Frugal Living: misc.consumers.frugal-living - 19 new messages in 8 topics

Friday, June 4, 2010

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TOPIC: Freezer question, your experience.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6c40f512af1456d1?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 12:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Vic Smith wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Ohioguy wrote

>>> I greatly prefer the convenience of an upright freezer
>>> - it just seems easier to access everything inside.

>> Yeah, me too.

>>> In fact, I'd hazard a guess that since you don't have to take as much
>>> time to lift things out of the freezer and out of the way to get things
>>> that are underneath, an upright could very well actually save money.

>> I doubt it. There is so much mass of frozen stuff in a
>> freezer that I doubt the effect of a bit longer with the lid
>> open in a chest freezer is even measurable efficiency wise.

>>> This is especially true if you bother to put something like a dry erase chalkboard on the front.

>> I have a proper database and a laptop in the kitchen.

> So you say. Oracle based SAP "Cooking" module I suppose.

Guess again.

>>> When you stock it up with things, mark them on the board.
>>> Then dry erase them when you get them out. It will give
>>> you an instant, visual reference.

>> A database is much better, mine has hundreds of items in it
>> with a date on each and when I use something, it auto pops
>> up the recipie and auto sets the alarm timers for the times
>> in the recipie. Works very elegantly indeed for the more
>> complex stuff like roast lamb and baked potatoes etc.

> Database, eh?

Yep.

> What you've said is utterly stupid.

You shouldnt be so hard on yourself.

> Only a truly lame nerd would so complicate keeping food and cooking up a meal.

Nothing complicated about it, fool.

> And no revenge for you either, nerd.
> Trouble cooking lamb and spuds, eh?

Nope, just convenient to have the various timers involved happen completely auto, fuckwit.

> Elegant? You hammering a keyboard

Dont use the keyboard at all, fuckwit.

> in an attempt to first find, then figure how to cook lamb and spuds

Dont do that either, fuckwit.

> "elegant?" Think again.

Something you cant manage. Ear to ear dog shit cant do anything like that.

> Just shows the complete and utter stupidity of a man without
> a wife, who would do all that in a trice and without a thought
> while handling a few other chores at the same time.

And costs a hell of a lot more than the laptop, fuckwit.

> Bet your computer generated food is horrible too.

Guess which pathetic little pollack fuckwit has just gone face down in the mud, yet again ?

> But I'm sure you're convinced it's great stuff.

Leaves the shit you get stuck with for dead.

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 1:52 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Rod Speed wrote
> Vic Smith wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Ohioguy wrote

>>>> I greatly prefer the convenience of an upright freezer
>>>> - it just seems easier to access everything inside.

>>> Yeah, me too.

>>>> In fact, I'd hazard a guess that since you don't have to take as much time to lift things out of the freezer and
>>>> out of the way to get things that are underneath, an upright could very well actually save money.

>>> I doubt it. There is so much mass of frozen stuff in a
>>> freezer that I doubt the effect of a bit longer with the lid
>>> open in a chest freezer is even measurable efficiency wise.

>>>> This is especially true if you bother to put something like a dry erase chalkboard on the front.

>>> I have a proper database and a laptop in the kitchen.

>> So you say. Oracle based SAP "Cooking" module I suppose.

> Guess again.

>>>> When you stock it up with things, mark them on the board.
>>>> Then dry erase them when you get them out. It will give
>>>> you an instant, visual reference.

>>> A database is much better, mine has hundreds of items in it
>>> with a date on each and when I use something, it auto pops
>>> up the recipie and auto sets the alarm timers for the times
>>> in the recipie. Works very elegantly indeed for the more
>>> complex stuff like roast lamb and baked potatoes etc.

>> Database, eh?

> Yep.

>> What you've said is utterly stupid.

> You shouldnt be so hard on yourself.

>> Only a truly lame nerd would so complicate keeping food and cooking up a meal.

> Nothing complicated about it, fool.

>> And no revenge for you either, nerd.
>> Trouble cooking lamb and spuds, eh?

> Nope, just convenient to have the various timers involved happen completely auto, fuckwit.

There is quite a bit that benefits from a proper scheduled system.

The start time depends on the weight of the leg of lamb, because
the cooking time varys with the weight and you normally want to
have it ready to eat at a particular time. So its handy to just punch
in the weight and have the system remind you when to start the leg.

Then its handy to have it tell you when to boost the oven temp and
start the roast potatoes. And when the pototoes need to be turned.
And when its time to start the peas and corn and gravy.

