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TOPIC: need financial advice badly
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 3:38 pm
From: slunky

_/ zaman_2756@yahoo.com <zaman_2756@yahoo.com> wrote \_
> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

If you cancel your internet access, you'll have more money.

--
-slunky

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 3:49 pm
From: Mogga

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:36:47 -0700, zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:

>On 2 Nov, 22:26, BoredToTears <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 2 Nov, 22:10, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Last time you wanted people to send you sleeping meds and before that
>> you posted a very similar question to this latest one, about taking
>> part in medical trials. Just stop trolling, eh? We're not that dumb.
>
>First off,kudos to you for being able to remember my old posts. But I
>really am not a troll at all. I suffer from severe OCD and
>depression,almost every waking moment is very uncomfortable, I simply
>don't have the energy to engage in such childish persuits as trolling.

Use your energy to get better. Go and see someone at citizens advice
about your money problems. Stop spending money you don't have.
--

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Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 5:58 pm
From: PaPaPeng

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:10:19 -0700, zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:

>Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
>on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
>into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
>I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
>500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
>The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
>can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
>I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
>depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
>So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
>making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

As a person who had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for all my life I know
exactly the problems you face. In my case 10 years ago (I'm retired
now) I found by chance that I am food intolerant to soy, gluten,
legumes and a few more common foods that in others would trigger an
allergic reaction.

I'll skip the discovery process and get straight down to the "cure"
you may try. Avoid intolerance foods. Look up WIKI on "The Leaky
Gut". Avoid medications especially over the counter comfort "cures."
Two years after my "discovery" I attended a public lecture out of
curiosity and discovered what I was suffering from had a name. Look
up the Internet on CFS. The CFS guide describes the story of my life
to a tee. I was flabbergasted and yet relieved that I had a real
disease and it wasn't "in my head."

The first thing I discovered was that I enjoyed a good night's sleep,
something I had not experienced for years. I could wake up feeling
fresh. Or at least fresher than I had felt for years. If all it took
was to avoid intolerance foods to get a good night's sleep who cares
what the explanation or theories were not that I was aware of any.
Over the months many of the CFS problems I had began to clear up.
Many problems I didn't even know I had also cleared up. Things like
bloating, a swollen tongue and undefinable uncomfortable GI tract, dry
mouth, dandruff and dry skin cleared up. That feeling of lack of
control of one's wellbeing decreased. I had always looked in the
pink of health and rarely if ever ill with something a doctor can
prescribe something for and fix. Therefore no one ever suspected I
had CFS. There wasn't even a medical recognition or definition until
1987.

With intolerance foods our body's immune system is cranked all the way
up to fight the "toxins". That means our metabolism is elevated and
never allowed to achieve basal rate - I feel toasty all the time.
That's my theory why we do not get restful sleep.

Your severe depression is a consequence of the lack of restful sleep.
You can sleep many hours, more than is good for you. Yet you will
wake up feeling very tired, have a headache and quite incapable of
doing doing even the simplest household chore like making a meal.
Been there.

Use the common allergen foods as your reference point. This may
include the "health foods" such as tofu, liver, kidneys and a few
other exotic stuff food faddists will swear by. Another good
reference point is foods some kid hate such as cabbage-brocolli, peas,
spinach. Remove them from your meals. I won't confuse you with my
theories as to why. Try for two months at least to eat the simplest
foods that agree with you. Fresh meat and veggies. Plain carbs such
as rice, oats or wheat flour. Avoid processed foods. They all have
soy flour or oil added and spices. For me that's practically toxic.
They taste darn good though. Now that I am resensitized even a cube
of tofu in soup will give me an instant cold sore on my inner lip. As
an oriental there was soy in every meal and you see why I had an
undiscovered lifelong problem until late in life. This brings up the
point that you must use minimal salt and no other condiments or
sauces.

If you can't stand all this plain food by all means go beck to your
regular diet for a meal or two. It won't kill you or make you
violently ill.. Then go back to the plain foods. As your body is
resensitized to intolerance foods you will be able to discern what
foods you should avoid and work out your own diet..

If this regimen bring you some improvement I have helped you. If it
doesn't I haven't harmed you or made you spend unecessary money. And
I haven't given you spurious medical advice. Good luck.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:58 pm
From: Michelle la Belle

On Nov 2, 6:10 pm, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

The benefits system is much more generous in England than in other
countries posters on this thread are in. Apply for DLA. And be
grateful your situation isn't worse, as it is for folks like us in
Canada, the US, and Australia.

Good luck.

