Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 16 topics

Wednesday, January 23, 2008

25 new messages in 16 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: How much does it cost you to live a day in your life?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4df06601e0a3cd77?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 11:35 am
From:
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<skarkada@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:13f82ca5-e746-4ba7-bece-4bfade1bd5e1@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Living in a metro city in USA. I haven't done any detailed
> calculations. Based on my family's annual expenses, I think we spend
> about $50 a day per person in the family. That is definitely not how
> little we can live on.

I cost $30/day and DH costs $35/day, because he still commutes.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 1:06 pm
From: val189

On Jan 23, 10:12 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So how little can you live on..$1000...$100...$10...$1?
>
> And to do it every day.
>
> So what is your minimum cost of living?
>
> Considering today's events, you may need to answer that question
> sooner than you think.
>
> TMT

Impossible to answer. There's are many levels of living costs between
my present living standard and taking my place under the overpass.
A better question might be - what did you spend per person per day
last year? And where could you cut?

I guess if I gave up all forms of insurance, car, sat in the dark,
rented something squalid and lived on beans, I could get by pretty
cheaply.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 2:21 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:06:50 -0800 (PST), val189
<gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>On Jan 23, 10:12 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> So how little can you live on..$1000...$100...$10...$1?
>>
>> And to do it every day.
>>
>> So what is your minimum cost of living?
>>
>> Considering today's events, you may need to answer that question
>> sooner than you think.
>>
>> TMT
>
>Impossible to answer. There's are many levels of living costs between
>my present living standard and taking my place under the overpass.
>A better question might be - what did you spend per person per day
>last year? And where could you cut?
>
>I guess if I gave up all forms of insurance, car, sat in the dark,
>rented something squalid and lived on beans, I could get by pretty
>cheaply.

The toilet paper costs would kill you, what with all those beans and
not being able to see in the dark.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 5:37 pm
From: "Scott Fargham"

"val189" <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:06beadde-6e13-4297-b768-943f2c6f33d2@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 23, 10:12 am, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> So how little can you live on..$1000...$100...$10...$1?
>>
>> And to do it every day.
>>
>> So what is your minimum cost of living?
>>
>> Considering today's events, you may need to answer that question
>> sooner than you think.
>>
>> TMT
>
> Impossible to answer. There's are many levels of living costs between
> my present living standard and taking my place under the overpass.
> A better question might be - what did you spend per person per day
> last year? And where could you cut?
>
> I guess if I gave up all forms of insurance, car, sat in the dark,
> rented something squalid and lived on beans, I could get by pretty
> cheaply.

Living on beans would certainly set you apart from your friends.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 5:42 pm
From: "Scott Fargham"

"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4aaea014-c6d3-4fc0-ad76-7290d426a49f@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> So how little can you live on..$1000...$100...$10...$1?
>
> And to do it every day.
>
> So what is your minimum cost of living?
>
> Considering today's events, you may need to answer that question
> sooner than you think.

Despite having just completed my daily browsing of various news-oriented web
sites, I'm unsure about which of "today's events" triggered your question.
Are you referring to the 300-point rise in the Dow and if so how does that
lead to the "minimum cost of living" question? You're surely not implying
that you think the global economy is on the verge of collapse, I hope.

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TOPIC: What is the average annual cost of owning a car if paying cash in lump
sum in the beginning?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5aac132998391837?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 11:33 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Go and fuck yourself.

Stormin Mormon <cayoung61@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Please trim this Christmas tree.
>
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5vnn1hF1nfm35U1@mid.individual.net...
> Dave L <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Dave L <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Dave L <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>> <h> wrote
>>>>>>> Al Bundy <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>> In my opinion, when you buy a new car you just pay for all the
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |

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TOPIC: Make 15k in 30 Days!!!! As seen on Oprah
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 11:34 am
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TOPIC: Authentic Gucci Handbag Find a Sale on Authentic Gucci Handbags
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 1:33 pm
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TOPIC: Things you never see in a Rod Speed message
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 1:49 pm
From: William Souden

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TOPIC: Reputable debt consolidation companies
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 3:09 pm
From: kevincniven@gmail.com

I'm not certain if this is the correct place to ask this, but I
noticed past threads on this topic in misc.consumers*.

