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TOPIC: Palin splurgin' on $2,500 silk jackets and other high fashion
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 1:06 pm
From: dennism3@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M)
In article
<0f328d0c-c591-4713-89ab-1f9af18b2ebe@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Rich
Hutnik <richardhutnik@gmail.com> wrote:
>There are days that I long for John Edward's haircut not being made a
>political issue. Now, we have to pay attention to the cost of clothes
>that people are wearing, like McCain's loafers and his wife's
>wardrobe.
You're damn right we have to pay attention to decadent personal spending by
Republican leaders, because they're being hypocritical.
== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 1:22 pm
From: Dennis
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:43:20 -0600, timeOday
<timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:
>Val N. Teenow wrote:
>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
>Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
Absolutely inane question. Duh!
I don't have a dog in this fight -- I don't support Obama/Biden or
McCain/Palin. But I love the way that Palin has the shellshocked Dems
and the sycophant media scrambling to discredit her. What a great
move by the McCain campaign!
Best of all, I get to sit back and laugh at the petty ridiculousness
exhibited by both sides!
Deja vu -- it would be great if we had a presidential election that
offered more than Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 1:37 pm
From: "Dano"
Gumby wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2:26 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> charliekilo wrote:
>>> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
>>> news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Val N. Teenow wrote:
>>>>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>>
>>>> Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>>
>>> Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor
>>> is $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a
>>> production manager in the oil field and add his professional
>>> fisherman income...they probably have at least a $275,000 annual
>>> income, no state income tax and a low cost of living...I can easily
>>> see how she could splurge on a $2500 jacket.
>>
>> You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket seems
>> just a tad extravagent to this middle class voter
>
> You're not a woman, obviously. Saks, Nordstrom, etc. normally sell
> silk jackets for well above $2,000. Lots of people buy them; even
> those who are not filthy rich.
Thank goodness my wife isn't one of them. See this is what we're talking
about in regards to the inequity of wealth and the burden of taxation. IMO,
anyone with the disposable income available for that type of discretionary
spending should be ashamed to whine about taxes.
== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 1:41 pm
From: "Dano"
charliekilo wrote:
> "Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:aOCdnY8cf55-xEzVnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> charliekilo wrote:
>>> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
>>> news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Val N. Teenow wrote:
>>>>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>>>>
>>>> Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>>>
>>> Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor
>>> is $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a
>>> production manager in the oil field and add his professional
>>> fisherman income...they probably have at least a $275,000 annual
>>> income, no state income tax and a low cost of living...I can easily
>>> see how she could splurge on a $2500 jacket.
>>
>> You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket seems
>> just a tad extravagent to this middle class voter...but a "low cost
>> of living"? In Alaska? Really? You think?
>
> $2500 bucks for a jacket...for one of the biggest events in your life
> doesn't seem too extravagant to me. My wife and I together make a
> little more than they do, we live well within our means, and while my
> wife doesn't have a $2500 jacket she does have several $2500 suits
> and a whole bunch of purses in the $1000 range (*That* seems
> extravagant to me. lol!). As for cost of living, compared to my
> domicile in Austin, TX, Wasilla, AK seems cheap -- at least housing
> costs.
Congratulations on your wealth and success. I hope you aren't one of those
whining about and voting primarily on your taxes being raised or lowered.
I'll just add, I don't consider our family to be under-privileged in any
way...though we would appear to make far less than you...half as much I'm
guessing. I guarantee my wife NEVER spent over 2 grand on any garment. I
don't believe her wedding gown cost that. We were fortunate that we could
piece together a down payment for a home.
== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 2:09 pm
From: lorad
On Sep 17, 12:09 pm, "charliekilo" <miles_kra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
>
> news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > Val N. Teenow wrote:
> >> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> > Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>
> Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
> $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a production
> manager in the oil field and add his professional fisherman income...they
> probably have at least a $275,000 annual income, no state income tax and a
> low cost of living...I can easily see how she could splurge on a $2500
> jacket.
BS...
