Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 7 topics

Friday, July 20, 2007

25 new messages in 7 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

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Today's topics:

* A/C working properly? Cost -> lower temp? - 17 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6c37471a9403c0a2?hl=en
* long distance - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3958949a13d8893f?hl=en
* a point about China's problems - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c328870180227d9a?hl=en
* Discount Gas with DISCOVER CARD - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e44183b12413019e?hl=en
* Reciept Checking At Stores - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f72b15fd62e35956?hl=en
* Vitamin C useless in combatting colds - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/498d68c0ba1d2e0f?hl=en
* Breast-Feeding: Private Act or Public Right? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d9ae679497789a49?hl=en

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TOPIC: A/C working properly? Cost -> lower temp?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6c37471a9403c0a2?hl=en
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== 1 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 8:23 am
From: Bill

In article <i51oi.208$WP1.49@newsfe19.lga>,
clams casino <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:

> Some 26% of the US still feel GW is doing a fully satisfactory job.
> Essentially the same percentage believe Iraq was behind the 9/11 terrorism.

Did that hurt?
When you pulled that out of your ass?

> Hmm - just how ignorant are the GW supporters?

Not near as ignorant as liberals. Hell they can't find the USA on a map
much less Iraq.

Answer this. Where is the "war on terror" being fought? Where should it
be fought?
I know that requires thinking. Take your time. Ask friends. We will wait.

http://michellemalkin.com/

== 2 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:32 am
From: "B-Hate-Me"

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:Iy3oi.10$Q81.7@newsfe12.lga...
>>
>> It appears that you are profoundly stupid.

>
> I was typing a lot and I am not a typist, nor am I looking for perfect
> grammar. Takes a person like yourself to find fault in other people. One
> would question the person you are or how smart you are. Instead of
> speaking about the topic and not my grammar.

What topic? UV lights? In the words of Buffy, "Puh-lease".

If I am making a presentation, which is essentially what you are doing here,
I check and re-check my spelling, punctuation and grammar. Guess why?

== 3 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 8:38 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

Bill wrote:
> In article <Po2oi.4$Q81.0@newsfe12.lga>,
> Home Enviro Health Specialists <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote:
>
>> No, this is an open public newsgroup to discuss HVAC (alt.hvac). If
>> some of you have been here for 12 years or any that just came here. You
>> should be honored and not insulting or argumentative towards people who
>> would value you opinion and asks questions. If you want your own
>> private HVAC club or newsgroup, who's stopping you, go do it. But this
>> is public.
> NO selling. Time to inform your isp.
>
>
>> Plus Joe Bill is the one that pushed the issue about the signature (as I
>
> You abuse it. You're all about the sale. You said you have no interest
> in HVAC. You use "discussion" as a hook to attempt to sell a expensive,
> dubious product using scare tactics.
> Most people don't need or could afford clean room equipment for their
> house. Nor is it necessary. I think the few individuals who could use
> your product already have a spacesuit.
>
> That you can't document your claims proves your lies.
>

I can post here an will post here. You asked for the signature so you
got it and you said anything in is legal. Now get a life.

Bill you really are just plain old dumb, aren't ya. Learn about your
industry Bill, I have offered more information from more valid sources
and you just keep babbling on about sales and claim that there is either
no need or the products don't work. Try supporting those statements
that you make, because I sure have supported documentation that they are
needed and do work.

If the information is scary (which I agree it is) are based upon facts
and not my beliefs or opinions. I don't nor do I have to sell anything.
The systems speak for themselves with validation and prove to be true
from various people and organizations. I just bring them to peoples
attention and have them benefit from the systems installed.

Not to mention you not having the expertise or the knowledge to evaluate
or undermine professionals that have developed and tested the
technology. I said I know enough and then some about HVAC to implement
the systems that I provide. I am not nor do I have a desire to be an
HVAC Tech.

