

not even possible

>wanting to get his or her story out?<

Mindless stuff comrade


Thank you very much

Rod Speed Jr.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 6:16 pm
From: Logan Shaw


clams casino wrote:
> ChampDog wrote:

>> Your website force us to download a php file, weird.

> Actually, it's common and should be obvious -
>
> Before you link with spam such as this - "An analysis by Google found
> that 10% of all web pages are equipped to secretly download spyware and
> other malicious code on user's computers.

PHP is probably not a very good attack vector, since probably 0.0001% of
Windows users have gone to the trouble of installing a PHP interpreter.

It's much more likely to be a configuration error on the web server,
where it's spitting out PHP source code instead of interpreting it
on the server side like it's supposed to.

- Logan


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