Here's how Palin pays for her bubble head fashion statements - she
uses taxpayer money:
"Four years later, the ambitious Palin won the Wasilla mayor's office
-- after scorching the "tax and spend mentality" of her incumbent
opponent. But Carney, Palin's estranged former mentor, and others in
city hall were astounded when they found out about a lavish
expenditure of Palin's own after her 1996 election. According to
Carney, the newly elected mayor spent more than $50,000 in city funds
to redecorate her office, without the council's authorization. "
"I thought it was an outrageous expense, especially for someone who
had run as a budget cutter," said Carney. "It was also illegal,
because Sarah had not received the council's approval."
According to Carney, Palin's office makeover included flocked, red
wallpaper. "It looked like a bordello."
Although Carney says he no longer has documentation of the
expenditures, in his recollection Palin paid for the office face-lift
with money from a city highway fund that was used to plow snow, grade
roads and fill potholes -- essential municipal services, particularly
in weather-battered Alaska.
Carney confronted Mayor Palin at a City Council hearing, and was
shocked by her response.
"I braced her about it," he said. "I told her it was against the law
to make such a large expenditure without the council taking a vote.
She said, 'I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts
tell me I can't.'"
"I'll never forget it -- it's one of the few times in my life I've
been speechless," Carney added. "It would have been easier for her to
finesse it. She had the votes on the council by then, she controlled
it. But she just pushed forward. That's Sarah. She just has no respect
for rules and regulations."
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/index.html
== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 2:34 pm
From: Gogarty
In article
<0f328d0c-c591-4713-89ab-1f9af18b2ebe@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
richardhutnik@gmail.com says...
>On Sep 17, 3:26 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> charliekilo wrote:
>> > "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
>> >news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> Val N. Teenow wrote:
>> >>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>>
>> >> Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>>
>> > Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
>> > $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a
>> > production manager in the oil field and add his professional
>> > fisherman income...they probably have at least a $275,000 annual
>> > income, no state income tax and a low cost of living...I can easily
>> > see how she could splurge on a $2500 jacket.
>>
>> You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket seems just a
tad
>> extravagent to this middle class voter...but a "low cost of living"? In
>> Alaska? Really? You think?
>
>There are days that I long for John Edward's haircut not being made a
>political issue. Now, we have to pay attention to the cost of clothes
>that people are wearing, like McCain's loafers and his wife's
>wardrobe. How about competency be the issue, rather than whether or
>not the candidate is "like us"? Eating a baloney sandwich like Dubya
>does isn't a measure for how good of a president they will be.
>
>- Rich
You are banished! SDuch common sense is not permitted here, nor seldom seen.
== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 2:57 pm
From: Gumby
On Sep 17, 3:37 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Gumby wrote:
> > On Sep 17, 2:26 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> charliekilo wrote:
> >>> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>> Val N. Teenow wrote:
> >>>>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> >>>> Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>
> >>> Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor
> >>> is $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a
> >>> production manager in the oil field and add his professional
> >>> fisherman income...they probably have at least a $275,000 annual
> >>> income, no state income tax and a low cost of living...I can easily
> >>> see how she could splurge on a $2500 jacket.
>
> >> You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket seems
> >> just a tad extravagent to this middle class voter
>
> > You're not a woman, obviously. Saks, Nordstrom, etc. normally sell
> > silk jackets for well above $2,000. Lots of people buy them; even
> > those who are not filthy rich.
>
> Thank goodness my wife isn't one of them. See this is what we're talking
> about in regards to the inequity of wealth and the burden of taxation. IMO,
> anyone with the disposable income available for that type of discretionary
> spending should be ashamed to whine about taxes.
You tell 'em, komrade!
== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:08 pm
From: clams_casino
charliekilo wrote:
>"timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
>news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>
>>Val N. Teenow wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>>>
>>>
>>Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>>
>>
>
>Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
>$125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a production
>manager in the oil field and add his professional fisherman income...they
>probably have at least a $275,000 annual income, no state income tax and a
>low cost of living...I can easily see how she could splurge on a $2500
>jacket.
