Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 13 topics

Monday, October 22, 2007

25 new messages in 13 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Ugly Dish Antennas Nauseate Me
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 12:12 am
From: "joe brown"

Siskuwihane <Siskuwihane@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 3:39 pm, "joe brown" <j...@www.com> wrote:
>> Siskuwihane <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Oct 20, 3:13 pm, "joe brown" <j...@www.com> wrote:
>>>> George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Don K wrote:
>>>>>> "George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:IY2dnQDUcILNAoXanZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>>> joe brown wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was
>>>>>>>>> shocked at how many homes - especially condos and apartments
>>>>>>>>> - had satellite dishes just stuck on the sides and roofs of
>>>>>>>>> buildings with absolutely no consideration given to
>>>>>>>>> aesthetics whatsoever. Here in SoCal no homeowners'
>>>>>>>>> association would ever allow that kind of fugly dish
>>>>>>>>> placement.
>>>>>>>> Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and
>>>>>>>> cannot do.
>>>>>>> Or people that might care about how their surroundings look.
>>
>>>>>> Sometimes functionality takes precedence over aesthetics.
>>
>>>>>> Suppose you decided that round wheels look ugly on cars and
>>>>>> square wheels would look nicer. Would you drive around with
>>>>>> square wheels?
>>
>>>>>> Don
>>
>>>>> I understand what you are saying but I think this thread isn't
>>>>> "anti-dish" but more "stupid installations of dishes" such as
>>>>> where the OP had observed the all too common scenario where there
>>>>> is a house with nice architecture and the dish is just slapped
>>>>> onto the easiest available surface in front of the house.
>>
>>>> It should go on the side of the house thats got the best view of
>>>> the satellite.
>>
>>>> That should see the 'problem' only visible on one side of the
>>>> street, the other side of the street should mostly have the dishes
>>>> on the back side of the house if the street runs EW or close.- Hide
>>>> quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> "Should go" doesn't mean a thing to the "tech" who comes to install
>>> it. Whatever is easiest is where it will go.
>>
>> Pity that if its put on the side of the house with no view
>> of the satellite, it wont work, so he wont get paid, stupid.- Hide
>> quoted text -
>
> No shit dumbass, instead of putting it on the roof near the back of
> the house and out of view, he'll put it on the front porch or front of
> the house and cause an eyesore.

Pity that wont work if the house is between the dish and the satellite, fuckwit.

> He does what is easiest for him because he's like you, lazy and doesn't use his head.

Never ever did have a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 4:11 am
From: Siskuwihane

On Oct 22, 3:12 am, "joe brown" <j...@www.com> wrote:
> Siskuwihane <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 21, 3:39 pm, "joe brown" <j...@www.com> wrote:
> >> Siskuwihane <Siskuwih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Oct 20, 3:13 pm, "joe brown" <j...@www.com> wrote:
> >>>> George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>> Don K wrote:
> >>>>>> "George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:IY2dnQDUcILNAoXanZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>>>> joe brown wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was
> >>>>>>>>> shocked at how many homes - especially condos and apartments
> >>>>>>>>> - had satellite dishes just stuck on the sides and roofs of
> >>>>>>>>> buildings with absolutely no consideration given to
> >>>>>>>>> aesthetics whatsoever. Here in SoCal no homeowners'
> >>>>>>>>> association would ever allow that kind of fugly dish
> >>>>>>>>> placement.
> >>>>>>>> Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and
> >>>>>>>> cannot do.
> >>>>>>> Or people that might care about how their surroundings look.
>
> >>>>>> Sometimes functionality takes precedence over aesthetics.
>
> >>>>>> Suppose you decided that round wheels look ugly on cars and
> >>>>>> square wheels would look nicer. Would you drive around with
> >>>>>> square wheels?
>
> >>>>>> Don
>
> >>>>> I understand what you are saying but I think this thread isn't
> >>>>> "anti-dish" but more "stupid installations of dishes" such as
> >>>>> where the OP had observed the all too common scenario where there
> >>>>> is a house with nice architecture and the dish is just slapped
> >>>>> onto the easiest available surface in front of the house.
>
> >>>> It should go on the side of the house thats got the best view of
> >>>> the satellite.
>
> >>>> That should see the 'problem' only visible on one side of the
> >>>> street, the other side of the street should mostly have the dishes
> >>>> on the back side of the house if the street runs EW or close.- Hide
> >>>> quoted text -
>
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>> "Should go" doesn't mean a thing to the "tech" who comes to install
> >>> it. Whatever is easiest is where it will go.
>
> >> Pity that if its put on the side of the house with no view
> >> of the satellite, it wont work, so he wont get paid, stupid.- Hide
> >> quoted text -
>
> > No shit dumbass, instead of putting it on the roof near the back of
> > the house and out of view, he'll put it on the front porch or front of
> > the house and cause an eyesore.
>
> Pity that wont work if the house is between the dish and the satellite, fuckwit.

