Frugal Living: misc.consumers.frugal-living - 26 new messages in 8 topics

Monday, January 12, 2009

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TOPIC: Most effective grease removal from clothes?
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 10:24 pm
From: downing@downingone.com

On Jan 11, 5:08 am, brassplyer <brasspl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Grease stains seem to be really tenacious. Thinking primarily
> petroleum-based grease - automotive etc. Anyone found a product or
> combination of products a/or methods that's really effective getting
> it out without damaging the cloth?

This May come as a shock, But saturate both sides of the stain with
shout right before washing.

The stain will come out! I have actually done this after the garment
has been ran through the dryer!

Just make sure the stain is really saturated both sides:)

Yale

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 5:48 am
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)

In article <gked1i$nnj$1@news.motzarella.org>, "Evelyn" <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
>news:d5qdnSc8upfsjvfUnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
>> In article
>> <248516b3-dc95-45c1-b458-9c8d05dcdeb8@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>> brassplyer <brassplyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Grease stains seem to be really tenacious. Thinking primarily
>>>petroleum-based grease - automotive etc. Anyone found a product or
>>>combination of products a/or methods that's really effective getting
>>>it out without damaging the cloth?
>>
>> The white gel-type hand cleaners work very well; available at just about
>> any auto parts store for $0.50 or $1.00 per tub. I keep a tub next to the
>> laundry supplies in my utility room for this very purpose.
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> --
>> Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
>>
>> "Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
>> General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody
>
>
>
>Go into the hardware store and ask for "Goo Gone." I use it on greasy
>stains in the laundry, or on that gummy stuff that holds labels, or on
>grease spots anywhere. I have actually used it safely on a silk shirt.
>I keep a bottle of it in the laundry room, and hubby has one in the garage.
>Great stuff. Squirt it on the stain, then wash as usual. Preferably with
>rather warm water.

Similar action, WD-40 will soften up the smudge, then use lots
of hot soap to remove.

greg

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 6:47 am
From: "Evelyn"

"GregS" <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote in message
news:gkfhoc$s2a$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu...
> In article <gked1i$nnj$1@news.motzarella.org>, "Evelyn"
> <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
>>news:d5qdnSc8upfsjvfUnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
>>> In article
>>> <248516b3-dc95-45c1-b458-9c8d05dcdeb8@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>>> brassplyer <brassplyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>Grease stains seem to be really tenacious. Thinking primarily
>>>>petroleum-based grease - automotive etc. Anyone found a product or
>>>>combination of products a/or methods that's really effective getting
>>>>it out without damaging the cloth?
>>>
>>> The white gel-type hand cleaners work very well; available at just about
>>> any auto parts store for $0.50 or $1.00 per tub. I keep a tub next to
>>> the
>>> laundry supplies in my utility room for this very purpose.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
>>>
>>> "Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
>>> General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody
>>
>>
>>
>>Go into the hardware store and ask for "Goo Gone." I use it on greasy
>>stains in the laundry, or on that gummy stuff that holds labels, or on
>>grease spots anywhere. I have actually used it safely on a silk shirt.
>>I keep a bottle of it in the laundry room, and hubby has one in the
>>garage.
>>Great stuff. Squirt it on the stain, then wash as usual. Preferably
>>with
>>rather warm water.
>
> Similar action, WD-40 will soften up the smudge, then use lots
> of hot soap to remove.
>
> greg

I squirt it on the stain then throw the garment into the washer. It never
needs a second treatment. Been using Goo gone for probably over 15 years
now with great results.

--
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn

Rest in a sky-like mind.
Sit like a mountain floating on the earth.
Breathe like the wind circling the world

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 7:33 am
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)