>
>
>
>
Plus they receive that $3269 x 7 = $22,883 welfare check from the
state of AK from the excess profits tax on oil.
Of course, that money would normally be used for state expenditures
but AK gets $5 back from the federal government for each dollar they
send in federal income taxes, which actually gets borrowed from China.
So who is picking up the tab? Your children will, eventually.
== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:10 pm
From: znuybv
On Sep 17, 12:26 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> charliekilo wrote:
> > "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
> >news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Val N. Teenow wrote:
> >>> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> >> Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>
> > Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
> > $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a
> > production manager in the oil field and add his professional
> > fisherman income...they probably have at least a $275,000 annual
> > income, no state income tax and a low cost of living...I can easily
> > see how she could splurge on a $2500 jacket.
>
> You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket seems just a tad
> extravagent to this middle class voter...but a "low cost of living"? In
> Alaska? Really? You think?
No way. That wouldn't even get you into an Obama fund raiser.
$28,000 plus another $2,500 to here Babs sing.
Save your money. Vote for Palin.
== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:10 pm
From: clams_casino
Gumby wrote:
>On Sep 17, 2:26 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>charliekilo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
>>>news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Val N. Teenow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Good question. Who's picking up the tab?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
>>>$125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a
>>>production manager in the oil field and add his professional
>>>fisherman income...they probably have at least a $275,000 annual
>>>income, no state income tax and a low cost of living...I can easily
>>>see how she could splurge on a $2500 jacket.
>>>
>>>
>>You may be right...although 2,500 bucks for a SINGLE jacket seems just a tad
>>extravagent to this middle class voter
>>
>>
>
>You're not a woman, obviously. Saks, Nordstrom, etc. normally sell
>silk jackets for well above $2,000. Lots of people buy them; even
>those who are not filthy rich.
>
>
>
And as the Republican party is explaining it, Sarah represents a typical
middle class working woman with children.
Is there any doubt these people are completely out of touch?
== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:12 pm
From: clams_casino
Rich Hutnik wrote:
>There are days that I long for John Edward's haircut not being made a
>political issue. Now, we have to pay attention to the cost of clothes
>that people are wearing, like McCain's loafers and his wife's
>wardrobe. How about competency be the issue, rather than whether or
>not the candidate is "like us"?
>
Except She and McCain are making a big issue that the Palin family is a
typical middle class family.
Hmm - Someone is obviously way out of touch with reality.
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 1:53 pm
From: William Souden
JR Weiss wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> There really are no guarantees.
>> Yes there are. . .
>>> Even if the FDIC guarantees your bank deposits against bank failures, your
>>> deposits aren't guaranteed against inflation, nor devaluation of the dollar.
>> They can be guaranteed against both if you organise them properly.
>
> Oh great financial guru, pray tell ALL of us how to "organise them properly" to
> secure guarantees against both inflation and devaluation!
>
> Of course, as always, we'll understand completely if you can't back up your
> claims with even a single fact. We're used to that...
His idea of facts are to whine "bullshit", and "irrelevant" or to go
into his paper bag or flushing bots.
Funny to see a lifetime welfare recipient claim that those
depending on Social Security are the dregs of society.
>
>
== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 2:33 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Chief Thracian <chief_thracian@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> All that said, yeah, the markets are way too volatile for people in or very near retirement.
>>>>>> Wrong again. All those close to retirement have to do is avoid the most volatile markets.
>>>>> EVERY market is highly volatile, dufus
>>>> Cash under the bed isnt, fool.
>>> And what if a fire burns away all your moolah?
>> Anyone with a clue puts it in a fire proof safe, fuckwit.
> You said cash under the bed, Changing your tune now, are you?
Nope, you put the fireproof safe under the bed, fuckwit.
<reams of your juvenile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 2:45 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Chief Thracian <chief_thracian@yahoo.com> wrote
> John Que Public <jquepub@nullport.ca> wrote
>> Hell yes! Jack the taxes through the roof on those evil corporations.
>> Of course they will simply pass on the corporate taxes by raising the
>> prices of the products they manufacture or sell and the consumer will
>> pay the taxes.