Just keep having the public breathe fouled recirculated, contaminated
air in their buildings and then help them further by adding VOC's with
the chemicals that you use to clean the coil or the power washing that
will allow more mold to grow.

Wow! Bill I see how much you care about your customers, people and the
public, instead of providing something that would be more beneficial to
their health and have them actually save money.

Plus Bill stop taking portions out of the post when you reply and
concentrate on facts, not your ignorant, untrue, non-supported, silly,
boring, sales opinion.

The part you chose to leave out, the part where I do know about HVAC:

You seem to be a perfect candidate for a case study for the effects of
breathing such microbes and pathogens, and VOC's and what effects they
may impose to a particular individual (like your brain).

Not over priced the lowest cost most advanced customized systems in the
industry. You know what they say Bill, people that imply that others a
a certain way is because those people are that way. Do you overcharge
your customers?

Again, Bill educate yourself in your own industry and learn about the
advancements, etc. that have been made. Activated Carbon Bonded
Filtration will remove gases, etc. and UV-C will do the same for
microbes and pathogens, and VOC's you may want to try combining the two.
Problem solved.

The HVAC system would have completed its CFM oh what about 6-7 air
exchanges in an hour in an average system and as high as 10-12 exchanges
in other units. Wow Bill that would mean with none of these systems
installed you would "KEEP SPREADING THE, MICROBES, PATHOGENS, VOC'S,
VIRUSES, MILDEW, MOLD, ETC" to infect every one in the building through
it's ventilation system and/or HVAC system.

--
Jim - UV-C Light Purification
e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
*Viruses and *Bacteria.
*Downstream Air Purification
--------------------------
Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.
http://www.uvclightpurification.com

--------------------------
Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
provide a healthier environment for your clients, energy savings, and
extend life of the HVAC.
---------------------------
Please contact me with any questions, suggestions or input that you may
have.

Thank You

== 4 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 8:45 am
From: Bill

In article <uF4oi.18$lj7.5@newsfe12.lga>,
Home Enviro Health Specialists <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote:
> > NO selling. Time to inform your isp.
> >
> >
> >> Plus Joe Bill is the one that pushed the issue about the signature (as I
> >
> > You abuse it. You're all about the sale. You said you have no interest
> > in HVAC. You use "discussion" as a hook to attempt to sell a expensive,
> > dubious product using scare tactics.
> > Most people don't need or could afford clean room equipment for their
> > house. Nor is it necessary. I think the few individuals who could use
> > your product already have a spacesuit.
> >
> > That you can't document your claims proves your lies.
> >
>
> I can post here an will post here. You asked for the signature so you
> got it and you said anything in is legal. Now get a life.

NO SELLING. You TOS with your ISP covers this. I also said NO SELLING!

How retarded are you boy?

http://michellemalkin.com/

== 5 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 8:51 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

Bill wrote:
> In article <uF4oi.18$lj7.5@newsfe12.lga>,
> Home Enviro Health Specialists <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote:
>>> NO selling. Time to inform your isp.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Plus Joe Bill is the one that pushed the issue about the signature (as I
>>> You abuse it. You're all about the sale. You said you have no interest
>>> in HVAC. You use "discussion" as a hook to attempt to sell a expensive,
>>> dubious product using scare tactics.
>>> Most people don't need or could afford clean room equipment for their
>>> house. Nor is it necessary. I think the few individuals who could use
>>> your product already have a spacesuit.
>>>
>>> That you can't document your claims proves your lies.
>>>
>> I can post here an will post here. You asked for the signature so you
>> got it and you said anything in is legal. Now get a life.
>
> NO SELLING. You TOS with your ISP covers this. I also said NO SELLING!
>
> How retarded are you boy?
>
Your dumb, BOY. All I have is my signature and you asked for that ("put
in a signature and I'll shut up") or I would have nothing there. My ISP
will do nothing, remember Bill "whatever you put in your signature is
legal".