I am trying to help a friend think about debt consolidation. I'm
running into a problem, though, and that is that searching for debt
consolidation companies online turns up a lot of rather fishy looking
enterprises. I'm suspecting that a lot of these companies are
predatory and of questionable legality (or worse).

Does anyone know of a website where I could find reliable information
about debt consolidation companies? The Better Business Bureau's site
was of no help whatsoever. I know she can get debt consolidation
services through reputable major banks (e.g., BofA, Wells Fargo), but
I also guess that there deals may not be as competitive as companies
that specialize in DC.

Thanks,
Kevin

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 4:19 pm
From: "John Weiss"

<kevincniven@gmail.com> wrote...
>
> I am trying to help a friend think about debt consolidation. I'm
> running into a problem, though, and that is that searching for debt
> consolidation companies online turns up a lot of rather fishy looking
> enterprises. I'm suspecting that a lot of these companies are
> predatory and of questionable legality (or worse).
>
> Does anyone know of a website where I could find reliable information
> about debt consolidation companies? The Better Business Bureau's site
> was of no help whatsoever. I know she can get debt consolidation
> services through reputable major banks (e.g., BofA, Wells Fargo), but
> I also guess that there deals may not be as competitive as companies
> that specialize in DC.

Start with your friend's current bank or credit union. Expand to other local
banks and credit unions.

Another place to start is your local Consumer Credit Counseling Service
(http://www.cccservices.com/).

"Debt consolidation" is not magic, though it is only part of the picture. That
part of it is simply finding a loan at the lowest possible interest rate and
best repayment terms, so you can pay off your higher-interest debt with the
proceeds. Your friend may need help getting into a position to qualify for such
a loan or to find a willing lender; that is where CCCS or similar may help.

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TOPIC: Ubiquitous Internet Service
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 3:30 pm
From: Dennis

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:04:52 -0500, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>George Grapman wrote:
>> As it happens a business group that I belong to began utilizing the
>> google calendar feature today. Only people in the group can use it to
>> either see upcoming events or add events. It also has an option that
>> notifies you each time an event is added.
>
>I just don't care for the idea of having my information in "the cloud"
>as google and others are trying to push.

Damn! Now we'll have to find some other way to keep track of you.

Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 4:59 pm
From: George Grapman

Dennis wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:04:52 -0500, George <george@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> George Grapman wrote:
>>> As it happens a business group that I belong to began utilizing the
>>> google calendar feature today. Only people in the group can use it to
>>> either see upcoming events or add events. It also has an option that
>>> notifies you each time an event is added.
>> I just don't care for the idea of having my information in "the cloud"
>> as google and others are trying to push.
>
> Damn! Now we'll have to find some other way to keep track of you.
>
> Dennis (evil)

I would never put my personal or business calendars online but in this
instance it is limited to functions relating to the group I belong to.
Since we already have each others contact details the calendar will
simply say (names of people) are meeting to discuss (topic) at (time and
place). It would be interesting to see an outsider try to identify us at
the lunch,dinner or whatever and then try to explain their uninvited
presence.
Oh, the calendar will also have such valuable private information as
the list of members speaking at upcoming meetings.
As I said, fine in this case but not in other instances.
Speaking of google a poster in another group has been trying to
hijack that group by flooding it with messages from his sock puppets.
Most of us are ignoring him so he started a google group on the same
topic as the group.He is bragging about how he "owns" the google group
and is bragging that we need his permission to join this group.

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TOPIC: Frugal Tip For InkJet Printers
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 3:42 pm
From: "Joe"

I've got a Canon fax/printer/scanner/thing...

I almost never print in color (once a year maybe?).

It keeps using color ink even when I print B&W...

So... Today, it told me I needed cyan ink. I removed the old cartridge and
didn't install a new one. Closed the trap doors and set it free. It thinks
there is plenty of ink, prints in B&W just fine and hasn't given me a
problem yet.

