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Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 12:52 am
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Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 4:08 am
From: Al Bundy

On Jan 15, 4:32 pm, "ThomasConsultin...@gmail.com"
<ThomasConsultin...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>

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TOPIC: temporary health insurance for a recent graduate
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 6:14 am
From: Napoleon

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:45:41 -0500, <h> wrote:

>I have a very different take on medical stuff. I don't take medications and
>would not ever consider the treatment options available for diseases like
>cancer (chemo, radiation, etc.) , I'm counting
>on genetics and lifestyle. My mom's 88 and hasn't seen a doctor since she
>had me.

I agree with you on the medical industry in this country. Quite
useless most of the time and outrageously expensive. I believe too
many people in the US are on unnecessary drugs. My aunt is on 5
medications and they are all prescribed to counteract each other. Sad.
I actually went to the doctors once (to get birth control, which
should be free and over the counter but will never be in this
repressed country), and the nurse asked me what medications I was on.
I told her none and looked at me as if I had three heads. She said
that was amazing and that everyone is on medications galore these
days.

Here's my frugal advice about health insurance - drop it if you can't
afford it and take the chance. Exercise, eat right, and try to stay as
healthy as you can. The internet is a great resource for looking up
minor medical ailments that do not require doctors. If you should get
a catastrophic illness, (which is genetically-based most of the time),
then deal with it then. If a hospital or doctor won't treat you
because you have no "insurance" then I guess you die - that's America
for you. So much better than socialized "rationed" care isn't it?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 7:23 am
From:
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> Here's my frugal advice about health insurance - drop it if you can't
> afford it and take the chance. Exercise, eat right, and try to stay as
> healthy as you can. The internet is a great resource for looking up
> minor medical ailments that do not require doctors. If you should get
> a catastrophic illness, (which is genetically-based most of the time),
> then deal with it then. If a hospital or doctor won't treat you
> because you have no "insurance" then I guess you die - that's America
> for you. So much better than socialized "rationed" care isn't it?

I have accepted the fact that if I ever have a heart attack or need an
appendectomy I will probably die because I can't afford treatment. I
hesitated to mention this in my previous posts because it sounds crazy to
most people. If I'm injured in a car accident my auto insurance will pay,
but if something else catastrophic happens to me I've accepted that I will
most likely not be able to afford treatment. The only good thing about the
ridiculous health insurance/medical laws in NY is that doctors and hospitals
cannot sue you nor ruin your credit if you have an outstanding balance as
long as you are making a good faith attempt to pay the bill. So, if you run
up a $100,000 bill (public hospitals MUST treat all patients, even if they
can't pay) and you pay them something each month, they can't add fees,
interest, etc., nor can they report you as delinquent to credit bureaus.
Still, I really can't imagine that I'd ever agree to be hospitalized. I even
have a homemade "uninsurance" card in my wallet informing medical personnel
that except for auto-related injury, I lack insurance and am unable to pay
for any medical care administered to me while unconscious and therefore I do
not consent to treatment.

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TOPIC: Most Frugal and Practical Pickup Truck?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 6:51 am
From: James

On Jan 15, 3:39 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 15, 2:06 pm, James <jl...@idirect.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 2:25 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > I am considering getting my next pickup truck...what is in your
> > > opinion the best candidate for a frugal and practical pickup truck?
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > > TMT
>
> > Too many unanswered questions. Why do you want/need a pickup, whats
> > the biggest load you will carry/tow, whats the max passengers you
> > carry etc.
>
> > Domestic pickups are pretty price competitive given the market.
>
> > If can fit your needs, the Ford Ranger is being heavily discounted as
> > its discontinued. Good on gas. I've rented one and it was fine.
>
> > Of course you know that pickup brands are a dangerous territory
> > becuase people have life long prejudicies. My father grew up with
> > Chevies and will never have anything else. My brother has driven Fords
> > since 1980. Neither would buy a Dodge. Pickups tend to gather long
> > term loyalties.
>
> > James
>
> So did cowboys to their horses...;<)
>
> I NEED a pickup ;<)...I haul too many items that would not fit inside
> a car and the spontaneous nature of the hauling (like finding that
> special tool hundreds of miles from home) means that a car-trailer
> combo won't work.
>
> As for the price competitiveness of domestic pickups, I am not sure on
> that. Try finding an used domestic pickup in good shape at a
> reasonable price...it takes years to find a good match with that
> criteria.
>
> Brand wise I do not care as long as long term maintainance costs are
> low.
>
> TMT- Hide quoted text -

I'm not questioning that you need a pickup. Some people do. But if you
tell us more about why, it will help us define what.

Size is a good place to start. All things being equal a smaller truck
uses less gas, but if a small truck won't meet your needs, whats the
point.

My dad runs a beater truck fullsize chevy 2 door 2x4, nothing newer
than 10 years old. He does have the occasional problem, did have to
replace the tranny, but its cheaper in a pickup than almost any other
vehicle.

James

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