In article <gkfl6r$2p8$1@news.motzarella.org>, "Evelyn" <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>"GregS" <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote in message
>news:gkfhoc$s2a$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu...
>> In article <gked1i$nnj$1@news.motzarella.org>, "Evelyn"
>> <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
>>>news:d5qdnSc8upfsjvfUnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
>>>> In article
>>>> <248516b3-dc95-45c1-b458-9c8d05dcdeb8@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> brassplyer <brassplyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>Grease stains seem to be really tenacious. Thinking primarily
>>>>>petroleum-based grease - automotive etc. Anyone found a product or
>>>>>combination of products a/or methods that's really effective getting
>>>>>it out without damaging the cloth?
>>>>
>>>> The white gel-type hand cleaners work very well; available at just about
>>>> any auto parts store for $0.50 or $1.00 per tub. I keep a tub next to
>>>> the
>>>> laundry supplies in my utility room for this very purpose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
>>>>
>>>> "Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
>>>> General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Go into the hardware store and ask for "Goo Gone." I use it on greasy
>>>stains in the laundry, or on that gummy stuff that holds labels, or on
>>>grease spots anywhere. I have actually used it safely on a silk shirt.
>>>I keep a bottle of it in the laundry room, and hubby has one in the
>>>garage.
>>>Great stuff. Squirt it on the stain, then wash as usual. Preferably
>>>with
>>>rather warm water.
>>
>> Similar action, WD-40 will soften up the smudge, then use lots
>> of hot soap to remove.
>>
>> greg
>
>
>I squirt it on the stain then throw the garment into the washer. It never
>needs a second treatment. Been using Goo gone for probably over 15 years
>now with great results.

I was just picking up a tube of hand cleaner yesterday. Its always missing when you need it.
I was going to say, most hand cleaners designed for the garage mechanic
should also work pretty good.

greg

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 8:37 am
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)

In article <gkfnrq$6u$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote:
>In article <gkfl6r$2p8$1@news.motzarella.org>, "Evelyn" <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>"GregS" <zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com> wrote in message
>>news:gkfhoc$s2a$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu...
>>> In article <gked1i$nnj$1@news.motzarella.org>, "Evelyn"
>>> <evelyn.ruut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:d5qdnSc8upfsjvfUnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <248516b3-dc95-45c1-b458-9c8d05dcdeb8@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> brassplyer <brassplyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Grease stains seem to be really tenacious. Thinking primarily
>>>>>>petroleum-based grease - automotive etc. Anyone found a product or
>>>>>>combination of products a/or methods that's really effective getting
>>>>>>it out without damaging the cloth?
>>>>>
>>>>> The white gel-type hand cleaners work very well; available at just about
>>>>> any auto parts store for $0.50 or $1.00 per tub. I keep a tub next to
>>>>> the
>>>>> laundry supplies in my utility room for this very purpose.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> "Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
>>>>> General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Go into the hardware store and ask for "Goo Gone." I use it on greasy
>>>>stains in the laundry, or on that gummy stuff that holds labels, or on
>>>>grease spots anywhere. I have actually used it safely on a silk shirt.
>>>>I keep a bottle of it in the laundry room, and hubby has one in the
>>>>garage.
>>>>Great stuff. Squirt it on the stain, then wash as usual. Preferably
>>>>with
>>>>rather warm water.
>>>
>>> Similar action, WD-40 will soften up the smudge, then use lots
>>> of hot soap to remove.
>>>
>>> greg
>>
>>
>>I squirt it on the stain then throw the garment into the washer. It never
>>needs a second treatment. Been using Goo gone for probably over 15 years
>>now with great results.
>
>
>I was just picking up a tube of hand cleaner yesterday. Its always missing when
> you need it.
>I was going to say, most hand cleaners designed for the garage mechanic
>should also work pretty good.

WD-40 will also help remove enamel paint. I had some shoe dye stain
some time a go. It was very difficult to remove. With combinations
of lacquer, MEK, and Toluline, I was able to remove after much rubbing.

greg

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 9:28 am
From: tweeny90655@mypacks.net

On Jan 11, 10:23 pm, "Evelyn" <evelyn.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I used to do that before I discovered Goo Gone. It is really amazing on
> grease spots. As the person who does the cooking in this house, I use it a
> lot on my clothing.

I have never tried Goo-gone on fabric. Will keep it in mind.

I was trying to give a frugal alternative. A bar of Fels lasts eons .

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TOPIC: Coffee Filters--who knew?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 12:34 am
From: Dan Birchall

Quite the list. Best, of course, if coffee filters happen to be
insanely cheap compared to all the other things that might be used
to do the jobs. :)

(I have no idea if they are - I don't drink coffee.)

--
http://ChocoLocate.com/ - The Chocolate Lovers' Page, established 1994.

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TOPIC: OT - Survivalism Retail Style
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 11:49 pm
From: Coffee's For Closers

In article <496a5f1f$0$20227$7836cce5@newsrazor.net>,
CurlySurmudgeon@live.com says...

> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:05:18 +0000, EskWIRED wrote:

> > In misc.survivalism Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote:

> > Curly - your ignorance of facts colors your conclusions.