You're so stupid that you cant grasp that its convenient
to automate those reminders ? Your problem.

>> Elegant? You hammering a keyboard

> Dont use the keyboard at all, fuckwit.

>> in an attempt to first find, then figure how to cook lamb and spuds

> Dont do that either, fuckwit.

>> "elegant?" Think again.

> Something you cant manage. Ear to ear dog shit cant do anything like that.

>> Just shows the complete and utter stupidity of a man without
>> a wife, who would do all that in a trice and without a thought
>> while handling a few other chores at the same time.

> And costs a hell of a lot more than the laptop, fuckwit.

>> Bet your computer generated food is horrible too.

> Guess which pathetic little pollack fuckwit has just gone face down in the mud, yet again ?

>> But I'm sure you're convinced it's great stuff.

> Leaves the shit you get stuck with for dead.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 2:45 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 06/03/10 06:06, h wrote:

>> You're right. If I ever buy a freezer (possibly around the time that it
>> will no longer be needed because hell has frozen over) I'll get an
>> upright. You can stack LOTS of crap on an upright...
>
> I guess I need to get more crap. I have tons of wasted horizontal space and
> nothing with which to fill it.

Where are you located? I can loan you all you need.

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Cheers, Bev
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"We're so far beyond fucked we couldn't even catch a bus
back to fucked." --Scott en Aztlan

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 2:49 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 06/03/10 11:12, Vic Smith wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 03:44:22 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> A database is much better, mine has hundreds of items in it with a date on
>> each and when I use something, it auto pops up the recipie and auto sets
>> the alarm timers for the times in the recipie. Works very elegantly indeed
>> for the more complex stuff like roast lamb and baked potatoes etc.
>
> Database, eh? What you've said is utterly stupid. Only a truly lame nerd
> would so complicate keeping food and cooking up a meal. And no revenge for
> you either, nerd. Trouble cooking lamb and spuds, eh? Elegant? You
> hammering a keyboard in an attempt to first find, then figure how to cook
> lamb and spuds "elegant?" Think again. Just shows the complete and utter
> stupidity of a man without a wife, who would do all that in a trice and
> without a thought while handling a few other chores at the same time. Bet
> your computer generated food is horrible too. But I'm sure you're convinced
> it's great stuff.

RFID technology has come a long way. Perhaps labeling each package with one
would make keeping track of the inventory a lot easier.

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Cheers, Bev
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If you're ever about to be mugged by a couple
of clowns, don't hesitate - go for the juggler.

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 3:06 pm
From: Vic Smith

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:52:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Rod Speed wrote

>
>> Nope, just convenient to have the various timers involved happen completely auto, fuckwit.
>
>There is quite a bit that benefits from a proper scheduled system.
>
>The start time depends on the weight of the leg of lamb, because
>the cooking time varys with the weight and you normally want to
>have it ready to eat at a particular time. So its handy to just punch
>in the weight and have the system remind you when to start the leg.
>
>Then its handy to have it tell you when to boost the oven temp and
>start the roast potatoes. And when the pototoes need to be turned.
>And when its time to start the peas and corn and gravy.
>

Answering yourself as you dig toward China, eh?
Making it up as you go along.
The rest of your nonsense tossed in the disposal where your
computer-aided food should go before it affronts a human nose.
Computer telling you when to turn potatoes. For Christ's sake.
I suppose that computer's teeth tells you when pasta is al dente too.
What a non-cooking nerd you are. Don't try to deny it.
Stick to throwing a shrimp on the barbie so you just screw up a good
shrimp now and then.

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 3:45 pm
From: Vic Smith

On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:49:43 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 06/03/10 11:12, Vic Smith wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 03:44:22 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A database is much better, mine has hundreds of items in it with a date on
>>> each and when I use something, it auto pops up the recipie and auto sets
>>> the alarm timers for the times in the recipie. Works very elegantly indeed
>>> for the more complex stuff like roast lamb and baked potatoes etc.
>>
>> Database, eh? What you've said is utterly stupid. Only a truly lame nerd
>> would so complicate keeping food and cooking up a meal. And no revenge for
>> you either, nerd. Trouble cooking lamb and spuds, eh? Elegant? You
>> hammering a keyboard in an attempt to first find, then figure how to cook
>> lamb and spuds "elegant?" Think again. Just shows the complete and utter
>> stupidity of a man without a wife, who would do all that in a trice and
>> without a thought while handling a few other chores at the same time. Bet
>> your computer generated food is horrible too. But I'm sure you're convinced
>> it's great stuff.
>
>RFID technology has come a long way. Perhaps labeling each package with one
>would make keeping track of the inventory a lot easier.

