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TOPIC: Black+white caterpillars are poisonous
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3948414fa5978d43?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 12 2011 11:32 pm
From: ultimauw@NOSPAMlive@.com (zeez JosephineJoseph rules)
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/insects/tussock.asp
Claim: Black and white caterpillars are venomous.
TRUE
Example: [Collected via e-mail, August 2011]
Little white and black caterpillars all over are POISONOUS. they are
apparently new to the area..... doctors say there has been numerous
kids having reactions to them. the rash spreads fast. the caterpillars
have long white hairs that embed in skin and send poison through out
the body. DO NOT TOUCH and DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS TOUCH!!! they look
cute and fuzzy and THEY ARE NOT! Please repost to everyone you know
with little kids!!
(more on web site)
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TOPIC: Self Suficient?
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 13 2011 2:35 pm
From: Vandy Terre
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:09:11 -0500, Derald <derald@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote:
>
>>The quiz was an attempt to get people to think a little.
> A Sisyphian task attempted by many others in the past with no measurable
>success. Good luck.
>>
>>Who is Glenn Beck?
> In the U.S.A. he is a notorious "conservative" reactionary (and rather
>silly, IMO) radio/television blowhard who repetitively and consistently warns of
>impending societal and fiscal Armegeddon.
> In my view, unless one is located in an _extremely_ remote location, in
>such event, short-term survivabilty is more likely to be determined by
>timeliness of exit as well as the amount of motor fuel (and, perhaps, bullets)
>one can transport. Food stores, fuel stores, trade goods, daughters, and a
>weapons cache simply will make a more tempting target.
Thank you for the information. I do live in a remote location and tend to think
in terms of surviving a week minimum with out leaving the property. This is a
very small sub-division so we are last or near last on the list to have electric
or telephone lines repaired.
While I am not fond of the blow hards ever announcing the end of the world, I
truly believe that we are in for a few hard years.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 13 2011 2:39 pm
From: Vandy Terre
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:56:46 +0000 (UTC), Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote in
>news:kcmo37dfvejnig5li3gh8m23um37fnjrpg@4ax.com:
>
>> How long can you survive in your home with the food on hand? How much
>> of that food could survive with out electricity? Or how would you
>> cook it if the electric and gas were cut?
>>
>> Do you have alternative lighting solutions? Candles, oil lanterns,
>> flash lights? How many day's worth do you hold? Could you last a
>> week?
>>
>> How would you survive heat or cold without electric or gas? Do you
>> know how to build a fire in a fireplace or even have a fireplace? Do
>> you know that a damp rag worn on the back of the neck helps the body
>> loose heat?
>
>What would you drink if the water supply became tainted or unavailable?
>How would you flush your toilets or dispose of your "waste".
Rain water after boiling if the creek is dry. We are blessed with a small
spring fed creek that runs most of the year, except now. Right now we have
water stored and catch rain water to help water livestock/ gardens.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 13 2011 2:45 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Vandy Terre wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:09:11 -0500, Derald <derald@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The quiz was an attempt to get people to think a little.
>> A Sisyphian task attempted by many others in the past with no
>> measurable success. Good luck.
>>>
>>> Who is Glenn Beck?
>> In the U.S.A. he is a notorious "conservative" reactionary (and
>> rather
>> silly, IMO) radio/television blowhard who repetitively and
>> consistently warns of impending societal and fiscal Armegeddon.
>> In my view, unless one is located in an _extremely_ remote location,
>> in
>> such event, short-term survivabilty is more likely to be determined
>> by timeliness of exit as well as the amount of motor fuel (and,
>> perhaps, bullets) one can transport. Food stores, fuel stores, trade
>> goods, daughters, and a weapons cache simply will make a more
>> tempting target.
>
> Thank you for the information. I do live in a remote location and
> tend to think in terms of surviving a week minimum with out leaving
> the property. This is a very small sub-division so we are last or
> near last on the list to have electric or telephone lines repaired.
>
> While I am not fond of the blow hards ever announcing the end of the
> world, I truly believe that we are in for a few hard years.
Wont be that hard with 90% employed.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 13 2011 4:50 pm
From: Gordon
Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote in
news:lkrd471pj2vjce26u4mtjuq0gjd2753k6e@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:56:46 +0000 (UTC), Gordon
> <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>
>>Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote in
>>news:kcmo37dfvejnig5li3gh8m23um37fnjrpg@4ax.com:
>>
>>> How long can you survive in your home with the food on hand? How
>>> much of that food could survive with out electricity? Or how would
>>> you cook it if the electric and gas were cut?