Thank You

== 6 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:02 am
From: Bill

In article <6R4oi.20$lj7.1@newsfe12.lga>,
Home Enviro Health Specialists <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote:

> > NO SELLING. You TOS with your ISP covers this. I also said NO SELLING!
> >
> > How retarded are you boy?
> >
> Your dumb, BOY. All I have is my signature and you asked for that ("put
> in a signature and I'll shut up") or I would have nothing there. My ISP
> will do nothing, remember Bill "whatever you put in your signature is
> legal".

Your history of spamming the newsgroup and your obvious sales techniques
here in addition to your bloated signature paint a picture even your ISP
can see.
When you get their letter. Think of me.

http://michellemalkin.com/

== 7 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:11 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

Bill wrote:
> In article <6R4oi.20$lj7.1@newsfe12.lga>,
> Home Enviro Health Specialists <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote:
>
>>> NO SELLING. You TOS with your ISP covers this. I also said NO SELLING!
>>>
>>> How retarded are you boy?
>>>
>> Your dumb, BOY. All I have is my signature and you asked for that ("put
>> in a signature and I'll shut up") or I would have nothing there. My ISP
>> will do nothing, remember Bill "whatever you put in your signature is
>> legal".
>
> Your history of spamming the newsgroup and your obvious sales techniques
> here in addition to your bloated signature paint a picture even your ISP
> can see.
> When you get their letter. Think of me.
>

I think Carie already addressed that moron. Posting to 5 related
newsgroups is not considered spamming and that was done over a month
ago. It was done with the purpose of discussion.

Thank You

== 8 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:14 am
From: clams casino

Bill wrote:

>In article <i51oi.208$WP1.49@newsfe19.lga>,
> clams casino <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Some 26% of the US still feel GW is doing a fully satisfactory job.
>>Essentially the same percentage believe Iraq was behind the 9/11 terrorism.
>>
>>
>
>Did that hurt?
>When you pulled that out of your ass?
>
>

Harris poll (July 2007) - 26% percent: - President Bush's approval
rating according to a new Harris poll, down from a high of 88 percent
shortly after 9/11.

I recalled the second part incorrectly - " Even today, more than four
years into the war in Iraq, as many as four in 10 Americans (41 percent)
still believe Saddam Hussein's regime was directly involved in
financing, planning or carrying out the terrorist attacks on 9/11, even
though no evidence has surfaced to support a connection."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19390791/site/newsweek/

>
>
>>Hmm - just how ignorant are the GW supporters?
>>
>>
>
>Not near as ignorant as liberals. Hell they can't find the USA on a map
>much less Iraq.
>
>
>
Reinforces your ignorance - I've been a registered Republican all my
life. I just didn't vote for cowboy, baby bush (either time).

>Answer this. Where is the "war on terror" being fought? Where should it
>be fought?
>I know that requires thinking. Take your time. Ask friends. We will wait.
>
>
>
Had GW used the military to go after the terrorists after 9/11 rather
than using it as a convenient way to overthrow Saddam in his pissing
contest (even Saddam grossly underestimated GW's self-interest cowboy
instinct), the world would be a whole lot safer today.

Then again, the Cheney / GW agenda has always been to stir up fear
around the world to enrich their oil-based coffers through higher oil
pricing. Meanwhile, they continue to cost the US about $10B/mo trying to
cover their ass in their botched invasion of Iraq (which once again -
had NOTHING to do with 9/11) - all with borrowed money that will have to
be paid for well after they leave office.

But then, GW has had a history of similar failures (proceed on shoot
from the hip, gut feel & get others to bail him out).

For a start - GW needs to go and the US needs to rebuild badly shattered
diplomacy amongst allies.. His fear mongering, stay-the-course, failed
strategy has been a failure from day one (except to enrich his family /
friends coffers).

Then, a retreat from Iraq is needed with a buildup in Afghanistan using
world-wide cooperation is necessary to wipe out the terrorists training
camps. Unfortunately, the military has been spread way too thin to be
effective on the real threats of terrorism, as history has proven.