Maybe for Rod. I don't need a computer to keep track of and cook my
food. My wife does that with her smart head.
Doubt the average consumer would want to pay for his stupidity either.
Of course he'll weigh in with his own face-saving BS, and maybe
mention his computerized shopping list.
My wife is the chef in a corporate cafeteria feeding 2-300 entrees
each day with always changing menus, and finds it trivial to keep
track of the food with simple penned sticker labeling.
If Rod wasn't so addled he'd figure out how to do that for his
lonesome.
But he's not a cook, just a computer fanatic, so I give him a pass.
There's always somebody who wants to "improve" things by making them
500% more costly to gain a 30% loss in efficiency.
But it's amusing to hear how the computer prepares a meal for him.
You're a dangerous thinker. I'll warn my wife to look out for their
suppliers to push RFID chips and readers. Proprietary readers no
doubt. It could happen. But they could only justify it as preventing
waste by not letting food expire, which is already prevented by
rotation at her place.

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 4:10 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Vic Smith wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Nope, just convenient to have the various timers involved happen completely auto, fuckwit.

>> There is quite a bit that benefits from a proper scheduled system.

>> The start time depends on the weight of the leg of lamb, because
>> the cooking time varys with the weight and you normally want to
>> have it ready to eat at a particular time. So its handy to just punch
>> in the weight and have the system remind you when to start the leg.

>> Then its handy to have it tell you when to boost the oven temp and
>> start the roast potatoes. And when the pototoes need to be turned.
>> And when its time to start the peas and corn and gravy.

>> You're so stupid that you cant grasp that its convenient
>> to automate those reminders ? Your problem.

> Answering yourself as you dig toward China, eh?
> Making it up as you go along.

You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

Just another fuckwit pollack with ear to ear dog shit.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 4:12 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Vic Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:49:43 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 06/03/10 11:12, Vic Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 03:44:22 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A database is much better, mine has hundreds of items in it with a
>>>> date on each and when I use something, it auto pops up the recipie
>>>> and auto sets the alarm timers for the times in the recipie. Works
>>>> very elegantly indeed for the more complex stuff like roast lamb
>>>> and baked potatoes etc.
>>>
>>> Database, eh? What you've said is utterly stupid. Only a truly
>>> lame nerd would so complicate keeping food and cooking up a meal.
>>> And no revenge for you either, nerd. Trouble cooking lamb and
>>> spuds, eh? Elegant? You hammering a keyboard in an attempt to
>>> first find, then figure how to cook lamb and spuds "elegant?" Think
>>> again. Just shows the complete and utter stupidity of a man without
>>> a wife, who would do all that in a trice and without a thought
>>> while handling a few other chores at the same time. Bet your
>>> computer generated food is horrible too. But I'm sure you're
>>> convinced it's great stuff.
>>
>> RFID technology has come a long way. Perhaps labeling each package
>> with one would make keeping track of the inventory a lot easier.
>
> Maybe for Rod. I don't need a computer to keep track of and cook my
> food. My wife does that with her smart head.
> Doubt the average consumer would want to pay for his stupidity either.
> Of course he'll weigh in with his own face-saving BS, and maybe
> mention his computerized shopping list.
> My wife is the chef in a corporate cafeteria feeding 2-300 entrees
> each day with always changing menus, and finds it trivial to keep
> track of the food with simple penned sticker labeling.
> If Rod wasn't so addled he'd figure out how to do that for his
> lonesome.
> But he's not a cook, just a computer fanatic, so I give him a pass.
> There's always somebody who wants to "improve" things by making them
> 500% more costly to gain a 30% loss in efficiency.

Your fuckwit 'wife' costs a hell of a lot more than the laptop, fuckwit.

> But it's amusing to hear how the computer prepares a meal for him.
> You're a dangerous thinker. I'll warn my wife to look out for their
> suppliers to push RFID chips and readers. Proprietary readers no
> doubt. It could happen. But they could only justify it as preventing
> waste by not letting food expire, which is already prevented by
> rotation at her place.

