Frugal Living: 24 new messages in 13 topics

Wednesday, October 3, 2007

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TOPIC: Bank Loans
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 1:03 am
From: "graham.booch@gmail.com"

Hello,

I have found a resource providing information about loans...

http://www.cash-experts.com/bankloans.asp

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 3:38 am
From: clams casino

graham.booch@gmail.com wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I have found a resource providing information about loans...
>
>
>
>

You found your own site? and came here to brag about your brilliance?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 5:49 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <1191398580.772664.318410@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"graham.booch@gmail.com" <graham.booch@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have found a resource providing information about loans...
>

For a financially oriented web site that really is geared toward
consumers' needs and doesn't need to spam, try http://www.bankrate.com

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TOPIC: How do I know if I have good blank DVD media
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6b4db90d576019f0?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 1:07 am
From: KCat

On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 06:39:50 -0700, ** Frank ** wrote:

> don't buy the store junk brand
> Stick with known quality brands.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm says "understand that the
media brand means nothing".

"It is the media ID that is important". Since "this is not written on
packaging or anywhere else", you'll need programs to decipher the media ID.

For Windows, try DVD Identifier (free), DVDInfo (free), ImgBurn (free), DVD
Decrypter (free). For Macintosh OS X: DVD Media Inspector (free). For
Linux: dvd+rw-mediainfo (free).

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 6:27 am
From: "Amused"

"CoMa" <hubbabub-nys@algonet.se> wrote in message
news:r1d6g3l3vkctkv64ue8ntn5lptupjn0vh1@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 00:48:40 -0400, "Alfred Einstein" <al@fred.com> wrote:
>
>>"** Frank **" <noemall@xyz.net> wrote in message
>>news:d5ednXVfUsq015_anZ2dnUVZ_rOpnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Don't know, but don't buy the store junk brand especially from Fry's
>>> junk
>>> GQ(Great Quality) media. Great for hanging on fruit trees to scare off
>>> the
>>> birds though. Stick with known quality brands.
>>
>>The OP wants to know what brand to buy ... he doesn't know what brand. So
>>you say "stick with known quality brands". That's no answer at all.
>
>
> Blank media quality guide & FAQ
> http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
>
>
> DVD Identifier
> http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
> DVD Identifier offers a reliable method of accurately
> identifying a disc's REAL manufacturer.
>
>

Thanks for the info. I downloaded and installed the DVD Identifier and
tested the two different stacks of DVD disks I happened to have.
First stack was Verbatim made by Mitsubishi Chemical, and ranked "First
Class"
The second stack was Memorex made by CMC Magnetics, ranked "Fourth Class"

---This pretty much explains some of the intermittent problems we've had
only I didn't realize that it could be laid at the doorstep of the disk
manufacturer.

James....

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 9:29 am
From: Fred the Red Shirt

On Oct 2, 8:13 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fred the Red Shirt <fredfigh...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 4:40 am, hansonfox <hansen.J....@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:05:12 +0000 (UTC), -Art- (not Art) wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:18:26 -0400, TJ wrote:
> >>>> I want to convert avi files into DVDs
>
> >> DVDFlickfreewarehttp://www.dvdflick.net
>
> >> Just drag the AVI file onto DVD flick and it will create the DVD
> >> files.
>
> > I've been trying to use DVDFlick 1.2.2.1 bluild 442 and Roxio Build:
> > 2.4.32b to create a DVD from some of the Star Trek: Hidden Frontier
> > files after downloading them in Apple Quicktime (.mov) format.
>
> > I've tried creating merging a couple of the shorter episodes into one
> > iso file with one chapter per video source, and also tried putting a
> > longer one one with one chapter every ten minutes. In both cases
> > I get a iso that autoplays when I open it with VLC media player.
> > Clicking on the VLC media player menu button does nothing and
> > the playlist only shows one file.
> > If I burn the iso file to a DVD using Roxio, it does the same thing.
> > What's up with that?
>
> You need to setup a proper menu with the two
> separate episodes as separate entrys in the menu.

Thanks. I'm pretty sure that I checked through all of the
pages under the :"Edit File" and "Project Settings" buttons,
and see no option to setup a menu, let alone a 'proper'
one. :-)

I also see no mention of how to setup menus in the Guide.

Can you point me to the feature to which you refer?