No one is talking about locations that won't work, that has nothing
to do with what's being discussed, wanker.

Try and keep up when the adults are having a discussion, Rod.

. > He does what is easiest for him because he's like you, lazy and
doesn't use his head.
> Never ever did have a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.- Hide quoted text -
-

Rod changed his name because the public library kicked him off their
computer.

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TOPIC: Looks like the "conspiracy theories" really were true after all...
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 2:51 am
From: schoenfeld.one@gmail.com

Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
crashing down on the day of 9/11.

The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329

There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.

Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?

If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
demolitions industry!

How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?

If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.

This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!

PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329

Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds

PROPOSITION 2:
A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:

Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2

s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
a constant)

Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2

Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 5:02 am
From: "R. Mark Clayton"

<schoenfeld.one@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193046701.678432.216850@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
> crashing down on the day of 9/11.

At least one other building fell when hit by debris from one of the towers -
IIRC the Vista Hotel, which sat between the two towers, but several other
buildings were badly damaged and at least one was demolished shortly
afterwards as it was dangerous.

>
> The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
>
> There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.
>
> Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?

Probably, but being hit by thousands of tons of steel and masonary already
plunging downwards at high velocity can make it come down faster than free
fall speed.

>
> If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
> demolitions industry!
>
> How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?
>
> If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
> from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.

6 seconds is free fall from 180m, so how tall was WTC7?

>
> This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
> so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
> DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!

Er wrong again, the two towers pretty much collapsed like a deck of cards,
with only the top section tipping over.

But anyway, what are you actually trying to prove?

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 5:20 am
From: "Dan"

<schoenfeld.one@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193046701.678432.216850@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>

plonk.

dan

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 6:21 am
From: Christopher Benson-Manica

In comp.lang.c R. Mark Clayton <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote:

> some response to spam

Any chance you could take this charming discussion somewhere other
than comp.lang.c? I assure you that no one here is interested.

(F'ups set.)

--
C. Benson Manica | I appreciate all corrections, polite or otherwise.
cbmanica(at)gmail.com |
----------------------| I do not currently read any posts posted through
sdf.lonestar.org | Google groups, due to rampant unchecked spam.

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 6:51 am
From: "Essex Laptops - Andy Usher"

Most people in the UK that I know of could not care less about your
obsession with the WTC, The only thing to have come out of all this is
people not being able to move as freely as they should be

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 6:58 am
From: Just A User

schoenfeld.one@gmail.com wrote:
> Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
> crashing down on the day of 9/11.
>
> The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
>
> There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.
>
> Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?
>
> If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
> demolitions industry!
>
> How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?
>
> If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
> from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.
>
> This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
> so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
> DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!
>
> PROPOSITION 1:
> It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
> ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
>
>

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
> Collapse start time: 17 seconds
> Collapse end time: 23 seconds
> Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
>
> PROPOSITION 2:
> A free fall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
> seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
> kinematical considerations alone:
>
> Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
> total time^2
>
> or
>
> s = ut + 1/2at^2
> where
> s = 174 m (height of building)
> u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
> a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at
> a constant)
>
> Thus,
> 174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
>
> Solving for t
> t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
> = 5.9590
> ~ 6 seconds
>

And the explosives were put in the building by Elvis and the mystery
shooter on the grassy knoll. And they were of explosives were supplied
by the aliens that are still alive that crashed in Roswell in 1947.

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 7:00 am
From: Richard

Christopher Benson-Manica <ataru@vinland.freeshell.org> writes:

> In comp.lang.c R. Mark Clayton <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> some response to spam
>
> Any chance you could take this charming discussion somewhere other
> than comp.lang.c? I assure you that no one here is interested.
>
> (F'ups set.)

Well done. You just woke the thread up for those of us with properly
configured spam filters and thread scoring who hadn't seen it. Well done
indeed.