> Fuck you and your insults.

--
Get Credit Where Credit Is Due
http://www.cardreport.com/
Credit Tools, Reference, and Forum

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 6:53 am
From: Strabo

F. George McDuffee wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:05:57 -0800, "John R. Carroll"
> <jcarroll@ubu,machiningsolution.com> wrote:
>
<snipped>
>> November fell more than 8%.
>>
> Part of the problem is that significant numbers of people have
> discovered they don't "need" more stuff, and "more stuff" is not
> making they any happier. They have also discovered that for
> walking around, a pair of walmart shoes performs exactly the same
> function as Guccis.
>

Until they melt on hot pavement.

>
>> The S&P/Case-Shiller 20-city housing index showed an 18% drop in prices in
>> October from a year earlier, while the 10-city index declined 19.1%. Prices
>> in the 20-city index have fallen more than 23% since their July 2006 peak,
>> while the 10-city index is down 25% since its top in June 2006.
>>
>> It will be 2011 before we work through the excess supply of homes,
>> especially as we are seeing more and more come onto the market because of
>> foreclosures.
>
> Not only that, but spec construction appears to be continuing in
> many areas. While it is easy to shout "whoa," it is not so easy
> to accomplish when that is the only thing your company (and you)
> know how to do. We have paid farmers not to farm for years as
> part of the agricultural price support programs, we should at
> least consider paying the contractors not to build houses.
>

Pay me and I won't post anymore.

>
>> Prices are likely to drop another 10% and about 10% of all
>> mortgages are either delinquent or in foreclosure. That's a ;ot of mortgages
>> and money in play. It's also a ;ot of wealth that has or is going to
>> dissapear. 2009 mortgage resets will provide some direct stimulus because
>> payments will drop instead of rising but the question then will be what the
>> extra money will be used for. People might just save it, or pay off debt and
>> if that's what happens the stimulus effect will be zero.
>>
>> I also don't see why anyone is encouraged by recent "jobless" reports. They
>> have dropped back to "only" 467,000 in initial unemployment claims, down
>>from 491,000 for the last week, after being over 500,000 for several weeks.
>> It wasn't that long ago that we were around 300K you know. Those numbers are
>> seasonally adjusted as you know. Whatever "hope" there might be evaporates
>> as soon as you look at the actual numbers. For the current reporting week
>> ending January 3, 2009, the advance number of initial claims came in at
>> 726,420. Last week's advance number was 717,000. We have been above 600,000
>> new initial claims every week since the third week of November. Continuing
>> claims increases by 744,000 to 5,316,124. That's huge amd not just
>> numerically. It tells you something about the usefulness of the popular set
>> of metrics used for assesing capacity. Add people who have part-time jobs
>> but would like a full-time job, and what are called marginally attached
>> workers, the current unemployment rate is already 13.5% nationwide and - I'm
>> guessing to some extent - about 20% or more in the mid west.
>>
>> Central banks around the world continue to cut their target rates but you
>> can only do so much beyond a certain point.
>
> It is dificult to reduce a rate below zero. This is where the so
> called "quantitive easing" comes into play, basically print more
> money.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing
> "Despite Japan's sustained near zero interest rates, the
> quantitative easing strategy did not succeed in stopping price
> deflation."
> http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/081210/general01.html?.v=1
>
> http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/12/15/quantitative_easing/
>
>> The distrust of banks to borrowers - even other banks - is ref;ected in the
>> large spread between LIBOR and T-Bills.
>> The M2 money supply is 60 times bank reserves, so normally when the Fed
>> gives the bank another dollar in reserves, M2 rises by $60.
>> Here is the important part - between August and November of last year, the
>> $577 billion rise in reserves resulted in $264 billion growth in M2, less
>> than one half.
>>
>> Does this clear things up for you Ed?
>> LOL
>
> Unka' George [George McDuffee]
> -------------------------------------------
> He that will not apply new remedies,
> must expect new evils:
> for Time is the greatest innovator: and
> if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
> and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
> what shall be the end?
>
> Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
> Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 7:24 am
From: EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com

In misc.survivalism Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:05:18 +0000, EskWIRED wrote:

> > In misc.survivalism Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "House prices" wasn't in the statement to which I responded nor are
> >> they a component of official inflation figures.
> >
> > Curly - your ignorance of facts colors your conclusions.

> Fuck you and your insults.

It was't an insult, it was a suggestion. Your response doesn't change the
fact that housing is one of the eight categories specifically included in
CPI.