>>>
>>> Do you have alternative lighting solutions? Candles, oil lanterns,
>>> flash lights? How many day's worth do you hold? Could you last a
>>> week?
>>>
>>> How would you survive heat or cold without electric or gas? Do you
>>> know how to build a fire in a fireplace or even have a fireplace?
>>> Do you know that a damp rag worn on the back of the neck helps the
>>> body loose heat?
>>
>>What would you drink if the water supply became tainted or
>>unavailable? How would you flush your toilets or dispose of your
>>"waste".
>
> Rain water after boiling if the creek is dry. We are blessed with a
> small spring fed creek that runs most of the year, except now. Right
> now we have water stored and catch rain water to help water livestock/
> gardens.
>
>
Just thought I'd ask.
Around here we are blessed with a long rainy season. One mild rain storm
and I have 120 gals of rain water. Plus, there is about 40 to 50 gals
of potable water in the water heater. I'm actually giving some thought
to using the rain water to flush the toilets by hooking up a Flojet
pump and a 12 volt battery.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 13 2011 8:29 pm
From: Derald
Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote:
>I do live in a remote location and tend to think
>in terms of surviving a week minimum with out leaving the property. This is a
>very small sub-division so we are last or near last on the list to have electric
>or telephone lines repaired.
Well, where I live once was remote but, at an ever-increasing rate, the
past twenty years have seen an influx of townies whose idea of "country life"
comes from teevee reruns, movies, etc. and to whom it seems quite reasonable to
commute 100+ miles to keep a job. Beats me.... As you imply, one benefit -- such
as it is -- of increasing population density is shortened restoration times for
power and telephone outages. The last hurricane that came near enough to be a
threat resulted in a week's power outage for my neighbors and, strangely, only a
day's for DW&me. I have adequate shelter against hurricanes; tornado, too, given
adequate warning. Ironically, by the time one is certain of hurricane's impact,
conditions are such that only the most foolish would consider trying to escape.
If long-term survivability were an issue then the matter of a reliable water
supply would be the first that I addressed.
My food and seed reserves, such as they are, are more the result of a
lifestyle choice than of paranoia, although, I find the growing unrest among the
Johnsonian entitlement class to be a bit unnerving.
>
>I truly believe that we are in for a few hard years.
How hard can they be with a nearly 90% employment rate? I have little
sympathy for overextended imprudent wage slaves and corporate minions who bought
into the free money myth. I expect to be okay provided that the current crop of
incompetent Keynesian fools pretending to be running things don't devalue the
currency too drastically. Frankly, the current economic doldrums should work to
my personal advantage: I am of an age where I consider myself able to accomplish
one more move and resettlement before infirmity and ill health become serious
considerations and DW&I are planning to move to a more remote location within
the next year. As long as the statist pretenders-in-charge continue to keep the
economy depressed, I should be able to take advantage of the depressed real
estate values and "buy up" for cash.
--
Derald
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 13 2011 7:43 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article <9ao9jqFedfU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vandy Terre wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:09:11 -0500, Derald <derald@invalid.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The quiz was an attempt to get people to think a little.
> >> A Sisyphian task attempted by many others in the past with no
> >> measurable success. Good luck.
> >>>
> >>> Who is Glenn Beck?
> >> In the U.S.A. he is a notorious "conservative" reactionary (and
> >> rather
> >> silly, IMO) radio/television blowhard who repetitively and
> >> consistently warns of impending societal and fiscal Armegeddon.
> >> In my view, unless one is located in an _extremely_ remote location,
> >> in
> >> such event, short-term survivabilty is more likely to be determined
> >> by timeliness of exit as well as the amount of motor fuel (and,
> >> perhaps, bullets) one can transport. Food stores, fuel stores, trade
> >> goods, daughters, and a weapons cache simply will make a more
> >> tempting target.
> >
> > Thank you for the information. I do live in a remote location and
> > tend to think in terms of surviving a week minimum with out leaving
> > the property. This is a very small sub-division so we are last or
> > near last on the list to have electric or telephone lines repaired.
> >
> > While I am not fond of the blow hards ever announcing the end of the
> > world, I truly believe that we are in for a few hard years.
>
> Wont be that hard with 90% employed.
which country has 90% employment?
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