== 9 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:18 am
From: "Bob F"

"Bill" <notinterested@mail.com> wrote in message
news:46a0d368$0$3092$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

> Answer this. Where is the "war on terror" being fought? Where should it
> be fought?
> I know that requires thinking. Take your time. Ask friends. We will wait.

Do you mean Bushes "War to create and train terrorists"? It's been a great
success.

All the reports coming out of the relevant agencies are showing more terrorism,
Al Queda stronger than before 9/11, etc. Bush was Bin Ladens greatest promoter.
Everything he has done has played into Bin Ladens hands.

It is hard to believe there are still people that think the fiasco in Iraq is
making ANYONE safer. They have their heads so far up their A.... they can't see
anything.

Bob

== 10 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:26 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> "Tony" <t.seput@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:LHSki.3283$Y_3.2444@trnddc04...
>> KJPRO the only qualification you have
>> kiddy garden and that would be to advance for you
>> I am suggesting more like day care.
>> son grow up.
>> Tony
>
>
> Facts hurt you , Eh?
>
> Sorry...
>
>
Wow Kjpro more people have formed some interesting opinions of you.
Hmm,, Maybe it is you.

Thank You

== 11 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:24 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:oJ3oi.12$Q81.5@newsfe12.lga...
> kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> > "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote
in
> > message news:F0Wni.93$Zi.38@newsfe12.lga...
> >
> >> Hey Jeffy then *pay* and get your own *private* newsgroup, this is
> >> public, no one here owns it including you and from the language that
you
> >> have in your vocabulary you should be banned from any public group.
> >
> >
> > You should be banned for being ignorant.
> >
> >
> You can't be serious, read the posts. I am the one that is ignorant.
> You make claims with not having proper knowledge, insult people, speak
> to people rudely, think that a public newsgroup is just for you and who
> you say is ok to be here, think you know all and don't have the ability
> to learn about something you know nothing about, claim others don't know
> things when you don't have the knowledge to make that determining factor
> and last but not least, you don't have the ability to learn about
> advances in your own industry and I am the one that is ignorant?

You have one thing right when you state " I am the one that is ignorant".

BTW, how's that UV light going to extend the life of a unit?
I mean after all, you have to cover the evap pan and other plastics. LOL

== 12 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:29 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:Fw2oi.5$Q81.3@newsfe12.lga...

> I think you were told many times before I am not gay nor do I swing or
> switch. You keep pushing that issue. Are you trying to see if you can
> get me to say yes, because you are that way and looking or a date?

Did you forget that you're the one asking for WHO I am and WHERE I'm
located?
It's not the other way around, like you say.

> The deleted posts is for no purpose other than you don't want people to
> continue reading the ignorant or not so nice way that you speak to
> people. Your right it would not be a big deal until someone purposely
> would place settings to delete a post. Why not leave it there is the
> question?

I haven't set anything up to delete posts, never have, so why don't you ask
the people who's doing it?

> Oh and by the way K Pro so far there was one post that I saw where you
> wanted to sell a person filters. Spam, Sales Boy!

Please post where I stated I was SELLING anything?
Go find it or shut your fucking pie hole.

== 13 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:31 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
> message news:oJ3oi.12$Q81.5@newsfe12.lga...
>> kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
>>> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote
> in
>>> message news:F0Wni.93$Zi.38@newsfe12.lga...
>>>
>>>> Hey Jeffy then *pay* and get your own *private* newsgroup, this is
>>>> public, no one here owns it including you and from the language that
> you
>>>> have in your vocabulary you should be banned from any public group.
>>>
>>> You should be banned for being ignorant.
>>>
>>>
>> You can't be serious, read the posts. I am the one that is ignorant.
>> You make claims with not having proper knowledge, insult people, speak
>> to people rudely, think that a public newsgroup is just for you and who
>> you say is ok to be here, think you know all and don't have the ability
>> to learn about something you know nothing about, claim others don't know
>> things when you don't have the knowledge to make that determining factor
>> and last but not least, you don't have the ability to learn about
>> advances in your own industry and I am the one that is ignorant?
>
>
> You have one thing right when you state " I am the one that is ignorant".
>
> BTW, how's that UV light going to extend the life of a unit?
> I mean after all, you have to cover the evap pan and other plastics. LOL
>
>
>
Read and learn about your own industry. The advantages way out the
disadvantages. Plus, not much plastic in the plenum to be exposed
anyway. And we discussed this before it would take an extended period
of time to the UV to effect the plastics, but we do cover them for it
not to be an issue.

