Thursday, August 13, 2015

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 17 updates in 2 topics

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Aug 12 08:21PM -0700

On 08/12/2015 12:17 PM, Bob F wrote:
 
> Just turn off data except when you need it. 2000minutes/1yr for $80, 100
> minutes/4mo $10, minutes carry over if you don't let them expire, so you have to
> keep track of renew date. Data available, texts $.05, data $.10/megabyte.
 
Got a URL? I looked at the PP site and couldn't find anything even
close to that :-(
 
 
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"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Aug 12 09:48PM -0700

The Real Bev wrote:
>> Data available, texts $.05, data $.10/megabyte.
 
> Got a URL? I looked at the PP site and couldn't find anything even
> close to that :-(
 
Pay-as-you-go plans
https://www.pagepluscellular.com/plans/
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>: Aug 13 08:37AM +0100

On 13/08/2015 05:48, Bob F wrote:
>> close to that :-(
 
> Pay-as-you-go plans
> https://www.pagepluscellular.com/plans/
 
Is this one of the few things that we get cheaper in the UK? I pay
£10/month ($15) for the equivalent of their $30 plan. Not exactly a
reason to up sticks . . . ;-)
 
Mind, the home broadband effectively costs $50/month for a 100Mb service.
 
 
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Cheers, Rob
Dee <d@d.d>: Aug 13 11:23AM

Beaver_Fever@live.com wrote in
> what should I do here?
 
> This has the opportunity to be the last great MCFL on topic
> thread, let's make it count!
 
Tracfone now has BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone). Buy a used Verizon
post-paid smartphone on eBay (or even new, there is a seller with new
Moto G phones for $45 on eBay). Then switch your service to the new
phone (may require an ESN change and/or new SIM card, I'm not sure).
 
I'm on Page Plus now and have recommended them in the past, but they
are more expensive than Tracfone. I'll probably be switching to TF
in the next couple of months.
 
Dee
trader4@optonline.net: Aug 13 06:39AM -0700

On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 12:13:40 PM UTC-4, Beaver...@live.com wrote:
 
Check out Ting. It's prepaid where you buy the amount of V, T, D that you need. Like most VMNOs, Ting rides on Sprint, so how well it would work depends on the Spring coverage in the area you're using it in.
trader4@optonline.net: Aug 13 06:58AM -0700

On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 6:09:29 PM UTC-4, Bruce Esquibel wrote:
 
> A friend of mine was using them, keyword, was.
 
> -bruce
> bje@ripco.com
 
And getting refunded for what you don't use is such a bad thing?
From what I see, you can get a plan with unlimited V/T, 500mb of
data for $17.50, and if you don't use all the data, they refund a
few bucks at the end of the month.
 
I think the bigger issue with Republic is that the voice call default
uses wifi and it only goes on the cellular network if wifi isn't
available. I've tried several VOIP services on my phone and they
have ranged from terrible to barely acceptable. Nothing like the
call quality and reliability from traditional cell companies. Maybe
Republic is better, but I don't want to be the one to figure it out.
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Aug 13 07:29AM -0700

RJH wrote:
> reason to up sticks . . . ;-)
 
> Mind, the home broadband effectively costs $50/month for a 100Mb
> service.
 
Both substantially less than the US. Similar for cable TV I suspect. I've heard
much of europe is similarly less. I don't have a cap on my internet though.
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Aug 13 07:38AM -0700

Bob F wrote:
 
> Both substantially less than the US. Similar for cable TV I suspect.
> I've heard much of europe is similarly less. I don't have a cap on my
> internet though.
 
Oops! No cap memtioned. That's twice as fast as my service.
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>: Aug 13 04:06PM +0100

On 13/08/2015 15:38, Bob F wrote:
>> I've heard much of europe is similarly less. I don't have a cap on my
>> internet though.
 
> Oops! No cap memtioned. That's twice as fast as my service.
 
No cap. I'd guess your telecomms people have stitched it all up and
created cartels. We have a strange legacy issue, in that our 'backbone'
provider (British Telecom) used to be state owned. Since privatisation
(mid-80s, Thatcher), government has regulated prices to an extent, but
that grip is being loosened. So we'll catch you up ;-)
 
On TV, we have 'Free to Air', which provides a pretty good service for
many, but a $200 licence fee is payable to the BBC. Quite a few (me
included) don't pay, because we use internet 'catch up' service like the
BBC iPlayer. So TV is effectively free, unless you want sports, movies
et - in which case it's over to Murdoch etc.
 
It's a funny do. Your food is a lot cheaper than ours, and property in
all but the prime areas is a factor of many less to buy/rent. Our direct
taxes are higher but then we get the health service. Etc :-)
 
 
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Cheers, Rob
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Aug 13 10:12AM -0700

On 08/12/2015 09:48 PM, Bob F wrote:
>> close to that :-(
 
> Pay-as-you-go plans
> https://www.pagepluscellular.com/plans/
 
Crap, I just didn't look far enough down the page. With the prepaid
'plans' do you buy unexpirable data in advance or just pay for it as you
use it?
 
 
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Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: Aug 13 08:03PM

>have ranged from terrible to barely acceptable. Nothing like the
>call quality and reliability from traditional cell companies. Maybe
>Republic is better, but I don't want to be the one to figure it out.
 