If it's a bad idea, someone will probably come along shortly to tell me
so... But it seems like I can just run it without color cartridges if I
only do B&W... Someone already told me that if the inlet for the ink dries
up, the printer has no mechanism to clean it up... So I may lose color
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 4:36 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Jan 23, 6:42 pm, "Joe" <really-faked-but-wo...@yunx.com> wrote:
> I've got a Canon fax/printer/scanner/thing...
>
> I almost never print in color (once a year maybe?).
>
> It keeps using color ink even when I print B&W...
>
> So... Today, it told me I needed cyan ink. I removed the old cartridge and
> didn't install a new one. Closed the trap doors and set it free. It thinks
> there is plenty of ink, prints in B&W just fine and hasn't given me a
> problem yet.
>
> If it's a bad idea, someone will probably come along shortly to tell me
> so... But it seems like I can just run it without color cartridges if I
> only do B&W... Someone already told me that if the inlet for the ink dries
> up, the printer has no mechanism to clean it up... So I may lose color
> capabilities forever... Which is fine for me.
>
> Thoughts?
>
The light did not go out because you left the cart out. It went out
because the open vent you created allowed all remaining ink to drain
down. Very soon it will actually be totally empty and the light/
message should come back. All you will have accomplished is drying out
the print head. Carts are easily refilled with cheap aftermarket ink.
I've been lucky enough to find ink at the dollar store. I stocked up
while it was there and now it's gone. Still, online sources of cheap
ink are available. As a hack, you might consider filling the unused
carts with a mixture of water and alcohol 50/50 to fool the printer.
If it's one of the printers that mixes color to create black, you
won't get black with water or empty as you are now. I love to
experiment, but I always keep several backup printers and quarts of
ink to use in them. You can find many of the answers to these simple
questions on the printer peripheral site. Sometimes it's better to
learn by the mistakes of others.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 6:43 pm
From: "Joe"

>> I've got a Canon fax/printer/scanner/thing...
>>
>> I almost never print in color (once a year maybe?).
>>
>> It keeps using color ink even when I print B&W...
>>
>> So... Today, it told me I needed cyan ink. I removed the old cartridge
>> and
>> didn't install a new one. Closed the trap doors and set it free. It
>> thinks
>> there is plenty of ink, prints in B&W just fine and hasn't given me a
>> problem yet.
>>
>> If it's a bad idea, someone will probably come along shortly to tell me
>> so... But it seems like I can just run it without color cartridges if I
>> only do B&W... Someone already told me that if the inlet for the ink
>> dries
>> up, the printer has no mechanism to clean it up... So I may lose color
>> capabilities forever... Which is fine for me.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
> The light did not go out because you left the cart out. It went out
> because the open vent you created allowed all remaining ink to drain
> down. Very soon it will actually be totally empty and the light/
> message should come back. All you will have accomplished is drying out
> the print head. Carts are easily refilled with cheap aftermarket ink.
> I've been lucky enough to find ink at the dollar store. I stocked up
> while it was there and now it's gone. Still, online sources of cheap
> ink are available. As a hack, you might consider filling the unused
> carts with a mixture of water and alcohol 50/50 to fool the printer.
> If it's one of the printers that mixes color to create black, you
> won't get black with water or empty as you are now. I love to
> experiment, but I always keep several backup printers and quarts of
> ink to use in them. You can find many of the answers to these simple
> questions on the printer peripheral site. Sometimes it's better to
> learn by the mistakes of others.

You may be right... However, I got the idea from an old Cannon printer
(probably 8 years old) that has been running cartridge-less for about a
year... I didn't think to try it on teh new machine.

So what you are saying is that once the resivoir drys up, it'll probably
clog and then I'll have otehr problems?

This is where I get my ink dirt cheap:

http://www.abacus24-7.com/

Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R

Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"
http://yunx.com/valk.htm

Ride a motorcycle in or near NJ?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 3:55 pm
From: fodrem@gmail.com

Hope te see you there!
getufit.blogspot.com

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 4:39 pm
From: Al Bundy

C Pac wrote:
> Just think for a moment.
>
> Can you just remember your last EARTH-shattering SEX?
> How long since a woman beg for it? Been a while Na?
>
That screaming and begging you have are the women trying to escape
your binds.

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TOPIC: So, You Want To Be A Work At Home Mom
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 5:11 pm
From: xikom03@yahoo.com.tw

So You Want to be a Work at Home Mom?

But Where do you Start?

Right Here!!!!

#1 Plan

Before you sign up for anything, buy anything, do anything, you must
plan. Ask yourself the important questions, like what do you want out
of this and what are you passionate about.

#2 Prioritize

Many of us jump into things that we really can't handle. Don't get me
wrong, we are all Super Mom!!! However, we need to know what is the
most important to us, and how to fit all of the pieces together.