Thank You

== 14 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:34 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
> message news:Fw2oi.5$Q81.3@newsfe12.lga...
>
>> I think you were told many times before I am not gay nor do I swing or
>> switch. You keep pushing that issue. Are you trying to see if you can
>> get me to say yes, because you are that way and looking or a date?
>
>
> Did you forget that you're the one asking for WHO I am and WHERE I'm
> located?
> It's not the other way around, like you say.
>
>
>> The deleted posts is for no purpose other than you don't want people to
>> continue reading the ignorant or not so nice way that you speak to
>> people. Your right it would not be a big deal until someone purposely
>> would place settings to delete a post. Why not leave it there is the
>> question?
>
>
> I haven't set anything up to delete posts, never have, so why don't you ask
> the people who's doing it?
>
>
>> Oh and by the way K Pro so far there was one post that I saw where you
>> wanted to sell a person filters. Spam, Sales Boy!
>
>
> Please post where I stated I was SELLING anything?
> Go find it or shut your fucking pie hole.
>
>
The filters, you know where you said it or can you not even retain
information that speaks from your own mouth?

Thank You

== 15 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:33 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:Po2oi.4$Q81.0@newsfe12.lga...

> No, this is an open public newsgroup to discuss HVAC (alt.hvac). If
> some of you have been here for 12 years or any that just came here. You
> should be honored and not insulting or argumentative towards people who
> would value you opinion and asks questions. If you want your own
> private HVAC club or newsgroup, who's stopping you, go do it. But this
> is public.

And likewise, if you don't like it, you can leave!

> I am proud of who I am and what I do

Most snake oil salesmen are...

> people actually benefit in many
> ways from these systems, it not just selling another product that may
> eventually end up in a closet or the basement being useless. People,
> children, company's actually save money, gain health benefits and extend
> the life of the HVAC unit.

After they cover all the plastic parts... LOL

> No other product to my knowledge provides
> the public and private sector with such aspects.
>
> No, not sending anyone anything, but if you choose to be disrespectful
> and abuse people in here, man up and tell the world who you are.
>
> I didn't ask to talk about UV everyday and I have been reading different
> posts here to learn more about HVAC than I already know

You learn something, must be hard...

== 16 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:34 am
From: Bill

In article <E--dnc05nr3UfT3bnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Bill" <notinterested@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:46a0d368$0$3092$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> > Answer this. Where is the "war on terror" being fought? Where should it
> > be fought?
> > I know that requires thinking. Take your time. Ask friends. We will wait.
>
> Do you mean Bushes "War to create and train terrorists"? It's been a great
> success.
>
> All the reports coming out of the relevant agencies are showing more
> terrorism,
> Al Queda stronger than before 9/11, etc. Bush was Bin Ladens greatest
> promoter.
> Everything he has done has played into Bin Ladens hands.
>
> It is hard to believe there are still people that think the fiasco in Iraq is
> making ANYONE safer. They have their heads so far up their A.... they can't
> see
> anything.
>
> Bob

And your solution is......

http://michellemalkin.com/

== 17 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:44 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:Iy3oi.10$Q81.7@newsfe12.lga...

> I was typing a lot and I am not a typist, nor am I looking for perfect
> grammar. Takes a person like yourself to find fault in other people.
> One would question the person you are or how smart you are. Instead of
> speaking about the topic and not my grammar.

