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TOPIC: Tempur-pedic mattresses
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Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 9:38 pm
From: "Evelyn"
"Goomba" <Goomba38@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> JR Weiss wrote:
>
>> I've had one for about 3 years now. My wife & I both like it a lot.
>> Motion is not transmitted across the mattress like with innerspring
>> types, and it remains very comfortable with no sign of sagging.
>>
>> I don't know the current pricing. More regular and discount mattress
>> stores are carrying them now, so you should be able to get some good
>> deals. Of the 3 price levels of the Tempurpedic that were available when
>> we bought, the middle one suited us best.
>>
>> Don't know about your interpretation of the warranty... I don't recall
>> anything like that.
>>
> I've had mine about five years and my back feels much better since! I also
> have the feature that allows you to adjust its positions, which is nice
> like now-sitting in bed with the laptop while watching TV. Mine is a king
> sized, and cost just under 5K.
I have had mine for 8 years and love it. It is excellent in several ways.
It is hypo-allergenic, impervious to water, insects (like mites) or sagging.
It is as flat today as the day I got it. The adjustable feature is
wonderful, and I can tilt the back or knees to any position I find
comfortable. Mine is a queen size and I paid $2500. Considering what I
paid for other mattresses in the past and how saggy they got in a short
time, this was actually a very frugal choice.
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Best Regards,
Evelyn
Rest in a sky-like mind.
Sit like a mountain floating on the earth.
Breathe like the wind circling the world
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TOPIC: Where do you get your best buys in cat food?
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Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 9:43 pm
From: "Evelyn"
"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>h wrote:
>
>> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Kirkland dry cat food from Costco was not only one of the least
>>> expensive foods, it was one of the best ones. For the cats with medical
>>> issues we sometimes had to buy special foods from the vet, but this was
>>> rare.
>>
>> Obviously price is a factor for rescue organizations, but dry cat food is
>> very high carb and should only be fed to cats occasionally as a treat. My
>> spoiled indoor cats love it, but the three of them only get one tiny bowl
>> once a week, or else they gain weight. My vet says that the only carbs
>> cats need can be found in the stomach of a mouse. The mouse-carbs are
>> probably why my furballs are good indoor mousers!
>
> My daughter's cats and mini-dachshund have eaten dry food (probably
> Kirkland) all their lives. She fills up one of those feeders that holds a
> gallon or so whenever it's enpty. The animals are healthy, but the dog
> has a bit of extra weight due to shared snacks with the grandspawn.
>
> This goes against everything I've ever heard about dog-feeding --
> "No matter how much you give them they'll eat it all RIGHT NOW". The dog
> nibbles just like the cats. She'd be happy as a vegetarian and loves
> carrots, fruit, broccoli, peanut butter...
>
> I've also understood that the "affection" shown by cats is just marking
> the producer of the food as theirs. Since these cats are fed by some
> miraculous ever-generous invisible god, any friendliness would seem to be
> genuine. 3 of the cats are extremely friendly and one is kind of shy, but
> eventually warms up.
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev
> While in high school, we were encouraged to keep a daily journal.
> I never liked it, especially when early on I realized that anybody
> could find it and read it. Fortunately, the jury never saw it.
> --Horvath@Horvath.net
Our cats (3) get one can in the morning which they share, and another can in
the evening which they also share. The rest of the time they eat very good
quality dry food, as much as they want. I have been buying science diet
indoor cat for them which is not cheap. I have heard all that about not
feeding them dry food, but if I only fed them cans I would go broke. They
catch mice and birds and chipmunks and moles outside for fun and snack food.
All three are healthy and happy with silky shiny fur and bright eyes and no
problems. In fact I'd like to get these cats jobs and send them out to
work!!!!!
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Best Regards,
Evelyn
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Sit like a mountain floating on the earth.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 13 2009 10:16 pm
From: Strabo
Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:48:08 -0500, Strabo wrote:
>
>> EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com wrote:
>>> In misc.survivalism Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net> wrote:
>>>> EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com wrote:
>>>>> My sister went through a similar search a few years ago outside DC.
>>>>> She ended up buying a McMansion far far into the exurbs because that
>>>>> was pretty much all that was affordable, consistent with good
>>>>> schools. They use the formal living room to house their foosball
>>>>> table. Given that the house has a huge Family Room, they don't need
>>>>> a living room. They put their TV in the family room, so the Media
>>>>> Room too is underutilized.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't like living in the middle of nowhere, nor do they like
>>>>> heating a huge house. But as you say, very little was available that
>>>>> met their needs at the time. And now, their neighbors are desperate
>>>>> to sell, with some homes being sold by banks for MUCH lower prices
>>>>> than they typical outstanding debt.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> And this lowers the resell value of their home. Even if they live in
>>>> the house for years it may never bring the price they paid in adjusted
>>>> dollars.
>>> Yep. A home in the same subdivision as theirs, which the owners paid
>>> over $800k for, has been on the market for many months, priced at
>>> $500k.