>
> > Do other users here get better results?
>
> Yep.
>

Hmm, does this mean that I have a bum version of DVDFlick?

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 9:39 am
From: Kat Mandu

Amused wrote:

>>
>> DVD Identifier
>> http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
>> DVD Identifier offers a reliable method of accurately
>> identifying a disc's REAL manufacturer.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for the info. I downloaded and installed the DVD Identifier and
> tested the two different stacks of DVD disks I happened to have.
> First stack was Verbatim made by Mitsubishi Chemical, and ranked "First
> Class"
> The second stack was Memorex made by CMC Magnetics, ranked "Fourth Class"
>
> ---This pretty much explains some of the intermittent problems we've had
> only I didn't realize that it could be laid at the doorstep of the disk
> manufacturer.
>
> James....

Hmm. I use DVD Identifier, as well, and have never noticed it appraising
DVDs as to class ("First Class," "Fourth Class"). And I just
double-checked to see if I'd been missing something obvious. Where in
DVD Identifier did you see these classifications of your DVDs?

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TOPIC: Frugal air travel tips
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f74cce039262a897?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 3:40 am
From: "345ddd"

Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> Don K wrote:
>>
>>> On long flights I like to take along an MP3 player. Mine has an
>>> FM tuner built-in and sometimes I'll listen to the various stations
>>> you can tune in at 20-30K feet.
>>
>> It's *strictly* against FAA regulations for passengers to operate
>> radio receivers in - flight, it could potentially interfere with the
>> navigational electronics...
>
> I just had to look this one up myself.
>
> http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2006/janqtr/14cfr91.21.htm
>
> (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, no person
> may operate, nor may any operator or pilot in command of an aircraft
> allow the operation of, any portable electronic device on any of the
> following U.S.-registered civil aircraft:
> (1) Aircraft operated by a holder of an air carrier operating
> certificate or an operating certificate; or
> (2) Any other aircraft while it is operated under IFR.
>
> (b) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to--
> (1) Portable voice recorders;
> (2) Hearing aids;
> (3) Heart pacemakers;
> (4) Electric shavers; or
> (5) Any other portable electronic device that the operator of the
> aircraft has determined will not cause interference with the
> navigation or communication system of the aircraft on which it is to
> be used.

Mindlessly silly, that bans electronic watches and cameras.

> Chances are that an MP3 player that contains an FM radio also has
> a voice recorder. The way I read it, this means that such an MP3
> Player falls under (b)(1) and maybe (b)(5) and the ban does not apply.

Wrong, as always.

> Radio transmitters, especially cell phones, are another thing entirely and it looks like the FCC is the one that bans
> the use of cell phones in flight.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

> Not because it'll mess with the airplane but because they think it'll mess with the cell phone system itself.

Not a fucking clue, as always.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 4:38 am
From: "Don K"

"Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:47032f7b$0$4981$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Gregory Morrow wrote:

> (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, no person
> may operate, nor may any operator or pilot in command of an aircraft
> allow the operation of, any portable electronic device on any of the
> following U.S.-registered civil aircraft:
> (1) Aircraft operated by a holder of an air carrier operating
> certificate or an operating certificate; or
> (2) Any other aircraft while it is operated under IFR.
>
> (b) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to--
> (1) Portable voice recorders;
> (2) Hearing aids;
> (3) Heart pacemakers;
> (4) Electric shavers; or
> (5) Any other portable electronic device that the operator of the
> aircraft has determined will not cause interference with the navigation
> or communication system of the aircraft on which it is to be used.
>
> Chances are that an MP3 player that contains an FM radio also has
> a voice recorder. The way I read it, this means that such an MP3 Player
> falls under (b)(1) and maybe (b)(5) and the ban does not apply.

I'd say (b)(5) applies.
During the flight, the stewardess will announce something scripted
to the effect that it's now ok to turn on "those electronic devices".
I take that as official permission.

There's a separate announcement that using cell phones is not permitted
once the plane is airborne.