That's right, he can find faults in you and he's determined that you're an
idiot!!!

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TOPIC: long distance
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3958949a13d8893f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 8:29 am
From: "Tracey"

"mrtdddejspioewhfq" <mrtdddejspioewhfq@mrtdddejspioewhfq.com> wrote in
message news:V46dnfL1IOrq7D3bnZ2dnUVZ_r2nnZ2d@pghconnect.com...
> Does anyone know if this is possible:
> > My questions are:
>
> Will a local phone company allow someone to have local service without any
> long distance provider?

YES. Be sure to ask them to freeze your account or whatever they call it to
avoid getting slammed.

> Will I be able to recieve long distance calls?

Yes.

> Can I call 800 numbers with just local service ( I assume 800 calls won't
> be
> free if I use the prepaid card)?

You can call 800, 888, 866 numbers for free with just local service. The
only problem is directory assistance (which is a ripoff anyway).

>
> I know there are long distance services that don't charge a monthly
> minimum
> but they require credit card info and an ssn to do a credit check so I'd
> rather avoid them if I can.

You can also ask your local telco for whatever longdistance plan is
available in your area without a month minimum or a monthly charge and sign
up for that 'plan', then just never use it. Just make sure everyone in your
home knows to use the calling card. (I have the calling card number posted
on an index card next to the phone as a reminder, or you could program it
into your phones memory).

>
> Are there any recommendations for prepaid long distance? It would have to
> be
> something where the time doesn't expire since I don't want to have to be
> buying more time every so often.

We use the card we bought at Sam's Club several years ago. I think it comes
out to somewhere around 3 cents per minute, depending on how many minutes
you buy at a time, and the time never expires. I usually buy 2000 or 2500
minutes at a time and it lasts for about a year before I need to renew it.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:02 am
From: kevin_zquik41@yahoo.com

You already got some good answers. (I dumped my land line long
distance and just use my cell for long distance.)

But I just wanted to add that you might want to try "Skype"

You talk through your computer with a microphone. It's totally free
when you are talking with someone "computer-to-computer." But it does
cost if you want to use it to talk "computer to someone's phone."

The sound quality is very very very good. I talk to people in other
countries with it.

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TOPIC: a point about China's problems
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c328870180227d9a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 8:42 am
From: gjensen

Two more children's products from China recalled easy bake oven aftr
partial finger amputation and Playskool Sippy Cups; Poses Choking
Hazard To Young Children

http://www.familiesonlinemagazine.com/todaysfamilyforum/viewforum.php?f=19

On Jul 13, 2:04 pm, max <betat...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> This isn't rocket science, but on the other hand, most people aren't rocket
> scientists either, so...
>
> This whole China Poison Train dustup is a bit of a double edged sword, after
> a fashion.
>
> On the one hand, the international community is filled with a mix of
> shadenfreude and horror at the revelations of the utterly unsatisfactory
> practices of *some* Chinese food manufacturers, and by extension, non food
> manufacturers. "We" find our dismissals of Chinese products as worthless
> cheap crap vindicated on a daily basis.
>
> The Cheap Crap criticism has been almost the last buttress we have against
> Chinese products -- you can by chinese junk, or you can buy good (American)
> products.
>
> The net effect of the current dustup will be a Darwinian improvement of
> quality of Chinese products, and this will further pressure American
> manufacturers, who still won't be able to compete on a labor cost basis.
>
> Remember, we used to dismiss Japanese products with almost exactly the same
> criticisms in the 50's, 60's and 70's. The next five years are likely to
> see a quantum leap in aggregate Chinese quality. We already have some damn
> fine Chinese made products on the market, and the number is about to get
> significantly bigger.
>
> The Chinese should improve their product safety and quality, and we will be
> fools if we think that won't happen, and bigger fools if we don't forsee the
> long range consequences to our balance of trade.
>
> .max

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TOPIC: Discount Gas with DISCOVER CARD
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e44183b12413019e?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 8:54 am
From: kevin_zquik41@yahoo.com