> > Look at the BLS website. Indeed, housing is one of the eight major
> > groups of products and services that is considered when computing the
> > number.
> >
> > I can find a more precise cite if that would help you.

> I'm well aware of the real figures, not your opinion:

> * HOUSING (rent of primary residence, owners' equivalent rent, fuel
> oil, bedroom furniture)

> The closest the CPI gets to "home prices" is rent which is barely a
> correlation to a very long term moving average.

The figure you want is "owners' equivalent rent". I haven't looked into it
in detail, but likely it is some sort of opportunity cost number,
relevant to a homeowner who is choosing between staying put in his
expensive home, or selling it in order to be able to buy other stuff.

BTW, there was no need to post the irrelevant categories from the BLS
site, so I snipped them.

--
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 7:33 am
From: EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com

In misc.survivalism cavelamb <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote:

> We've been looking for a home to buy.
> Around here there are only two choices.
> 5000 square foot new construction,
> (which I can not afford)
> and 30 year old houses at 2008 pricing levels
> (which are not worth the asking price (anymore?))

My sister went through a similar search a few years ago outside DC. She
ended up buying a McMansion far far into the exurbs because that was
pretty much all that was affordable, consistent with good schools. They
use the formal living room to house their foosball table. Given that the
house has a huge Family Room, they don't need a living room. They put
their TV in the family room, so the Media Room too is underutilized.

They don't like living in the middle of nowhere, nor do they like heating
a huge house. But as you say, very little was available that met their
needs at the time. And now, their neighbors are desperate to sell, with
some homes being sold by banks for MUCH lower prices than they typical
outstanding debt.

--
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 8:42 am
From: Strabo

EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com wrote:
> In misc.survivalism cavelamb <cavelamb@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> We've been looking for a home to buy.
>> Around here there are only two choices.
>> 5000 square foot new construction,
>> (which I can not afford)
>> and 30 year old houses at 2008 pricing levels
>> (which are not worth the asking price (anymore?))
>
> My sister went through a similar search a few years ago outside DC. She
> ended up buying a McMansion far far into the exurbs because that was
> pretty much all that was affordable, consistent with good schools. They
> use the formal living room to house their foosball table. Given that the
> house has a huge Family Room, they don't need a living room. They put
> their TV in the family room, so the Media Room too is underutilized.
>
> They don't like living in the middle of nowhere, nor do they like heating
> a huge house. But as you say, very little was available that met their
> needs at the time. And now, their neighbors are desperate to sell, with
> some homes being sold by banks for MUCH lower prices than they typical
> outstanding debt.
>

And this lowers the resell value of their home. Even if they live
in the house for years it may never bring the price they paid in
adjusted dollars.

Real property market prices are being forced down to the point
of true value. The difference between this cost value and the
initial cost of the house is a permanent loss.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 9:35 am
From: EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com

In misc.survivalism Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote:
> EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com wrote:

> > My sister went through a similar search a few years ago outside DC. She
> > ended up buying a McMansion far far into the exurbs because that was
> > pretty much all that was affordable, consistent with good schools. They
> > use the formal living room to house their foosball table. Given that the
> > house has a huge Family Room, they don't need a living room. They put
> > their TV in the family room, so the Media Room too is underutilized.
> >
> > They don't like living in the middle of nowhere, nor do they like heating
> > a huge house. But as you say, very little was available that met their
> > needs at the time. And now, their neighbors are desperate to sell, with
> > some homes being sold by banks for MUCH lower prices than they typical
> > outstanding debt.
> >

> And this lowers the resell value of their home. Even if they live
> in the house for years it may never bring the price they paid in
> adjusted dollars.

Yep. A home in the same subdivision as theirs, which the owners paid over
$800k for, has been on the market for many months, priced at $500k.

They paid much less, given that they have a smaller house and a smaller
lot. I was too kind to ask what they paid and how much the home is now
worth. But my guess is that their home is worth around 50-60% of what
they paid, unless they would like to sell it more quickly than the most
desperate family in their subdivision, in which case they would have to
price it even lower.

> Real property market prices are being forced down to the point
> of true value. The difference between this cost value and the
> initial cost of the house is a permanent loss.

I doubt that they have gone that low. I predict that they will go lower.
I think that a lot of people are hanging on by their fingernails, and that
increasing numbers will bite the bullet once they see that their
neighbor's "underpriced" home has sold, while theirs is still on the
market.

