Frugal Living: 12 new messages in 10 topics

Wednesday, November 28, 2007

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TOPIC: Thank China for cheap Thanksgiving Black Friday shopping
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 6:50 pm
From: websurf1@cox.net

On Nov 27, 2:11 pm, david_huang2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> All you American consumers should reflect on the post-Thanksgiving
> week on the fact, that the "cheap Chinese" your gov't complains about
> all the time fuels your economy. I bet you wouldn't pay as cheap for
> a home-made product. Just think about it when your government seeks to
> limit investments by Chinese companies in US assets. Just bear in mind
> that your government owes us 2 trillion dollars in T-bonds; squeak
> about trade deficit, but it's us that are ascending. So have a merry
> Christmas , but always remember at the back of your collective heads
> who really is the master of your economy.
>
> David Huang

It isn't too smart that the US has allowed one-sided trade laws that
allowed this.
I actually take the time to look to see where things are made. It's
getting tougher to find anything other than "China".
But get off your high horse there, dude.
Too much of our electronic trash is sent to China for processing,
because China allows it to be done improperly and therefore cheaply.
We keep finding things such as lead in toys. Even US consumers aren't
dumb enough to let that continue forever.
Our environmental laws keep our country less polluted and safer. You
may be able to produce things more cheaply, but if one of the reasons
is poisoning and pollution, you will lose big-time.
You are getting off the bicycles and into the cars. You will become
fat like us very soon, and the air will be that much worse.
And your money will also go to OPEC.

China is very competitive because of the currency value imbalance.
But it would be great for China if they recognized the things that the
US has to clean up, and not go down that road.

All things are cyclical. 25 years ago the US was worried that Japan
was selling us everything and buying up the place.

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TOPIC: Frugal XP
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/46f7727bbba8a63a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 7:02 pm
From: websurf1@cox.net

On Nov 26, 9:11 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>
> As much as I despise Microsoft[1], I have to credit them with finally
> developing a stable operating system that doesn't really crash unless
> something other than the operating system is faulty. XP is basically
> stable. Vista may be stable as well, but I think if you had problems
> with XP, it might not have been XP itself, but some other related issue.
>
> - Logan
>
> [1] and for that reason have not bought and do not use Windows,
> at least at home.

I've had lots more fun with the Linux stuff than with usoft. I have
three computers at home, and I'd like to not have to purchase several
copies of whatever usoft puts out. You can get the Linux for free if
you are geeky, for modest prices in distributions if you are less
geeky.

Both the XP and Linux boxes have been stable. I use the Open Source
office software on the XP with no problems at all. I don't have OS
loaded on the Linux box because I keep blowing up the Linux box for
lab purposes in classes.

I was able to purchase a copy of XP Pro for under $20 a couple years
ago from a local community college because I was taking classes
there. You might be able to get a windows (or other) class and a low-
cost copy of some version of windows if you are lucky enough to be
near a community college.

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TOPIC: Coinstar Warning
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0a78df299577cc2f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 7:04 pm
From: krw

In article <y6W2j.18$UA1.7@newsfe10.lga>, eleeper@optonline.net
says...
> Goomba38 wrote:
> > Gary Heston wrote:
> >> In article <QZudnaaoIa8LSdfanZ2dnUVZ_oSnnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> >> Goomba38 <Goomba38@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> [ ... ]
> >>> Well.. just recently while cleaning my deceased mother in law's
> >>> apartment (out of state) out we found multiple jars and bags of coins
> >>> she'd been stashing. Time was at a premium so coinstar machine
> >>> certainly was the best option for us. We ended up with $397.00 that
> >>> we didn't have to haul or carry out of state. Try carrying that much
> >>> coin in carry on luggage at the airport....
> >>
> >> Wonder how many rare/silver coins were in those jars and bags...
> >>
> >> I'd have shipped them home UPS ground and gone through them.
> >>
> > No...the cost of shipping that poundage wouldn't make it worth our
> > while. In this case ignorance is bliss.
>
> I suspect very few. My mother used to check through the coins from the
> machines owned by my brother's newspaper before he rolled and deposited
> them. She found only a few silver coins back in the 1970s. by the
> 1980s, there were none. (How many do *you* see in all the change you
> handle?)