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 7:11 am
From: prettybaby@softhome.net

On Oct 22, 5:51 am, schoenfeld....@gmail.com wrote:
> Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
> crashing down on the day of 9/11.
>
> The third building, WTC 7, can be seen here
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
>
> There is no mention of this building in 911 Omission Report.
>
> Can fire make a building come crashing down at free fall speed?
>
> If you think it can, patent the idea and make billions in the
> demolitions industry!
>
> How do we know WTC 7 was demolished?
>
> If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to free fall
> from the roof of WTC 7, then you got it - WTC 7 underwent a free fall.
>
> This means as the each floor was falling straight to the ground it did
> so without crashing into anything on the way. ONLY CONTROLLED
> DEMOLITION CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT!
>
> PROPOSITION 1:
> It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
> ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
>
>

whatever you are trying to say, it is still a sign of the end of this
age.

prettybaby
http://spiritofart123.blogspot.com

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 7:32 am
From: "Niel J Humphreys"

"Essex Laptops - Andy Usher" <news@essexlaptops.co.uk> wrote in message
news:n92dnVDxdOuINoHanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pipex.net...
>
> <schoenfeld.one@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1193046701.678432.216850@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>> Most people don't know that there were actually 3 buildings which came
>> crashing down on the day of 9/11.
>
> Most people in the UK that I know of could not care less about your
> obsession with the WTC, The only thing to have come out of all this is
> people not being able to move as freely as they should be

You're joking. Everytime I get held up in a bloody queue at the airport it
makes me hate those fucking Muslim extremists even more.
--

Niel H

== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 7:58 am
From: "Essex Laptops - Andy Usher"

"Richard" <rgrdev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d0nuu4-1ta.ln1@news.individual.net...
> Christopher Benson-Manica <ataru@vinland.freeshell.org> writes:
>
>> In comp.lang.c R. Mark Clayton <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> some response to spam
>>
>> Any chance you could take this charming discussion somewhere other
>> than comp.lang.c? I assure you that no one here is interested.
>>
>> (F'ups set.)
>
> Well done. You just woke the thread up for those of us with properly
> configured spam filters and thread scoring who hadn't seen it. Well done
> indeed.

tiy didnt have to open or reply to it, no one cares about the post and no
one cares about your spam filter, jog on

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 8:34 am
From: James

On Oct 22, 1:52 am, Jeff <dont_bug...@all.uk> wrote:
> Logan Shaw wrote:
> > James wrote:
>
> >> Is it from nuclear, hydro, gas, oil, or coal?
>
> >> Don't have a bill handy so I can't tell you what it cost me. Guess
> >> it's high enough that most people have gas heat but low enough for
> >> people to have electric range and stove instead of gas.
>
> > The question in your subject line is pretty ambiguous since there are
> > several different units related to electricity. For example, there
> > are volts, amperes, watts, and coulombs.
>
> > Probably you mean to measure the energy that electricity can provide,
> > in which case the scientific unit is joules (watt-seconds), but the
> > industry tends to use kilowatt-hours.
>
> > As for price, that depends on who you buy it from (and when), but for
> > me it's about 10 cents per kilowatt-hour.
>
> > And as for whether electricity is good for heating, it tends to depend
> > on the cost of the electricity and the amount of heat you need. I
> > happen to live in a fairly warm climate where electricity rates are
> > relatively low, and I have a heat pump (instead of resistive heating),
> > so electricity is a good option for me. People who live where snow
> > is not an oddity but a regular occurrence (a) may find that electricity
> > is not the best option for them and (b) are, in my opinion, gluttons
> > for punishment.
>
> > By the way, I'm not really sure what the main point of your post is. :-)
>
> Me too.
>
> But I think the OP *may* be trying to compare electricity with other
> methods of heating.
>
> Electricity is sold by the kWhr (1000 watts / hour). There are 3413
> BTUs in a kWhr or about 29 kWhr in a therm. At $0.10 kWhr that's
> $2.90/therm.
>
> Natural Gas is usually sold by the therm. One therm is 100,000 BTUs if
> burned 100% efficiently.
>
> I believe heating oils is sold by the gallon. One gallon is 1.385
> therms if burned 100% efficiently.
>
> Now, electrity can be "burned" 100% efficiently, a little less if you
> have a fan. It can also be used in a heat pump (the reverse of AC) so
> that it can move two to three times more BTUs than it consumes. But heat
> pumps lose their leverage as the temperature falls.
>
> I see heating oil is about $2.77/gallon. Ouch!
> <URL:http://www.westchestergov.com/consumergas/oilprice.ASP/> That's
> about $2 therm.
>
> Natural Gas is about $1.34/therm (if you live in a deregulated market
> you have to consider distribution costs, not just price per therm).
>
> And in a cord of dry wood, about 195 therms. Wood stoves tend to be
> less efficient than other heaters.
>
> 100 SF of vertical south facing sunshine in december is about 1
> therm (if collected 100% efficiently, usually closer to 50%) at a cost
> of not much.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
> > - Logan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Christ!

I just wanted to know how much per kWH and the function of method of
generation. I want to know if Quebec, WA, TN are really cheap because
of big dams.

Guess I better not ask the price of gasoline. It might overheat your
brains.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 9:09 am
From: Ron Peterson

On Oct 22, 10:34 am, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I just wanted to know how much per kWH and the function of method of
> generation. I want to know if Quebec, WA, TN are really cheap because
> of big dams.