--
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

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TOPIC: Credit Unions rule!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 2:02 am
From: Dan Birchall

I'm a fan of my local Credit Union for a couple non-mortgage reasons:

1. I've always gone to a bank for notary services (the local bank my
mortgage is through), but last week I wanted to get something
notarized on the way to the post office, and the credit union is
on the way, so I stopped in to see if they had a notary, and sure
enough they did... and _didn't_ charge me $5 like the bank does!

2. The credit union now has a machine like a CoinStar machine that
spits out a voucher I take to the teller to cash or deposit, and of
course as a member, I get the full value; they don't take a cut. No
more having to roll coins, yay! (I do still look at 'em all to see
if there's anything cool, like wheat sheaf pennies or state quarters
my daughter doesn't have yet. :)

--
http://ChocoLocate.com/ - The Chocolate Lovers' Page, established 1994.

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TOPIC: Ginger tea a good remedy for sore throat, cold, etc
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 4:04 am
From: Arumugham

GINGER TEA (TEA WITHOUT TEA)
Boil 500 ml of water.
Add some slices of fresh ginger root.
Reduce flame.
Cook for 10 minutes and strain.
Add honey and/or lemon juice of your choice.
Drink hot.
(Good remedy for sore throat, cold, etc.)
http://tamilhomerecipes.blogspot.com/2008/04/ginger-tea-tea-without-tea.html

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 5:18 am
From: clams_casino

Arumugham wrote:

>GINGER TEA (
>

Don't want your tea from India - much rather have cheap shoes from China.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 5:12 am
From: clams_casino

brainzz@hotmail.com wrote:

>Hello, my name is Brian Please feel free to get ahold of
>me with any questions.
>

My only question is why do you believe it's acceptable practice to spam
newsgroups?

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 5:59 am
From: OldRoads

You don't need to shell out big bucks taking your kids to an amusement
park or water park, etc.
There are plenty of other free things to do:

- Take a hike
- Ride your bicycles on the local Rail Trail http://www.trails.com/activities.aspx?area=12399
- Go fishing
- Go to the beach
- Go camping

Other ideas??

Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles
http://OldRoads.com

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 6:13 am
From: "John A. Weeks III"

In article
<28296588-94c1-47f8-9cb3-1a9094f1f29e@o40g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
OldRoads <oldroads@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You don't need to shell out big bucks taking your kids to an amusement
> park or water park, etc.
> There are plenty of other free things to do:
>
> - Take a hike
> - Ride your bicycles on the local Rail Trail
> http://www.trails.com/activities.aspx?area=12399
> - Go fishing
> - Go to the beach
> - Go camping
>
> Other ideas??

Look for the cheap days at your local cultural attractions.
For example, when I lived in Chicago, one day of the week
(was it Tuesday or Thrusday?) the zoos and all the major
museums were free.

-john-

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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 6:33 am
From: George

OldRoads wrote:
> You don't need to shell out big bucks taking your kids to an amusement
> park or water park, etc.
> There are plenty of other free things to do:
>
> - Take a hike
> - Ride your bicycles on the local Rail Trail http://www.trails.com/activities.aspx?area=12399
> - Go fishing
> - Go to the beach
> - Go camping
>
> Other ideas??
>
> Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles
> http://OldRoads.com
>
>
Use this to locate rail trails without a subscription fee as required in
the other site:

http://www.traillink.com/

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 9:21 am
From: Stray Dog

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, OldRoads wrote:

> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:59:55 -0800 (PST)
> From: OldRoads <oldroads@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: misc.consumers.frugal-living
> Subject: Cheap things to do with your kids
>
> You don't need to shell out big bucks taking your kids to an amusement
> park or water park, etc.
> There are plenty of other free things to do:
>
> - Take a hike
> - Ride your bicycles on the local Rail Trail http://www.trails.com/activities.aspx?area=12399
> - Go fishing
> - Go to the beach
> - Go camping
>
> Other ideas??

Your local public library should be free. Read anything there, or borrow
whatever can be borrowed, check out the bulletin boards, and free
brochures on all kinds of things, activities.

Many have booksales, where you can buy "discards" and donated books,
usually for a buck each.

Check out book sales (www.booksalefinder.com, and others) for very cheap
used books.

Visit thrift stores (Salvation Army, Goodwill, etc). Not much techie
stuff, but clothes are cheap, books there are cheap, too.