> That's one of the loopholes that needs to be closed.
Not even possible.
> Taxes based on profits, not expenses.
Expenses have to be a tax deduction, otherwise low margin operations
end up getting crushed out of existence by taxation, fool.
> Limit the profits to something reasonable,
Which is what the current system does, fool.
> which will also limit how much customers will be charged.
Wrong, as always. Its always worth making more profit and paying the tax on the profit.
>> FYI: All taxes are paid by the little guys so any tax
>> increase to any group falls on the backs of consumers.
> Wrong....
Nope, fact.
> the main problem is the warped disttribution of wealth.
And any country that is stupid enough to try taxing the wealth of the wealthy away
just sees the wealthy leave the country and take the jobs they produce with them.
> Workers make corporations rich...
Wrong, as always. The stinking rich in modern first world countrys get that way by
doing what Gates, Buffet, Brim etc did, and thats got nothing to do with 'workers'
> yet very liftle of the resulting assets are shared with workers.
Another bare faced pig ignorant lie. Have a look at how many millionaires Microsoft produced sometime.
> Brainwash employees to think that is a communistic
> approach, and you have them fighting against their own
> well being...against living wages and universal health care.
Like happened with GM and Ford etc, right ?
>> The auto industry is a prime example of tax and government program
>> cost increase being passed on to the consumer. In 1974 a new ford 1/2
>> ton van cost around $4000.00
> I don't care WHAT rationale you use to justify criminal capitalism,
> 'cause we already have successful economies in the rest of the
> advanced nations that do exactly as I've suggested needs be done here.
Then you had better set fire to yourself in 'protest' or something, child.
>> When government involves itself in the taxation, production or operation
>> of any business the consumer is the one that pays the added cost.
> And by the same token, government can be altered to protect its
> citizens from stealth capitalism that destroys communities, pushes
> people onto the streets, denies decent health care, and steals our
> hopes for a better world. Government is anything the people want it to be.
And most of them are too stupid to even vote for a universal national health care system.
== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 2:50 pm
From: William Souden
Rod Speed wrote:
> Chief Thracian <chief_thracian@yahoo.com> wrote
>> John Que Public <jquepub@nullport.ca> wrote
>
>>> Hell yes! Jack the taxes through the roof on those evil corporations.
>>> Of course they will simply pass on the corporate taxes by raising the
>>> prices of the products they manufacture or sell and the consumer will
>>> pay the taxes.
>
>> That's one of the loopholes that needs to be closed.
>
> Not even possible.
>
>> Taxes based on profits, not expenses.
>
> Expenses have to be a tax deduction, otherwise low margin operations
> end up getting crushed out of existence by taxation, fool.
>
>> Limit the profits to something reasonable,
>
> Which is what the current system does, fool.
>
>> which will also limit how much customers will be charged.
>
> Wrong, as always. Its always worth making more profit and paying the tax on the profit.
>
>>> FYI: All taxes are paid by the little guys so any tax
>>> increase to any group falls on the backs of consumers.
>
>> Wrong....
>
> Nope, fact.
>
>> the main problem is the warped disttribution of wealth.
>
> And any country that is stupid enough to try taxing the wealth of the wealthy away
> just sees the wealthy leave the country and take the jobs they produce with them.
>
>> Workers make corporations rich...
>
> Wrong, as always. The stinking rich in modern first world countrys get that way by
> doing what Gates, Buffet, Brim etc did, and thats got nothing to do with 'workers'
>
>> yet very liftle of the resulting assets are shared with workers.
>
> Another bare faced pig ignorant lie. Have a look at how many millionaires Microsoft produced sometime.
>
>> Brainwash employees to think that is a communistic
>> approach, and you have them fighting against their own
>> well being...against living wages and universal health care.
>
> Like happened with GM and Ford etc, right ?
>
>>> The auto industry is a prime example of tax and government program
>>> cost increase being passed on to the consumer. In 1974 a new ford 1/2
>>> ton van cost around $4000.00
>
>> I don't care WHAT rationale you use to justify criminal capitalism,
>> 'cause we already have successful economies in the rest of the
>> advanced nations that do exactly as I've suggested needs be done here.