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 4:23 pm
From: "h"

"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hu97pu$ofo$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 06/03/10 06:06, h wrote:
>
>>> You're right. If I ever buy a freezer (possibly around the time that it
>>> will no longer be needed because hell has frozen over) I'll get an
>>> upright. You can stack LOTS of crap on an upright...
>>
>> I guess I need to get more crap. I have tons of wasted horizontal space
>> and
>> nothing with which to fill it.
>
> Where are you located? I can loan you all you need.
>

Heh. Both DH and I work at home, and between the shared office, my
workspace, and the 3 cats molting in the heat, I have all the crap I can
handle :)
It helps that I've had the "do you love it, need it, or does it make you
money" theory on all possessions for many, many years. If I can't answer
with at least one "yes", out it goes. At least once a year we have a car
full of stuff to cart off to the Salvie. I didn't even know other people
used this concept until I watched an episode of "Hoarders" on tv.
Apparently, that's the motto of the professional organizer. Who knew? My
feeling is just because I have space for it doesn't mean I need to keep it.

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Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 2:39 pm
From: MikeStinson

Has anyone here been denied Medicare test reimbursements that were
necessary to their health like I have? What is the best strategy for
mounting a claim defense against these denials. They gave no reason, just
DENIED!. Looking for either answers to the question or resource urls to
find the answer. Thanks.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 3:36 pm
From: tripletask@gmail..com

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:29:57 -0700 (PDT), "Kennewick Man; the first,
the BEST!" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote:

>Report for work details for infrastructure repairs throughout the U.S.
>within 30 days, or be cut off from welfare completely.

Not old Uncle Suckemoff, too much of pussy. Cannot even
defend our borders.

cole

p.s Any pregnancies while on welfare means an abortion.
Give them a $1,000.00 bonus for submitting to sterilization.

cole

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TOPIC: my first cruise
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 4:26 pm
From: MAS

On 6/3/2010 11:19 AM, Ohioguy wrote:
> My wife and I are going to go on a cruise in early October. This will
> be the first time in several years that we will get a full week off from
> our kids to go off and do something.
>
> I'm interested in magic shows, buffets, and quiet so that I can get some
> reading done.
>
> Was wondering if anyone had suggestions on:
>
> A) how to keep total costs down (I've heard that large amounts of
> tipping are expected, or even required on most cruise lines for
> just about everything)
>
> B) whether one cruise line is pretty much like another
>
>
>
> I've been looking at available trips on cruisecheap.com, but they don't
> come with the required airfare. Would I be better off looking for a
> local travel agent who can set everything up, or would that actually
> increase the likelihood of losing out on a really good deal?
>
> Thanks!

Try posting to rec.travel.cruises. You'll get good advice.

Marsha

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 4:44 pm
From: "Lou"

"Ohioguy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
news:_KPNn.21405$7d5.12905@newsfe17.iad...
> My wife and I are going to go on a cruise in early October. This
> will be the first time in several years that we will get a full week off
> from our kids to go off and do something.
>
> I'm interested in magic shows, buffets, and quiet so that I can get
> some reading done.
>
> Was wondering if anyone had suggestions on:
>
> A) how to keep total costs down (I've heard that large amounts of
> tipping are expected, or even required on most cruise lines for
> just about everything)
>
> B) whether one cruise line is pretty much like another
>
>
>
> I've been looking at available trips on cruisecheap.com, but they
> don't come with the required airfare. Would I be better off looking for
> a local travel agent who can set everything up, or would that actually
> increase the likelihood of losing out on a really good deal?

It's been years since we went on a cruise, so my experience is probably
dated. But in those days, tipping was expected (not actually required -
they didn't make you walk the plank if you didn't). The help like your
cabin steward, the waitpeople in the dining room, didn't get paid by the
cruise line, their only pay was tips. People generally tipped on the last
night - you'd hand over an envelope with your tip in it. The cruise line
advised of "recommended" amounts - as I recall they weren't outrageous. As
I recall, our tipping was pretty much confined to three people - the cabin
steward, the dining room waiter, and the busboy. Neither of us are big
drinkers, we didn't buy any alcohol on the ship, so didn't deal with people
like bartenders or waitstaff in the bars aboard ship. We did bring a bottle
with us to have a drink before dinner in our cabin.

Again in those days, the best package deals were available through travel
agents. I don't see how it could hurt to visit a couple local agents and
seeing what they can offer. If you're really flexible, you could cruise
"standby" - a ship will have a few accommodations unsold and with 24 hour
notice, you could end up paying a rock bottom price.

Cruises have different itineraries and therefore different ports of call.
Different ports have different shore excursions available, and of course the
prices for various excursions varied all over the place.

Cruise lines also varied as to their target market - some specialize in a
young crowd that tends to party all night, others to a more mature set, and
sometimes there are special interest cruises - singles, astronomy buffs,
whatever.