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TOPIC: US-made pizza recalled due to E. coli; maybe China should boycott all
US-made pizzas
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9884cdeb97cd8332?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 3:39 pm
From: "JoeSpareBedroom"

"Siskuwihane" <Siskuwihane@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194035341.469217.283570@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 9:23 am, david_huang2...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSWNAS984320071101
>>
>> Totino's and Jeno's pizza recalled due to E. coli
>>
>> CHICAGO (Reuters) - Almost five million Totino's and Jeno's frozen
>> pizzas with pepperoni toppings are being recalled because the
>> pepperoni may be contaminated with E. coli, General Mills Inc said on
>> Thursday.
>>
>> General Mills, which owns the Totino's and Jeno's brands, said the
>> recall affects about 414,000 cases of pizza products currently in
>> stores and all similar pizza products that might be in consumers'
>> freezers. Each case contains 12 pizzas.
>>
>> The possible E. coli contamination was uncovered by state and federal
>> authorities investigating 21 E. coli-related illnesses in 10 states.
>>
>> General Mills said nine of the 21 people reported having eaten
>> Totino's or Jeno's pizza with pepperoni topping at some point before
>> becoming ill.
>>
>> The people became ill between July 20 and October 10, the USDA's Food
>> Safety and Inspection Service said, adding that all the patients
>> recovered.
>>
>> The people did not have packages with dates codes or other information
>> General Mills needs to narrow down which pizzas might be affected,
>> General Mills spokesman Tom Forsythe said, adding that, for the same
>> reason, the company could not determine which of its suppliers
>> provided the pepperoni.
>>
>> E.coli O157:H7 is a potentially deadly bacteria that can cause bloody
>> diarrhea and dehydration. The very young, seniors and persons with
>> compromised immune systems are the most vulnerable to food borne
>> disease.
>>
>> The recall includes eight types of Totino's brand frozen pizza and
>> three types of Jeno's brand frozen pizza with pepperoni topping, or
>> pepperoni in combination with other toppings.
>>
>> The frozen pizzas were produced in its Wellston, Ohio, plant and
>> distributed throughout the United States. The plant is currently
>> making other pizzas, but not with pepperoni, General Mills spokesman
>> Tom Forsythe said.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> You get the message: US made products may be just as bad as Chinese
>> manufactured ones: So many products may be tainted with E-coli like
>> last fall's lettuce. Protectionism can go both ways. I'd rather not
>> have Pelosi and her protectionist congress dumping on China just
>> because their own consumers prefer Chinese stuff to their own
>> industry. The US should fix their own trade deficit rather than
>> picking on China in vain.
>>
>> David Huang
>
> E coli has nothing to do with the deliberate use of lead and
> diethylene glycol in products.
>

It does if you're an idiot, like the OP.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:15 pm
From: Damaeus

In news:rec.food.cooking, david_huang2007@hotmail.com posted on Fri, 02 Nov
2007 07:23:52 -0700:

> You get the message: US made products may be just as bad as Chinese
> manufactured ones: So many products may be tainted with E-coli like
> last fall's lettuce. Protectionism can go both ways. I'd rather not
> have Pelosi and her protectionist congress dumping on China just
> because their own consumers prefer Chinese stuff to their own
> industry. The US should fix their own trade deficit rather than
> picking on China in vain.

A lady I work with was telling me about this story this morning at work.
She said that the pepperoni used on the Totino's pizza is actually made in
China, and it's the pepperoni that's the problem here.

And you know, it's also interesting that all these stories about
Chinese-made product recalls is coming about as the dollar sinks lower and
lower. It almost sounds like some kind of economic warfare with
China...China, a country which supposedly holds a great portion of our
national debt. How that happened, who knows.

Damaeus

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:54 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Damaeus <no-mail@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
> In news:rec.food.cooking, david_huang2007@hotmail.com posted on Fri,
> 02 Nov 2007 07:23:52 -0700:
>
>> You get the message: US made products may be just as bad as Chinese
>> manufactured ones: So many products may be tainted with E-coli like
>> last fall's lettuce. Protectionism can go both ways. I'd rather not
>> have Pelosi and her protectionist congress dumping on China just
>> because their own consumers prefer Chinese stuff to their own
>> industry. The US should fix their own trade deficit rather than
>> picking on China in vain.

> A lady I work with was telling me about this story this morning at work. She
> said that the pepperoni used on the Totino's pizza is actually made in China,

No it isnt.

> and it's the pepperoni that's the problem here.

> And you know, it's also interesting that all these stories about Chinese-made
> product recalls is coming about as the dollar sinks lower and lower. It almost
> sounds like some kind of economic warfare with China...

Only to those who are a sucker for a mindless conspiracy theory.

The real reason is the trillion bucks thats been pissed against the wall in Iraq.

> China, a country which supposedly holds a great portion of our national debt.

So it aint in their interest to see the value of the dollar decline, stupid.