>
> Then you had better set fire to yourself in 'protest' or something, child.
>
>>> When government involves itself in the taxation, production or operation
>>> of any business the consumer is the one that pays the added cost.
>
>> And by the same token, government can be altered to protect its
>> citizens from stealth capitalism that destroys communities, pushes
>> people onto the streets, denies decent health care, and steals our
>> hopes for a better world. Government is anything the people want it to be.
>
> And most of them are too stupid to even vote for a universal national health care system.
When was it ever on the ballot?
Be glad you have in Australia,welfare boy, otherwise you would be
living on a cardboard box.
Come one,little man, give me the flushing bot.
>
>
== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 2:58 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Chief Thracian <chief_thracian@yahoo.com> wrote
> not@home.org (Barack's Bomber, Bill Ayres) wrote
>> Chief Thracian <chief_thracian@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Historians tell us that since the inception of homo sapiens,
>> the world has been at peace for something like 16 minutes.
> And the USA hasn't been helping any, either.
Another pig ignorant lie. The US did attempt to stay out of WW2 and let the
stupid europeans rip their throats out yet again. Then the Japs were stupid
enough to do Pearl Harbour and they decided that that couldnt be ignored.
>> Regarding the present, tell your whine to Akmed and those who
>> are on a global mission to convert, enslave, or kill all infidels.
> We need to start addressing the evils right here at home, too.
You're always welcome to set fire to yourself in 'protest', child.
> Plenty of terrorism, violence,, religious fanaticism going on here, too.
There is right thruout the entire world, child.
> Plenty of poverty, homelessness, homophobia, racism, misogeny, etc.
> This nation's an unholy mess.
You're always welcome to set fire to yourself in 'protest', child.
>>> WWII is just ONE war. Which COULD have been averted if we didn't
>>> have so much business selling Nazis war material. But WWII was
>>> planned by our own gov't, as a way for the elite to get even richer.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
>> Are you Neville Chamberlain's great grandson?
> There is no denying the US businesses invested heavily
> in the Nazi empire, which fostered the last great war.
They invested in germany LONG before the nazis showed up, child.
> That fact does not make anyone a Neville Chamberlain, simply for stating it.
That wasnt the reason he said that, child.
>> Perhaps you'd find life more enjoyable in a utopia like Cuba, North Korea, or Vietnam.
> Of course not. My claim is the US is barely any better, these days.
You're always welcome to set fire to yourself in 'protest', child.
> We've become a fascist empire.
You wouldnt know what a real fascist was if one bit you on your lard arse, child.
> How convenient of you to NOT cite those nations in which I WOULD find
> life more enjoyable, because democratic ideals are better practiced there:
> Holland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Spain, France, Canada, New Zealand,
> Australia, and most of the remaining western-civilized nations.
You're always welcome to fuck off to any of those that will have you, child.
Bet none of them are actually that stupid.
>> Perhaps you'd savor life in one of the 57 Muslim countries.
>> If you're a female, I'm sure you'd enjoy practicing the quaint
>> traditions of Sharia law.
> I'm a gay male.
Your problem.
> Gays are treated even worse than women are, in Islam.
Your problem.
> But gays are not much better off here in the US.
Your problem.
> We gays are terrorized 24/7/365 here in the so-called free world of Amerika.
You're always welcome to set fire to yourself in 'protest', child.
>> I've heard of the wonders of national health from my friends in UK.
>> They get to pull their own teeth, wait a mere 6 months to get MRIs,
>> 2 years to see a psychiatrist .... rejection of obese patients ...
>> delaying necessary treatment for cancer patients ....
> You pick the worst example of health care in western europe.
And lied about how it works too.
> How convenient of you. And Canada has been sabotaged by the overrunning
> of US for-profit health services, which should never have been allowed.
> France, Spain, Holland, Scandanavia and various other western nations
> are far superior w/health care than the US/England/Canada.
You're always welcome to set fire to yourself in 'protest', child.