A nice cabin is, well, nice, but you probably won't spend a lot of time in
the cabin, so maybe you can trim a corner or two by opting for a cheaper
cabin.

Entertainment on board was mostly no extra cost - games by the pool, stuff
like bingo and "horse racing" (those were pay to play), movies, a show every
night the ship wasn't in port, dancing, and mountains of food available just
about 24 hours a day. There were two seatings for meals and shows - from my
limited experience, I'd advise opting for the second seating, it was a
little less crowded, especially for the after dinner show in the theater.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 5:27 pm
From: "Bob F"

Ohioguy wrote:
> My wife and I are going to go on a cruise in early October. This
> will be the first time in several years that we will get a full week
> off from our kids to go off and do something.
>
> I'm interested in magic shows, buffets, and quiet so that I can get
> some reading done.
>
> Was wondering if anyone had suggestions on:
>
> A) how to keep total costs down (I've heard that large amounts of
> tipping are expected, or even required on most cruise lines for
> just about everything)
>
> B) whether one cruise line is pretty much like another
>
>
>
> I've been looking at available trips on cruisecheap.com, but they
> don't come with the required airfare. Would I be better off looking
> for a local travel agent who can set everything up, or would that
> actually increase the likelihood of losing out on a really good deal?
>

My neighbor that goes on cruises regularly swears by his local agent.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 4:47 pm
From: Max

On Jun 3, 11:49 am, money mania <texaspes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Simple hack to get $500 to your home
>
> Due to high security risks,i have hidden the cheque link in an
> image. in that website on left side below search box, click on image
> and enter your name and address where you want to receive your
> cheque.please dont tell to anyone.

But whoever you tell, tell them not to tell anyone.
Shhhh.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 5:50 pm
From: tripletask@gmail..com

On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:40:56 -0500, Day Brown <dayhbrown@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 05/30/2010 02:42 PM, greg wrote:
>> I got friends who for years applied for a jobs with the Governement.
>> And these Guys were all with master degrees and experience.
>> No jobs for them, an Indian or a Russian Jew get the job faster.
>> That�s why we pay taxes.
>> This country is a joke.
>As in most things, you havta give them an opportunity to fuck it up
>before you call in the right white guys to fix it.
>
>If what you want is to restore the kind of state's rights the
>Constitution had in mind, then you havta wait for the corruption and
>incompetence of the feds to cause collapse, and then live in one of the
>few states that can competently manage their own resources.

And don't forget $74K average federal salary.

cole
>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 11:40 pm
From: Day Brown

On 06/03/2010 07:50 PM, tripletask@gmail..com wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:40:56 -0500, Day Brown<dayhbrown@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 05/30/2010 02:42 PM, greg wrote:
>>> I got friends who for years applied for a jobs with the Governement.
>>> And these Guys were all with master degrees and experience.
>>> No jobs for them, an Indian or a Russian Jew get the job faster.
>>> That�s why we pay taxes.
>>> This country is a joke.
>> As in most things, you havta give them an opportunity to fuck it up
>> before you call in the right white guys to fix it.
>>
>> If what you want is to restore the kind of state's rights the
>> Constitution had in mind, then you havta wait for the corruption and
>> incompetence of the feds to cause collapse, and then live in one of the
>> few states that can competently manage their own resources.
>
> And don't forget $74K average federal salary.
the salary is not part of their own resources.

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TOPIC: What the Christians don't know makes them fat and stupid
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 6:23 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

Christian sheep are OK with it but advertising to children is
restricted in Scandinavia because... hey, this is just common sense,
they make consumers out of kids who also grow fat and stupid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO99_2EGlv0&NR=1

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TOPIC: Yet another spam source
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 3 2010 8:57 pm
From: The Real Bev

I've recently gotten spam text messages on my pre-paid T-Mobile account, which
cost me a nickel each. Outrageous. I phoned tech support. The first guy was
barely able to speak English and hung up on me after 4 minutes. The second guy
was OK and set my account up so that I would NOT receive marketing messages.

What a crappy system. You're assumed to WANT to pay for spam unless you call
and tell them different.

I shouldn't complain, though. It costs me $10/year now and I'll probably never
use up my minutes. Still...

--
Cheers, Bev
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You need only three tools: WD-40, duct tape and a hammer. If it doesn't
move and it should, use WD-40. If it moves and shouldn't, use duct tape.
If you can't fix it with a hammer you've got an electrical problem.

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