I've been using Republic for about 8 months now (my kids have been on
it for about 1 year longer - they were my test cases). I have had no
problems with the call quality on wifi (at home, at work or at any of
the hotspots I've used), but maybe it varies with the quality of your
wifi signal. My only other experience with VOIP was with the GrooVeIP
app (via Google Voice) and the Republic quality is consistenly better
than that was.
 
My phone is on their $10/month plan (unlimited cell talk and text,
plus wifi talk, text and data when available). It works great for me,
but I am intrigued by their new scheme where I can buy some cell data
and then get refunded for what I don't use. Seems ideal for me as I
would only rarely use data when away from wifi.
 
My only complaint is that my daughter's $300 Moto-X phone died after
14 months - just outside of the one-year mfg warranty. Republic
support was very slow to respond and didn't offer me any special
consideration outside of the mfg's warranty. Maybe that is no
different than any other carrier would do - I don't know. (I was kind
of hoping for some special treatment since I was a Beta early
adopter.) So that kind of erased any savings I might have enjoyed from
using Republic vs. any other conventional carrier's plan.
 
Dennis (evil)
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My output is down, my income is up, I take a short position on the long bond and
my revenue stream has its own cash flow. -George Carlin
trader4@optonline.net: Aug 13 01:26PM -0700

On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 4:03:24 PM UTC-4, Dennis wrote:
> adopter.) So that kind of erased any savings I might have enjoyed from
> using Republic vs. any other conventional carrier's plan.
 
> Dennis (evil)
 
IDK what, if anything, a regular carrier would do to help you out
with a phone that was out of warranty. I had a friend who had a
Motorola Razor with Verizon, he had been a customer for decades,
was currently on a ~$100 month plan and Verizon wouldn't do
anything for him. Finally, after standing there, arguing in front
of other customers, a supervisor finally gave him a number to call
at Moto and told him that they might swap it for $100. That's
what he ended up doing, so at least he got some help from someplace,
but it looks like V just tries to make you go away.
 
And in the case of Republic, with a $10 plan they are hardly
making anything to begin with, so they don't have margin to
work with.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Aug 13 02:40PM -0700

On 08/13/2015 01:03 PM, Dennis wrote:
> than that was.
 
> My phone is on their $10/month plan (unlimited cell talk and text,
> plus wifi talk, text and data when available).
 
I got tired of looking around for plans -- all I saw was
PHONESPHONESPHONES and I already have one (Motorola Moto G #2, which is
a fine phone.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Moto-2nd-generation-Unlocked/dp/B00MWI4HW0locked/dp/B00MWI4HW0
 
> but I am intrigued by their new scheme where I can buy some cell data
> and then get refunded for what I don't use. Seems ideal for me as I
> would only rarely use data when away from wifi.
 
The only data I seriously want to use when wifi is unavailable is google
maps. Osmand is kind of a nuisance to use if you just want to find a place.
 
> 14 months - just outside of the one-year mfg warranty. Republic
> support was very slow to respond and didn't offer me any special
> consideration outside of the mfg's warranty.
 
You mean you didn't buy it with a credit card that gives you an extra
year's warranty? Shame on you!
 
 
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trader4@optonline.net: Aug 13 02:57PM -0700

On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 5:41:01 PM UTC-4, The Real Bev wrote:
 
> I got tired of looking around for plans -- all I saw was
> PHONESPHONESPHONES and I already have one (Motorola Moto G #2, which is
> a fine phone.
 
Look at *prepaid plans*. All the carriers have them, they are the
lowest cost option and every one I've seen you can bring your own
phone, provided it's compatible.
Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: Aug 13 10:03PM


>And in the case of Republic, with a $10 plan they are hardly
>making anything to begin with, so they don't have margin to
>work with.
 
I guess what torqued me off most was that I am reasonably convinced
that it is a software problem (i.e., there may be a relatively simple,
user applicable fix available), but Republic support offered no
assistance or even much interest, just suggested that I toss a
year-old $300 phone and buy a new replacement at full price.
 
I'm no expert on Android phones, but I am an experienced systems
engineer and know my way around PC networking and hardware. And I have
done my share of customer technical support. If I find the time, I
still may futz around with it and see if I can get it back to normal
operation. What have I got to lose?
 
 
Dennis (evil)
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I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Aug 13 03:29PM -0700

The Real Bev wrote:
 
> Crap, I just didn't look far enough down the page. With the prepaid
> 'plans' do you buy unexpirable data in advance or just pay for it as
> you use it?
 
You pay for it, then use it. I bought 2000 minutes a couple years ago, now add
$10 for another 100 minutes every 120 days. Still have lots of the 2000 left
carrying over.
Derald <derald@invalid.net>: Aug 13 08:47AM -0400

more Pageplus:
Neglected to mention that MMS, SMS (etc.), voice mail may be
disabled and, unlike other services, they _remain_ disabled until
explicitly reactivated. On some services, those functions either cannot
be disabled or they reactivate each month..
I use the $10 (no tax in my state) "standard" plan for the
emergency/honey-do phone that stays in the truck and the $12.00 ($13+,
with tax added) plan for the "home" phone. It's nice to have the phone
ring long enough for an old fart to find it.
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Derald
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