>> Hey, if it talks like a commie, and smells like a commie ......
> Go ahead, be as ignorant as you want, you're a brainwashed dolt. So
> anything that is a compassionate plan is "communistic". Good show!
> YOU'RE kind of democracy is indistinguishable from a Nazi regime.
Havent noticed any concentration camps or millions of jews being gassed and cremated, child.
== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:09 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Chief Thracian <chief_thracian@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Chief Thracian <chief_thracian@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> not@home.org (Barack's Bomber, Bill Ayres) wrote
>>>>>> Fine? What about the incalculable suffering and deaths?
>>>> Yeah, that seems to accompany wars.
>>> Wars that are not necessary.
>> Yes, you are always welcome to hand out flowers to invaders, and die.
>>>> Well, we could have been appeasement apostles and perhaps you'd
>>>> be living under Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, or Islamic Sharia law.
>>> WWII is just ONE war. Which COULD have been averted if
>>> we didn't have so much business selling Nazis war material.
>> The US was completely irrelevant to WW2 until Pearl Harbour, you ignorant clown.
> FDR knew about Japan's plan to bomb Peral Harbour, but kept silent.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
> He could have stopped them before they could ever bomb.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
> He let war happen, as it would profit Amerikan corporations.
Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a fucking clue about anything at all, ever.
>>>> Do you think you'd be able to run your mouth under them, as freely as you do now?
>>> Well, since we helped to creat that war, I'd say our leaders already WERE Nazis,,,,
>> You wouldnt know what a real Nazi was if one bit you on your lard arse, child.
>>> and our supposed freedoms were simply illusions all along.
>> So now that you have spilled the beans on the rich, they'll have you executed eh ?
> They would if they could.
But you have them fooled with that pathetic excuse for a nick eh ?
> And they're trying as much as they can to execute ALL good patriots who denounce our corrupt government.
How odd that they havent managed to find you, child.
They dont even have the draft anymore, child.
<reams of your juvenile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
JR Weiss <jrweiss98155remove@remove.comcast.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> There really are no guarantees.
>> Yes there are. . .
>>> Even if the FDIC guarantees your bank deposits against bank
>>> failures, your deposits aren't guaranteed against inflation, nor
>>> devaluation of the dollar.
>> They can be guaranteed against both if you organise them properly.
> Oh great financial guru, pray tell ALL of us how to "organise them
> properly" to secure guarantees against both inflation and devaluation!
Completely trivial to organise them so that inflation wont affect
them just by having them where they do better than inflation.
The devaluation of the dollar is completely irrelevant when the bulk
of what you buy comes from within the country or from that other
country that chooses to have its currency loosely linked to the USD.
And if say you are planning to spend much of it outside the country, its
completely trivial to have it in a currency that you believe will do better
than the USD too, or the currency of the country you plan to spend it in etc.
<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:21 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In <48d13b46.5182841@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com>, Chief Thracian wrote:
>On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:41:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Anyone with a clue puts it in a fire proof safe, fuckwit.
>
>You said cash under the bed, Changing your tune now, are you?
>
>You're not particularly intelligent...that fact virtually screams at
>anyone who reads your silly rants.
>
>You're obviously a very disturbed and angry little loser. Typical ugly
>Amerikan. You should leave.
The subtroll is in Australia. People who like to irritate other people
so much may not live too long in America, where half the people have guns.
There is even a FAQ on him.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:34 pm
From: William Souden
Rod Speed wrote:
> JR Weiss <jrweiss98155remove@remove.comcast.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> There really are no guarantees.
>
>>> Yes there are. . .
>
>>>> Even if the FDIC guarantees your bank deposits against bank
>>>> failures, your deposits aren't guaranteed against inflation, nor
>>>> devaluation of the dollar.
>
>>> They can be guaranteed against both if you organise them properly.
>
>> Oh great financial guru, pray tell ALL of us how to "organise them
>> properly" to secure guarantees against both inflation and devaluation!
>
> Completely trivial to organise them so that inflation wont affect
> them just by having them where they do better than inflation.