They're not all that rare, even now. I come across them from time to
time. It seems they come in clusters, kinda like someone decided
they weren't worth keeping anymore so broke their piggy bank. ;-)

--
Keith

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TOPIC: new website launched by BBC
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7b05ac0e3eaa08bb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 7:23 pm
From: john

I have found a new website which is related with the mobile and all...
website name is www.bbcmobile.com
thanking you

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TOPIC: Space heaters?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f26d977f5b136ec1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 7:42 pm
From: Logan Shaw

Ken Knecht wrote:
> Any recommendations for an electric space heater? In the past those I've
> purchased had or soon had noisy fans and sometimes inaccurate thermostats
> (shut off too soon even at maximum heat setting (Holmes). I need it for
> an approximately 12 x 12' bedroom.

I've got an electric baseboard radiator that I like a lot. The brand is
Honeywell. Mine is 2 or 3 years old, but it looks basically like this
one:

http://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-HZ519-Digital-Profile-Comfort/dp/B000BC2GGS

It's not an oil-filled heater. Internally, there is a long (maybe 3 foot)
rod-shaped heating element with metal fins on it. So it's basically a
straight wire with a big heat sink around it. You put the thing along the
base of a wall, and the heated air rises, creating a convection current that
circulates air around the room. It's close to completely silent (there's a
very, very quiet 60 Hz hum). And there's no feeling of draftiness because
it makes the air move very slowly.

It takes maybe 30 minutes to really get a room heated up, but once it does,
it's very comfortable everywhere in the room, provided you keep all the
doors closed in that room. It works well for a bedroom at night. It has
a timer so you can run it for 8 or 10 hours and not worry about having to
remember to turn it off in the morning when you're in a hurry. I typically
would turn it on an hour or two before bedtime and set the timer for 10 hours.
Then the bed (including sheets) has time to heat up before I get in it.

That amazon.com listing shows it running $129. I don't think I paid nearly
that much for it, but I bought it at Home Depot in the clearance section in
the springtime. :-)

- Logan

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 7:42 pm
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TOPIC: Web site for product reviews?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9ca40f50a5635d0d?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 7:48 pm
From: Logan Shaw

John Weiss wrote:
> <me@privacy.net> wrote...
>>> Why not check Consumer Reports' web site?
>> Speaking of which..... does anyone have a subscription
>> to the CR web site and think it worth it?
>
> Had one; dropped it. It wasn't worth the $$ they charged for piss-poor tech
> support and a Microsoft-dependent site. To add even more insult, they continued
> the "auto-renewal" on my credit card even after I cancelled!

I had a similar mildly bad experience with Consumer Reports. They stated that
they auto-renewed the subscription, so I avoided that by using a "virtual
account number" generated by on my credit card's web site. The virtual account
numbers always expire the month following when they're created, so they're
great for anything that tries to auto-renew: by the time they try to run
the charge for auto-renewal, the number is expired, the charge won't go
through, and they conveniently cancel the service for you. :-)

Anyway, I didn't get stuck with an auto-renewal for that reason, but I did
waste money. I had bought their new car buying guide (which, by the way, was
really helpful), and they had incomplete information about a first model year
car I was interested in. They had plastered all over the book that I could
get updated information by subscribing to their web site, so I spent $30 or
whatever to do so, only to find that though it had been 6+ months since they
published the book, the web site's info hadn't been updated in that time.
So much for updated information. I basically spent $30 for nothing, based
on the silly idea that their web site would be updated more than once a year.

- Logan

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 11:22 pm
From: Steve

"John Weiss" <jrweiss98155NOSPAM@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote:
>> Speaking of which..... does anyone have a subscription
>> to the CR web site and think it worth it?
>
>Had one; dropped it. It wasn't worth the $$ they charged for piss-poor tech
>support and a Microsoft-dependent site. To add even more insult, they continued
>the "auto-renewal" on my credit card even after I cancelled!

And every 2-3 days they send me a "Special Offer" of "only $1 per
month" for their site. grrrr

Hospitality is making people feel at home when you wish they were.

...Garrison Keillor

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 11:23 pm
From: Steve

Ken Knecht <kenk6600@gmail.com> wrote:
>Is there a trustworthy web site like Consumer Reports magazine that
>covers less expensive items, like heaters, to help make buying decisions?

Why not just check customer reviews on Amazon or whatever...

Hospitality is making people feel at home when you wish they were.

...Garrison Keillor

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TOPIC: The sale of the old Guinness Super watches. LV packs. And hat. Clothes.
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Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 7:58 pm
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TOPIC: Mad at my fridge
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 27 2007 9:24 pm
From: timeOday

Dennis wrote:

> Did you get a quote for replacing the compressor?
> Dennis (evil)

Yes, it was $600.

$600 is less than $800 for a new one, so I probably would have thought
about that for a while. But I was out of town and my wife just got a
new one. I don't fault her, the difference is small enough that I could
go either way.

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