Don

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 7:01 am
From: rick++

I fly about once a month and its been years since Ive seen an empty
seat on a plane.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 7:23 am
From: William Souden

345ddd wrote:
> Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>> Don K wrote:
>>>
>>>> On long flights I like to take along an MP3 player. Mine has an
>>>> FM tuner built-in and sometimes I'll listen to the various stations
>>>> you can tune in at 20-30K feet.
>>> It's *strictly* against FAA regulations for passengers to operate
>>> radio receivers in - flight, it could potentially interfere with the
>>> navigational electronics...
>> I just had to look this one up myself.
>>
>> http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2006/janqtr/14cfr91.21.htm
>>
>> (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, no person
>> may operate, nor may any operator or pilot in command of an aircraft
>> allow the operation of, any portable electronic device on any of the
>> following U.S.-registered civil aircraft:
>> (1) Aircraft operated by a holder of an air carrier operating
>> certificate or an operating certificate; or
>> (2) Any other aircraft while it is operated under IFR.
>>
>> (b) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to--
>> (1) Portable voice recorders;
>> (2) Hearing aids;
>> (3) Heart pacemakers;
>> (4) Electric shavers; or
>> (5) Any other portable electronic device that the operator of the
>> aircraft has determined will not cause interference with the
>> navigation or communication system of the aircraft on which it is to
>> be used.
>
> Mindlessly silly, that bans electronic watches and cameras.
>
>> Chances are that an MP3 player that contains an FM radio also has
>> a voice recorder. The way I read it, this means that such an MP3
>> Player falls under (b)(1) and maybe (b)(5) and the ban does not apply.
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
>> Radio transmitters, especially cell phones, are another thing entirely and it looks like the FCC is the one that bans
>> the use of cell phones in flight.
>
> Not a fucking clue, as always.
>
>> Not because it'll mess with the airplane but because they think it'll mess with the cell phone system itself.
>
> Not a fucking clue, as always.
>
>
Why the new name,welfare boy? No need to even look at the headers as
we know who it is.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 7:27 am
From: William Souden

rick++ wrote:
> I fly about once a month and its been years since Ive seen an empty
> seat on a plane.
>
>
The last 3 round trips I made all had at least the middle seat empty
and one had all three. Fly from CA to NY in the morning or at the end of
the work day and the plane will be crowded. Fly late at night and you
have a better chance.
Only my last flight from NY it was a holiday afternoon. The from of
the coach section was full but most of the final few rows had empty
seats in the middle and the one set of seats in the last row was empty.
People grab those front seats so they can get off sooner and wait for
their luggage.

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TOPIC: How much do you pay to get your furnace serviced?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 4:21 am
From: "Janie"

"Joe" <joe5345@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191346608.208927.94070@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> I'm a new homeowner and was told that I should have my oil furnace
> cleaned and serviced every year. I've gotten a couple of quotes that
> vary between 100-200 dollars. How much do you pay each year?

I have a newer gas furnace; the annual service charge is now $69.00. I
generally have the furnace professionally serviced once every three years,
and clean it myself in between professional visits.
>

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TOPIC: Gone to the Dogs
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 5:44 am
From: "Melissa"

"Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4702b1ca$0$18914$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Melissa wrote:
> > "Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in
message
> ...
> >> You probably aren't reading the newsgroup off a server in Nigeria
> >> or China. Your local ISP could be much more aggressive in filtering
> >> out messages from known spam countries.
> >
> > I can't even get our ISP (Time Warner) to filter obvious nasty spam
coming
> > through the email. Even when sent headers etc. they do nothing. I've
blocked
> > most of the emails, but just haven't taken the time to write all the
filters
> > for news.
>
> Just because they don't take any responsibility for dealing with
> criminals doesn't mean they can't do anything. You, as a lone voice
> crying out in the darkness, might not get heard but if you band
> together with similarly pissed off people then perhaps they would
> do something.
>
> I see no reason why China should be able to damage the Internet in
> the United States without our government getting involved. Isn't
> one of the reasons you have a government is to help protect you
> against threats from other countries?
>
> Anthony

I don't want the government deciding what I can and can't read. It's a
slippery slope, and one we shouldn't get started on. There is a difference
between an ISP blocking spam and the government stepping in, making laws,
and getting involved in what we can read or not read online. I'd rather deal
with the spam and have the law makers stay out of it.