>
> The devaluation of the dollar is completely irrelevant when the bulk
> of what you buy comes from within the country or from that other
> country that chooses to have its currency loosely linked to the USD.
>
> And if say you are planning to spend much of it outside the country, its
> completely trivial to have it in a currency that you believe will do better
> than the USD too, or the currency of the country you plan to spend it in etc.
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
>
>
Off your meds again,welfare boy?
== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:36 pm
From: William Souden
Don Klipstein wrote:
> In <48d13b46.5182841@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com>, Chief Thracian wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:41:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone with a clue puts it in a fire proof safe, fuckwit.
>> You said cash under the bed, Changing your tune now, are you?
>>
>> You're not particularly intelligent...that fact virtually screams at
>> anyone who reads your silly rants.
>>
>> You're obviously a very disturbed and angry little loser. Typical ugly
>> Amerikan. You should leave.
>
> The subtroll is in Australia. People who like to irritate other people
> so much may not live too long in America, where half the people have guns.
> There is even a FAQ on him.
>
Rod serves a purpose. The rest of us can be thankful that,unlike
Rod, we have lives,jobs,money and friends.
== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 4:37 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Don Klipstein <don@manx.misty.com> wrote:
> In <48d13b46.5182841@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com>, Chief
> Thracian wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:41:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone with a clue puts it in a fire proof safe, fuckwit.
>>
>> You said cash under the bed, Changing your tune now, are you?
>>
>> You're not particularly intelligent...that fact virtually screams at
>> anyone who reads your silly rants.
>>
>> You're obviously a very disturbed and angry little loser. Typical
>> ugly Amerikan. You should leave.
>
> The subtroll is in Australia. People who like to irritate other people
> so much may not live too long in America, where half the people have guns.
Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that they dont work thru the net.
> There is even a FAQ on him.
You're jealous.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:15 pm
From: clams_casino
jack wrote:
>Hey Guys,
>I found this site when I was searching for free MP3 songs.
>Let me know if you guys like it.
>
>
You found your own site?
No, your spam is not appreciated here.
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TOPIC: What's an average wait time for large checks deposited?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 3:43 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <gaqq8a$aj6$1@aioe.org>, OhioGuy wrote:
> I just sold some stocks so that we could finally pay off our mortgage
>completely. I got the checks from scottrade in the mail yesterday, and went
>to deposit them. I was told there would be a delay before the funds would
>be available. I figured it would be maybe 3 days. They told me it would be
>5, so I figured max of 1 week including the weekend.
>
> When I got home, I noticed that the receipt said the funds would be
>available OCTOBER 1, not the 5 days I had been told. So now I have to wait
>a full two weeks before paying off the mortgage, which seems excessive.
>It's a whole half month they get to keep my $ and I can't do anything with
>it.
>
> Now I'm remembering that we had to wait a whole week when we deposited our
>tax refund, and that was directly from the US Treasury. The US Treasury and
>Scottrade are well known, trusted entities, so why in the world are they
>making us wait so long for funds to be available? What is the purpose? I
>thought they usually just scanned the checks and transferred the funds in a
>day, like a wire transfer.
>
> Are these normal wait times at banks for "large" deposits of around $11k?
>I'm wondering why the cashier told me 5 days, but it turns out to be 15.
I have had excessive delays on large checks also, at 2 different banks.
I have even changed banks over this once because the delay appeared to me
to be BS.
And if Congress passes yet another law regulating behaviour of
businesses, in this case the industry will have only itself to blame.
Tell your congressman and your senator about this. Your Congressman is
running for re-election, unless retiring instead.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 5:16 pm
From: Derald
George Grapman <sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:
>A few times I have asked companies to detail the charges before I
>order and have found that the shipping charges far exceed their actual
>cost
LOL! Reminds me of an experience I had in the late '80's: I geeked
for one of those 8-for-a-penny computer book deals. Well, the invoice
included about a $24.00 shipping/handling charge. Of course, I returned
the order along with a request for an employment application, provided
that they really were paying order-pickers the wages implied by the s&h
charge. To date, no reply....
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