Yes, hydropower is inexpensive once the dam is in place.

--
Ron

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TOPIC: Winter's Coming: Window Cracks and Leaks
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 8:40 am
From: Al Bundy

On Oct 15, 12:07 am, Jeff <dont_bug...@all.uk> wrote:
> pc wrote:
> > PaPaPeng wrote:
>
> >> There are cracks up to a quarter inch wide between the the window
> >> frame and the inside window trim. It had been letting in cold air and
> >> leaking out warm air out for years. I had not done anything because I
> >> tolerate cold better and always set my thermostat to 72 deg F. The
> >> average gas bill hasn't changed for years and the furnace wasn't
> >> exactly knocking itself out unless it gets to minus twenty deg F or C.
> >> Its an unreliable measure of energy loss for sure.
>
> >> The window frames were tight and secure to the stucco finish so there
> >> were no repairs or caulking possible there without making the problem
> >> something major. Same thing inside the house. The window trim was
> >> also tight and secure against the wall. No adjustments were possible.
> >> I didn't like the idea of those aerosol cans of squeeze foam
> >> insulation as they are sticky and would be impossible to remove if
> >> they didn't work and I come around to redoing the window repairs.
> >> This is indeed fortunate because I chatted with my neighbor and he
> >> said never to use that stuff. He did and the foam accelerated the
> >> cracks in his windows over the years and he has a real problem now.
> >> My other porposed solution was to stuff the cracks with fiberglass
> >> insulation and glue or nail a thin slat of woodover the whole inside
> >> window trim to cover the repairs. I have a well equipped garage
> >> workshop and can do that except I procrastinate (long story).
>
> > 'Great Stuff' foam is really hard to work with. Your neighbor is right.
>
> > But, there is another foam that I highly recommend. It's made by DAP. I
> > think it's called Daptex for windows and doors. It comes in a blue and
> > black can. This foam is water soluble. So, it doesn't stick to your
> > hands for weeks after.
>
> You'll also see foam in two kinds, the large gap filler and that for
> smaller cracks like yours, usually labeled for windows and doors.
> Whatever brand you get make sure it is water soluable. Great Stuff, isn't.
>
> What a lot of people don't realize is just how much heat is lost to
> air infiltration, and not just the big gaps. A fairly insulated house
> with average tightness can lose nearly the same amount of heat through
> leakiness as through conduction losses through the walls, ceiling and
> floor. It's really worth tightening up whatever leaks you feel no matter
> how small, unless you don't mind burning money to stay warm.
>
> Jeff
>
> The straw and nozzle can be cleaned out. And you
>
>
>
>
>
> > can reuse the can until it's empty, unlike the other stuff. It also
> > stays flexible and doesn't expand as much as the other product.
>
> > HTH..
>
> > ..PC

And half of more of his money is going up the flu with his 30 year old
furnace.
But the furnace "looks" like new and now his trim will look good if he
ever does the job, while a good part of the heat is going through the
fenestration.
Sheesh!

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TOPIC: HDTV (ATSC) converter
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 8:51 am
From: Chris Hill

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:03:28 -0500, larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>
>
>Wait 'til they turn off the signal!
>
>I'm sure most folks still don't understand that all their
>existing TVs will not work.

Most of them will still work because most people get their tv signals
from cable or satellite. I guess I'll have to buy a box if I want to
continue to get free tv, but I'm going to wait for the prices to come
down.

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TOPIC: The loan website has been uploaded
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 22 2007 9:36 am
From: syxyap75dzdbmnrizj0l0@googlemail.com

The loan website has been uploaded to www.loans-website.com
thanks
Louis

www.article-website.com

www.hosttheworld.net

www.satelliteinformation.net

www.doggroominginformation.net

www.louisneill.com

www.mesothelioma.com.cn

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TOPIC: "If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's red ....
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 8:54 am
From: Chris McGonnell

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:21:19 -0400, Otto Bahn wrote:

>"HangEveryRepubliKKKan" <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote
>
>> > What we're trying to ascertain is how one gets smegma on their hands
>> > merely by taking a pee. I figure you'd have to "work at it", IYKWIM,
>> > AITYD.
>>
>> I guess you continue to coat your fingers with it because you haven't
>> figured it out yet.
>
>How childish. Perhaps if you had a micropenis, getting smegma
>on your hands while peeing might be an issue. I'm sure you can
>provide a cite how normal adults get smegma on their fingers,
>being a big ol' responsible adult and all.

Of course he has a micropenis -- he's a DEMONcrat. None of them are
responsible adults, which is why they try to turn government into Big
Nanny.

--
Chris McG.
Harming humanity since 1951.
"Well now you're just getting SILLY." -- Darla

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