AND they have chosen to lock their own currency to the USD too. Funny that.

> How that happened, who knows.

Its obvious how that happened to anyone with even half a
clue, they sell lot more to the US than they buy from the US.

Same thing happened with Japan until the chinese got their act into gear.

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TOPIC: What thread count sheets do you buy?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ad4e4e93bbccdd1c?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 3:21 pm
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG

In article <472ac646$0$9563$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com says...
> James wrote:
> ...
> > Unless one sleeps in the nude, the sheets don't really matter much.

> Are you suggesting that people don't sleep in the nude? Except during
> the very cold winters, where the glass of water on the nightstand
> freezes over, I can't think of any good reason to get all dressed
> up to go to bed.

Imagine being awakened at 3AM, by your smoke alarm. Because the
house is on fire. And you need to run outside, NOW.

Would you prefer to be "all dressed up," or naked?

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:16 pm
From: Logan Shaw

Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG wrote:
> In article <472ac646$0$9563$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com says...

>> Are you suggesting that people don't sleep in the nude? Except during
>> the very cold winters, where the glass of water on the nightstand
>> freezes over, I can't think of any good reason to get all dressed
>> up to go to bed.

> Imagine being awakened at 3AM, by your smoke alarm. Because the
> house is on fire. And you need to run outside, NOW.
>
> Would you prefer to be "all dressed up," or naked?

If this were to happen and you were completely naked, one could always
grab whatever clothes were last worn (which can probably be found lying
on the floor or hung over a chair) on the way out. I can't imagine it
would take more than about 5 seconds if you were really motivated to
get out fast, and you don't have to put them on until you get outside.
If no clothes are readily available, you can always yank the top sheet
off the bed and take that.

In this scenario it is, by definition, 3 AM, so it's not all that likely
that anyone is going to be around to see you naked while you put on the
clothes you brought with you. And if someone is around, as fascinated
by naked bodies as humans are, we are probably more likely to pay
attention to a burning building than a naked body, so your body is not
what they're likely to be staring at.

- Logan

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:52 pm
From: Anthony Matonak

Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG wrote:
> In article <472ac646$0$9563$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com says...
>> James wrote:
>> ...
>>> Unless one sleeps in the nude, the sheets don't really matter much.
>
>> Are you suggesting that people don't sleep in the nude? Except during
>> the very cold winters, where the glass of water on the nightstand
>> freezes over, I can't think of any good reason to get all dressed
>> up to go to bed.
>
> Imagine being awakened at 3AM, by your smoke alarm. Because the
> house is on fire. And you need to run outside, NOW.
>
> Would you prefer to be "all dressed up," or naked?

Would you prefer to be wearing shoes or go barefoot into the night?
Should we sleep with our shoes on?

If it's a question of my clothes or my life, well...
Yes, I would have to be properly dressed for my funeral.

Anthony

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko aala
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:22 pm
From: Robert Lieblich

Don Stockbauer wrote:
>
> On Nov 2, 9:44 am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:

> > I read your post twice and have one question . What the fuck are you talking
> > about? You sound like a first year student at the Russ G. school of twisted
> > grammar and mangled communication.

[ ... ]

> He prolly listened to "Communication Breakdown" by Led Zeppelin a few
> too many times.

Haven't you guys figured out the the OP is simply spamming random
newsgroups with stuff he takes from websites in violation of
copyright? He doesn't seem to be interested in replies, and he sure
as hell isn't going to answer you.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:30 pm
From: "John Holmes"

Robert Lieblich wrote:
>
> Haven't you guys figured out the the OP is simply spamming random
> newsgroups with stuff he takes from websites in violation of
> copyright? He doesn't seem to be interested in replies, and he sure
> as hell isn't going to answer you.

What's even worse is that groups-abuse@google.com doesn't accept
complaints about this stuff any more. If you forward one of those
messages as an attachment to an abuse complaint, they bounce it as spam.
And the bounce comes not from that address, but from
google.external.groups-abuse@news.corp.google.com .

There ought to be some kind of law against running a news server without
a responsive abuse complaint address. And what has News Corp got to do
with it?

--
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for mail: my initials plus a u e
at tpg dot com dot au

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TOPIC: The Dual-Flush toilet arrives.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4db3066814d10ca5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:40 pm
From: "Alan Parkington"

"A Veteran" <georgek@humboldt1.com> wrote in message
news:georgek-EBBA0B.12383930102007@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> one flush for #1 and a grander effort to flush #2's
> but Home depot doesn't have them. where ?
>

Dude they have had these in other countries like Australia for over 20
years.

This is part of the reason that so much of the world sees the US as a
wasteful society, consuming vast amounts of natural resources.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 6:54 pm
From: greg3347

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== 1 of 1 ==
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