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TOPIC: is it frugal to replace old top loading washer with new front loading
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 5:53 pm
From: "Lou"

"Dave" <noway@nohow.not> wrote in message
news:fth9bf$lpc$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> OK, but that's not a fair comparison. If you bought a top loader 30 years
> ago and it's still going strong, that does not necessarily mean that a top
> loader you buy brand new TODAY will last longer than a front loader of a
> similar brand. I doubt if you could buy any laundry appliance today
(2008)
> that would have a good chance of still going strong in 2018.

I doubt you could have bought one 30 years ago that had a "good" chance of
lasting three decades either. No two machines are precisely alike, or
subject to the same circumstances. Every once in a while, one lasts
exceptionally long.

> Appliances of
> all kinds just aren't made to last anymore.

I remember buying a washer 30 years ago - people were saying the same thing
then.

> If front loaders are more
> popular NOW, then they are getting an undeserved bad rep. for having
> "shorter" longevity than the top loaders that many of us (even me)
remember
> as having lasted decades. If you'd bought a top loader the same time
you'd
> bought your front loader, it might have died after only 7 years also.

And maybe not - my current top loader is about 10 years old.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 5:57 pm
From: "Lou"

"Dave" <noway@nohow.not> wrote in message
news:fth9g1$md5$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
> If you're moving from a top loader to a front loader to save operating
> costs, don't bother. You'll wear out the front loader long before you
> recover your additional purchase cost over an equivalent top loader -
> which will still be running long after the front loader goes to the
> washing machine grave yard.
>
> (snip)
>
> How can you possibly draw that conclusion? Front loaders are more popular
> now COINCIDENTALLY shortly after build quality of all appliances took a
> nosedive. There may be a lot of old top loaders still going strong but if
> front loaders were built to the same standards back 20-40 years ago, there
> would be a lot of THEM still going strong, also.

The thing was, they did make front loaders back then - at least, I had one
some 30-odd years ago. How many 30 year old front loaders do you hear about
that are still operating?

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TOPIC: Anyone ever made barbecue sauce from catsup?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 5:18 pm
From: Dennis

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:05:39 -0500, "OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote:

> Are there any other ingredients that you think I should consider using in
>my quick catsup to barbecue sauce recipe? Do you have a recipe that would
>work like this that you could recommend?

The following link points to our family favorite barbeque sauce
recipe:

http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/661

It is ketchup-based, not particularly quick to make, but well worth
it. My wife usually makes a large batch and then freezes the extra
for future use. Just had some on some baby back ribs last night. Yum!

The accompanying recipe for barbeque dry rub is also a staple at our
house. Works great on pork, chicken or beef.

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--
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 5:40 pm
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <ftj0hk$904$2@aioe.org>, "OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote:

> For years, I've been buying barbecue sauce in bottles that are about 1/4
> the size of the bottles I buy catsup in. The only reason I can think of
> behind this is that they can charge more per ounce for the barbecue sauce
> this way, and make more profit on it.
>
> I found myself looking at the ingredients on the back of a bottle of
> catsup and a bottle of barbecue sauce, and noticed they are pretty similar.
> The barbecue sauce had hickory smoke flavoring, paprika, mustard flour,
> onion powder and garlic powder.
>
> So I'm thinking to myself, hmmm.....
>
> Could I just buy catsup, add these, and end up with barbecue sauce? I
> already have most of these ingredients, except for the mustard flour. (which
> I've never seen on the spice racks)
>
> I've never been completely satisfied with any of the barbecue sauces I've
> tried from the store, so not only would this be an opportunity to be frugal,
> it would also be a way for me to personalize a barbecue sauce recipe to my
> family's taste. We could have a blind taste test using different recipes,
> then stick with the one our family members vote for as best tasting.
>
> Are there any other ingredients that you think I should consider using in
> my quick catsup to barbecue sauce recipe? Do you have a recipe that would
> work like this that you could recommend?

Most barbecue sauces are made with ketchup. Just google for "barbecue
sauce recipe" and you'll get hundreds of hits.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 9 2008 9:25 pm
From: Gordon

"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in news:ftj0hk$904$2@aioe.org:

> For years, I've been buying barbecue sauce in bottles that are about
> 1/4
> the size of the bottles I buy catsup in. The only reason I can think
> of behind this is that they can charge more per ounce for the barbecue
> sauce this way, and make more profit on it.
>
> I found myself looking at the ingredients on the back of a bottle of
> catsup and a bottle of barbecue sauce, and noticed they are pretty
> similar. The barbecue sauce had hickory smoke flavoring, paprika,
> mustard flour, onion powder and garlic powder.
>
> So I'm thinking to myself, hmmm.....
>
> Could I just buy catsup, add these, and end up with barbecue sauce?
> I
> already have most of these ingredients, except for the mustard flour.
> (which I've never seen on the spice racks)
>
> I've never been completely satisfied with any of the barbecue sauces
> I've
> tried from the store, so not only would this be an opportunity to be
> frugal, it would also be a way for me to personalize a barbecue sauce
> recipe to my family's taste. We could have a blind taste test using
> different recipes, then stick with the one our family members vote for
> as best tasting.
>
> Are there any other ingredients that you think I should consider
> using in
> my quick catsup to barbecue sauce recipe? Do you have a recipe that
> would work like this that you could recommend?
>
> Thanks!
>
>

Even catsup is expensive compared to plain old tomato sauce.
You can make bar-b-q sauce from that by adding somthing sweet
(brown suger or honey), somthing hot(garlic, tabasco sauce),
somthing sour (vinegar), Anything else like onions or spices
will add flavor.

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