5% cash back bonus:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/718619/discount_gasoline_with_credit_card/

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TOPIC: Reciept Checking At Stores
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f72b15fd62e35956?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:02 am
From: Zilbandy

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:50:24 -0400, "Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com>
wrote:

>I don't usually mind if the check takes only a few seconds. But there was a
>line one day in Sam's Club so I just walked out. The checker said "ma'am,
>you can't do that," abandoned the waiting customers and chased me out the
>door

Is Sam's Club one of those places that has a membership agreement you
have to sign to join? If so, you might want to read it to see if they
say that will check your receipt as you leave. If they don't have
anything like that in the agreement, then you really shouldn't have to
stop. However, if they do, then just walking out would be in violation
of your membership terms.

--
Zilbandy

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:27 am
From: Steve

Always fun to show them a random receipt from a different store. The
look of befuddlement generally lasts long enough to get to your car.

Good breeding consists of concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person.

...Mark Twain

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TOPIC: Vitamin C useless in combatting colds
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/498d68c0ba1d2e0f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:08 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

"Ben Kaufman" <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:a4i1a39lkbp15dbm0219fsvis096i33m7e@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:17:36 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
> <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Conspiracy of Doves" <mark_dp73@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1184864791.227417.287750@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jul 19, 12:15 am, "Wilson" <wil...@universal.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/18/nvit1...
>>>>
>>>> Vitamin C useless in combatting colds
>>>>
>>>> a.. Taking vitamin C supplements to prevent a cold is a waste of
>>>> time
>>>> and money, say researchers. A review of 30 studies involving more than
>>>> 11,000 people found that taking the tablets had no effect on the
>>>> average
>>>> person.
>>
>>not true. wonder what mgs were tested. it used to be that when i
>>felt
>>a cold/flu
>>coming on, i'd load up on vit c--20 GRAMS or so. knocked it right out.
>>no
>>nothing. i even tested it once and let myself get to feeling sick, just
>>to
>>be sure i
>>was going to get sick, and same thing. gone in a day or two.
>>
>>now i just take garlic and echinacea and i NEVER get sick. neither does
>>dh.
>>
>
> 20 grams? That would knock everything out of me :-)

the initial dose only. it can cause the runs.

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TOPIC: Breast-Feeding: Private Act or Public Right?
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Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:35 am
From: William_Wingstedt@comcast.net (William Wingstedt)

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:51:38 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
<derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
>news:p3hv93hoerbhuadto05kuj5o9qo1bobdpn@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:13:15 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
>> <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>if all who don't want children would abstain, there'd be no reason to
>>>choose
>>>anything. just don't do it unless you both want children.
>>
>> So a victim of rape, or failed contraception, wants children.
>
>i really don't think that the majority unwanted pregnancies are the victims
>of
>rape, do you? they are a miniscule number in the overall unwanted
>pregnancy
>scheme. they are the ONLY ones who should have to do any after-the-fact
>choosing.
>they didn't play, but do have to pay in some way. bad things happen.
>that's life.
>all the rest DID have a choice and chose to play in some way. those
>pregnancies
>can be avoided 100%.
>
>someone with a failed contraception isn't a victim of any kind. the only
>contraception
>that works 100% is abstinence (or a hysterectomy--but that's a bit radical
>for most women).

Unless you're a christian, in which case there's always that chance
your god might impregnate you. The upside is that you'll forever have
your likeness mysteriously appear on cheese sandwiches and bridge
abutments.

>they made a choice, and that choice got them, BOTH of them, pregnant. HE
>may not
>carry the baby, but HE IS financially responsible, even if someone's
>contracepive failed.
>if you don't want a baby, it's YOUR responsibility to ensure that there is
>no baby.
>rape excepted.
>
>>
>> --
>>
>> The spelling like any opinion stated here
>> is purely my own
>>
>> #162 BAAWA Knight.
>
>

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