There are also books to help you live cheap: "Tightwad Gazette" for
example, and also books on many things to do that cost little or zero.

I love to read books. I concentrate on non-fiction, where I am learning
something -- usually -- practical.

Throw out the TV. It just makes zombies out of your brain.

Try to write poetry. You might get better at it, the more you try.

In ancient times, from ancient history books, people did sing songs, too,
for entertainment.

> Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles
> http://OldRoads.com
>
>
>

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 7:43 am
From: itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net

I saw this site on this group and REGISTERED, chose my coupons and
have $3.57 in coupons and ready to check out. I continually get a
message "in order to perform your checkout your order must be at least
$3.00." What am I doing wrong????? GRRRRRR

I am at work so leaving them a message to contact me at my home e-mail
address is not possible as we are blocked from checking home e-mail.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 8:13 am
From: "JonquilJan"

That $3.57 includes postage and the handling fee. Your COUPON total must be
at least $3.00. Increase the number of coupons for a few of your selections
and it should go through

I have dealt with them for years and have no problems.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying
<itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:0a930595-ee21-4900-bee6-dc2f7db3859d@h20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> I saw this site on this group and REGISTERED, chose my coupons and
> have $3.57 in coupons and ready to check out. I continually get a
> message "in order to perform your checkout your order must be at least
> $3.00." What am I doing wrong????? GRRRRRR
>
> I am at work so leaving them a message to contact me at my home e-mail
> address is not possible as we are blocked from checking home e-mail.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 8:52 am
From: itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net

On Jan 12, 10:13 am, "JonquilJan" <war...@imcnet.net> wrote:
> That $3.57 includes postage and the handling fee. Your COUPON total must be
> at least $3.00. Increase the number of coupons for a few of your selections
> and it should go through
>
> I have dealt with them for years and have no problems.
>
> JonquilJan
>
> Learn something new every day
> As long as you are learning, you are living
> When you stop learning, you start dying<itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> news:0a930595-ee21-4900-bee6-dc2f7db3859d@h20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I saw this site on this group and REGISTERED, chose my coupons and
> > have $3.57 in coupons and ready to check out. I continually get a
> > message "in order to perform your checkout your order must be at least
> > $3.00." What am I doing wrong????? GRRRRRR
>
> > I am at work so leaving them a message to contact me at my home e-mail
> > address is not possible as we are blocked from checking home e-mail.- Hide quoted text -
>
>
Oh phooey, I think I've found out my problem.

:-/

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 9:28 am
From: Stray Dog

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote:

> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:43:53 -0800 (PST)
> From: itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net
> Newsgroups: misc.consumers.frugal-living
> Subject: Couponclippers.com?
>
> I saw this site on this group and REGISTERED, chose my coupons and
> have $3.57 in coupons and ready to check out. I continually get a
> message "in order to perform your checkout your order must be at least
> $3.00." What am I doing wrong????? GRRRRRR
>
> I am at work so leaving them a message to contact me at my home e-mail
> address is not possible as we are blocked from checking home e-mail.
>

Your local newspapers should have coupons, too.

My wife has perfected the "coupon racket" to the point that she saves us
$50-100 a month on food bills. once she went into the grocery story, came
out with a bag of stuff and more money than when she walked in (when they
"double" or "triple" coupons, sometimes the result is more than the price
of the stuff, so you get money back).

Also, remember that when you get the Sunday papers, they are full of
coupons, too. Sit in the car and look through what they are selling at X%
off. If you need it, then go back into the store and buy one or two more
copies of the same newspaper to get extra coupons that will save you more
than the price of the paper.

ACE hardware (in my area) gives out calendars at the beginning of the
year. Inside the calendar are coupons. Some of them are for _any_
purchase, $5 off any purchase over $25. I pick up more than one copy of
the calendar and snip off all the coupons that are unrestricted. Good for
things you really need: light bulbs, bug spray, garbage bags, etc.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 12 2009 9:35 am
From: tweeny90655@mypacks.net

On Jan 12, 12:28 pm, Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> My wife has perfected the "coupon racket" to the point that she saves us
> $50-100 a month on food bills.

But, how much DO you spend on food in a month, and how many mouths are
you feeding? And how much of that couponed stuff is just junk?

once she went into the grocery story, came
> out with a bag of stuff and more money than when she walked in (when they
> "double" or "triple" coupons,

I'd like to know where these doubling and tripling store are located.
None in MY area, for sure.

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