Melissa

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 6:05 am
From: clams casino

Melissa wrote:

>"Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:4702b1ca$0$18914$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
>>Melissa wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in
>>>
>>>
>message
>
>
>>...
>>
>>
>>>>You probably aren't reading the newsgroup off a server in Nigeria
>>>>or China. Your local ISP could be much more aggressive in filtering
>>>>out messages from known spam countries.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I can't even get our ISP (Time Warner) to filter obvious nasty spam
>>>
>>>
>coming
>
>
>>>through the email. Even when sent headers etc. they do nothing. I've
>>>
>>>
>blocked
>
>
>>>most of the emails, but just haven't taken the time to write all the
>>>
>>>
>filters
>
>
>>>for news.
>>>
>>>
>>Just because they don't take any responsibility for dealing with
>>criminals doesn't mean they can't do anything. You, as a lone voice
>>crying out in the darkness, might not get heard but if you band
>>together with similarly pissed off people then perhaps they would
>>do something.
>>
>>I see no reason why China should be able to damage the Internet in
>>the United States without our government getting involved. Isn't
>>one of the reasons you have a government is to help protect you
>>against threats from other countries?
>>
>>Anthony
>>
>>
>
>I don't want the government deciding what I can and can't read. It's a
>slippery slope, and one we shouldn't get started on. There is a difference
>between an ISP blocking spam and the government stepping in, making laws,
>and getting involved in what we can read or not read online. I'd rather deal
>with the spam and have the law makers stay out of it.
>
>Melissa
>
>Melissa
>
>
>
>
The government should not be involved, but the local ISPs should block
domains with excessive spam, if for no reason than costing them band width.

A few such blocks would wake up the abusive domains. If you follow the
spam, most newsgroup spam arrive via google groups, primarily from
China, India & Pakistan.

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Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 7:32 am
From: Rick

Duke of Hazard wrote:
>
> On Oct 1, 8:39 pm, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It just keeps getting worse. I wonder why this group gets so much more than
> > others?
> >
> > Bob
>
> I agree, I follow many groups and something weird has taken over this
> one. I notice it is often linked from groups.google.com , so maybe
> that's where it's starting from. There is too much to report. We need
> a moderated group. Anyone know how to create one?

Sure. Who wants to be the moderator? And be chained to the group for the
rest of your life, deleting the SPAM from a dedicated mail box, editing
the approved messages to insert an approval code, and forwarding the
approved messages to the group?

Or just run away from the group, leaving yet another dead moderated
group. Once that happens it's not easy for someone else to take over a
moderated group when the existing moderator just abandons the process
and disappears. That process can take months.

If anyone wants to seriously consider doing it though visit the group:

alt.config

to begin the proposal process.

Rick

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TOPIC: What's the going rate for magazine freelance writing?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 8:53 am
From: Ken Knecht

"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in news:fdtign$s6l$1@aioe.org:

> Just curious - does anyone know the going rate these days for doing
> freelance writing for magazines?
>
> For 6 years, I had a monthly software and peripherals review column
> in a
> computer focused magazine. I also did freelance work for a newspaper.
> However, then I became a stay at home Dad when we had two kids within
> 12 months.
>
> I can't really compare to what I made before, because both of those
> were
> "get your foot in the door to get some experience" sort of jobs. One
> was also for a nonprofit group. Like I said, I got a lot of
> experience, a free Internet connection for a few years, and some $.
> Hopefully this time around, I can get more of the latter.
>
> Now that they are finally both out of diapers, and I have made some
> progress on fixing up our double, I'd like to devote some time to
> writing again.
>
> However, I have no idea what a fair rate is these days. I don't
> want to
> hold out for too much, and lose work, but I also don't want to be
> getting less than the other folks. I'd like to put most of what I
> make into my ROTH IRA, which is sorely underfunded at this point.
>
> Anyone have a general idea?
>
>

I wrote articles on computer software and programming and broadcast
engineering for decades. I just took what was offered. If I thought it
was too little I sent the next article elsewhere. It was a sideline to my
main work and just a way to get extra money so I could be flexable. Book
advances and deadlines however are negotiable. I've retired and am out of
the loop now so have quit writing.

--
Every silver lining has a cloud.

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TOPIC: Rarities_Beatles_X
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/42d95c973c084a1c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 9:10 am
From: Hostel

Rarities_Beatles_X
http://www.geocities.com/cd11cd/HELP.html
http://www.geocities.com/cd11cd/HELP1.htm
http://www.memorybankinc.com/moodies/CDBOOT.htm
http://www.memorybankinc.com/moodies/MBCT.htm

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