>>>
>>> They paid much less, given that they have a smaller house and a smaller
>>> lot. I was too kind to ask what they paid and how much the home is now
>>> worth. But my guess is that their home is worth around 50-60% of what
>>> they paid, unless they would like to sell it more quickly than the most
>>> desperate family in their subdivision, in which case they would have to
>>> price it even lower.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Real property market prices are being forced down to the point of true
>>>> value. The difference between this cost value and the initial cost of
>>>> the house is a permanent loss.
>>> I doubt that they have gone that low. I predict that they will go
>>> lower. I think that a lot of people are hanging on by their
>>> fingernails, and that increasing numbers will bite the bullet once they
>>> see that their neighbor's "underpriced" home has sold, while theirs is
>>> still on the market.
>>>
>>>
>> Over the next five years or so, every asset, everything of value on the
>> planet, will be assessed and revalued. In monetary terms some of these
>> will go up while most will go down.
>
> True but the mechanism is more complex, we must figure in inflation/
> deflation.
>
> At the moment I cannot tell whether we're in for one, the other, or a
> weird mix of the two.
>
Of course you can't tell because we're in the process of a total
revaluation, of everything.
>
> You said "value" which is a better indicator and
> independent of the dollar.
>
I define value as the determination of worth. At its basis,
the value of something is the *amount of energy one is willing
to expend* toward attaining it.
"I will exert two hours labor (worth) in mowing your lawn for
$N OR a glass of milk and a sandwich of ham and lettuce on
rye (value)."
The $N then represents a value equal to the meal in the eyes of
the laborer.
When two laborers assign a similar valuation then we have a trend.
When two thousand laborers assign a similar valuation then we have
stability.
If I accept the $N then I am a capitalist and may later convert
this and apply it to another thing of value.
>
> I expect the value of homes to continue a slide for years to come.
> Another 6-24 months at the current pace then a slowing which could
> continue for a decade or more. That doesn't mean the dollar price will
> decline, in fact (with inflation), home prices could rise dramatically.
>
But temporarily since an inflated dollar represents false value.
The last period of stable and *relatively* uninflated costs was the
1960s. This means that a modest house built in 1960 sold then for about
$7000. A similar house at the peak of the housing bubble in 2003 would
have brought about $150,000. Today the cost is perhaps down to
$120,000. I expect it to be maybe $80,000 in 2013. Of course salaries
and the general cost of living will fall as well.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 14 2009 12:04 am
From: Curly Surmudgeon
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:57:13 +0000, EskWIRED wrote:
> In misc.survivalism Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:13:16 +0000, EskWIRED wrote:
>
>> > In misc.survivalism Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon@live.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> > You are correct that the raw median average house prices are
>> >> >> > not reflected in CPI. I misundersood the reference to house
>> >> >> > prices, and took it to mean housing prices.
>> >> >
>> >> >> Neither are "housing prices" part of the CPI:
>> >> >
>> >> > You need to look more closely.
>> >
>> >> Despite all your insults and denials you've not provided a single
>> >> cite as promised. You _have_ contradicted, and snipped, the
>> >> evidence proving you wrong.
>> >
>> > Is this why you need to have settled issues remain in the posts? Are
>> > you making some kind of semantic arguement?
>
>> I disproved your insult and assertion yet you still engage in denial.
>> As long as you continue to open your lawyer-mouth evading that you were
>> wrong on all counts I'm going to continue shoving this down your
>> throat.
>
> WTF? Did you look below? Do you need this spoon fed to you? You
> yourself posted that CPI includes "Housing (rent of primary residence,
> owner's equivalent rent, fuel oil, bedroom furniture)"
Your constant snipping and evasion is morphing the issue.
Curly Surmudgeon:
"House prices" wasn't in the statement to which I responded nor are they
a component of official inflation figures.
EskWIRED:
Curly - your ignorance of facts colors your conclusions. Look at the BLS
website. Indeed, housing is one of the eight major groups of products and
services that is considered when computing the number.
"House prices" are _not_ in the CPI:
"The CPI does not include investment items, such as stocks, bonds, real
estate, and life insurance."
http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpifaq.htm#Question_1
Yet you keep snipping the proof of your invalid, malicious, attack.
So, again, Fuck You and the judge you rode in on.
> You knew that there was such a category. Why are you denying that
> housing costs are part of CPI? Is tis some kind of quibble about their
> statistical methods?
I said what I meant and it is accurate. You attacked that correct
statement with personal invective. Fuck you.
> Again - are you making a semantic arguement? Is there some slight
> wording difference between what you have in mind and the Housing
> component of CPI? If not, WTF are you going on about?
Again, Fuck You. Cease the evasion and snipping to hide your fuckup.
>> > You yourself posted the eight categoreis, and I snipped all but the
>> > housing costs category. The Housing Index is Series No. CUUR0000SAH.
>
>
>
>> Shut your festering globule, you tit!
>
> Gobutit. It's British. You're getting to be very entertaining.
You're an asshole lawyer. But I repeat myself, not a very good lawyer at
that.
--
Regards, Curly
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