#3 Budget

Similar to time prioritizing, except with money. It is easy to spend
all of your money at the beginning not thinking of this venture as
long term. Or make the mistake of spending money you simply just don't
have. Let's not forget why you are doing this. It is to make money, to
contribute to your family, not to break to bank trying.

#4 Research

Before investing in something, whether it is time, money, or both, you
must know what you are investing in. Flashy websites, big promises,
and dollar signs can distract you away from the real issue at hand.
You want an opportunity that fits your needs, not one that simply
looks good.

In addition, in order to create an accurate budget you will need to
know how much start up, promotion, and maintenance will cost. When
researching an opportunity those are the three things you will want to
find out.

There are basically two routes to go. You can either join a pre-
existing opportunity, or if you have a completely new idea, start a
new eBiz.

#5 Discuss

A confidant is a wonderful person to bounce off ideas. Share your
priorities and plans with your friend/spouse. Allow them to be
objective about whether the opportunity you have chosen fits with what
you want. I recommend have two or three choices in mind.

#6 Sleep

Any good salesperson will tell you, that the biggest part of a sale is
made based on the emotion evoked by the product and the environment
surrounding it, not truly how good the product is. If the opportunity
is as good today as it was yesterday, than you have probably

http://www.dontplayplay.com/html/Bothsexes/20061002/47404.html

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 5:34 pm
From: websurf1@cox.net

On Jan 22, 5:19 pm, <h> wrote:
> "Dennis" <dg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:rb0dp31m2ofqqm0uqmf7qv1levo9u0a1d9@4ax.com...
>
> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:52:27 -0800 (PST), websu...@cox.net wrote:
>
> >>What's "whinging". Misspelled "whining" perhaps, or "winging"?
>
> > It's whining with a British accent. ;-)
>
> > Dennis (evil)
> > --
> > "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
>
> whinge (hwnj, wnj)
> intr.v. whinged, whing·ing, whing·es Chiefly British
> To complain or protest, especially in an annoying or persistent manner.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> [Dialectal alteration of Middle English whinsen, from Old English hwinsian.]
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> whinger n.
> whinging·ly adv.
>

It's about time those Brits learned to speak proper English!!!! ;<)

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 6:47 pm
From: "Simon Yorker"

Index the websites and search engines to help you to find the value of your
house. You don't need to contact the
realtor and appraiser . To know the value of your house just a click!

Best Regards
Chris ZiiFa
Address:
e-mail:
web-site: http://www.geocities.com/zifaafena/

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 6:24 pm
From: Mark Anderson

I have this very warm 100% thick wool shirt that I need to clean. I
know you can't wash wool in the washer but is there a simple cheap way
to clean this without having to pay a dry cleaner?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 7:24 pm
From: "Evelyn C. Leeper"

Mark Anderson wrote:
> I have this very warm 100% thick wool shirt that I need to clean. I
> know you can't wash wool in the washer but is there a simple cheap way
> to clean this without having to pay a dry cleaner?
>

Wash it by hand. The recommendations I've seen are to use dish
detergent, not soap. Google around for various suggestions.

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
Life is complex--it has real and imaginary parts. --anonymous

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 23 2008 7:06 pm
From: Logan Shaw

clams_casino wrote:
> Logan Shaw wrote:

>> Therefore, you can't compare the
>> price now with what it was when he took office.

> Wow - You obviously listen to Mr Kudlow - famous for his condemning
> Clinton for holding back the economy and praising GW for the dynamic
> economy over the past seven years.

I have no earthly idea who you're talking about. The closest name
I recognize to Kudlow is Lisa Kudrow, from "Friends", but obviously
that's not the same thing.

Also, I don't think GW is worthy of praise for how he's handled
the economy. As I said before, and despite your apparent attempts
to ignore reality, I don't like GW. I just think that the
difference in price between the stock market today and the price
when GW was elected is not a meaningful number (due to the
extenuating circumstance of the dot-com bubble).

It is not part of my agenda to defend George Bush. I just really
hate poor analysis of the facts. Especially when it amounts to
"our side is great, look how much the other side sucks in every
possible way" cheerleading rhetoric. For the record, in case you
mistake what I'm saying, I hate that when it comes from any side.

- Logan

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