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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Barbican Library 6/2/2003 (28617)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 17 2007 8:14 pm
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Barbican Library - 6/Feb/2003

Certainty level: 100%

Here's an item from early February 2003, at which time Security Service were re-igniting hostilities against me, a direct result of my appeal
for a legal hearing against their organisation. On Thursday 6/Feb/2003 I went to the Barbican in central London with my mother to visit the library
and have a meal. Security Service naturally knew about it because it had been mentioned the previous day in our house which is under constant
surveillance on grounds of "National Security", so they may have been able to inform staff there to say something to me, as has been done elsewhere.
Two of the people at the Enquiries desk in the library obviously knew of my circumstances, I spoke to one of them who was very polite, and while
I was waiting I heard the other speaking with a little less politeness, as recorded on this audio file. He said, "I spy", to start a game of
guess what "I spy"; unsubtle, MI5 Spy. Then, at the 34 second mark on this clip he said;

"So obvious you couldn't even get that. I shall have to kill you. ha, ha, ha"

The words "I shall have to kill you" are interesting because such overt expression is rarely heard. Security Service wish me extinct.
Some years ago they were openly shouting "suicide" at me, so that is established. But there is an element of doublethink in their attitude;
they use people's natural prejudice against mentally ill, who are popularly painted by media as being aggressive, to try to tinge the group's
view of me and MI5's actions against me. The Security Service religion is that the country's enemies are deadly, and must therefore be
extinguished. Hence, we must seize eagerly upon the disabled schizophrenic from Clapham, and throttle him, because who knows what'll happen if we don't.

There may be a subtle agenda of population control in what the Security Service have been doing in this country since 1990. In the current issue
of 2600 Magazine (the Hacker quarterly, which I read from time to time) there is a quote from Hermann Goering on page 2; "the people can always
be brought to the bidding of the leaders. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked. It works the same in any country".
2600 printed the quote as a comment on the projected war against Iraq, which does not appear to pose any threat to the territory of
those countries which wish to invade it. However the quote is somewhat relevant to my case, which is widely known about within Britain;
the security service instructs all right thinking citizens to do MI5's bidding and band together against a common enemy, while at the same time
there is a suggestion of "look what'll happen to you if you don't obey us".

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TOPIC: The USA's going bankrupt; China's takeover has just begun
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 12:24 am
From: "Rod Speed"

DemoDisk <packrat@nospam.com> wrote
> AllEmailDeletedImmediately <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote

>> GOING bankrupt? where the hell have you been?
>> we've been bankrupt for YEARS.

Clearly wouldnt know what real bankruptcy was if it bit it on its lard arse.

> Debt is the place to be nowdays. Go into debt if you think you can
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> always talk about the price of oil being (until ~recently) no higher
> than before the 70's. Oil goes up, prices go up, salaries and wages
> go up, and everything's the same.

> Too bad, though, for people on fixed incomes, and
> people who built up savings. They get screwed.

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 8:56 am
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In article <13jvs5h34ljp4e8@corp.supernews.com>, DemoDisk wrote:
>
>"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:MaP%i.2677$Jy1.2233@trndny02...
>> GOING bankrupt? where the hell have you been? we've been bankrupt
>for
>> YEARS.
>
>Debt is the place to be nowdays. Go into debt if you think you can stay
>afloat; pay the debts with cheaper dollars. That's why they always talk
>about the price of oil being (until ~recently) no higher than before the
>70's. Oil goes up, prices go up, salaries and wages go up, and
>everything's the same.
>
>Too bad, though, for people on fixed incomes, and people who built up
>savings. They get screwed.

Oil goes up bigtime, gasoline goes up bigtime, health insurance goes up
bigtime, milk goes up bigtime, college tuition goes up bigtime, and 80% of
the USA population has income largely limited to the official inflation
rate while the other 20% gets raises big enough to make average income
outpace the official inflation rate by 1.5-2% a year.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Bernard Levin - The Times (30792)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 17 2007 11:24 pm
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Fanatic's Fare for the Common Man

Certainty level: 90%

The article reproduced below was penned by Bernard Levin
for the Features section of the Times on 21 September 1991. To my mind, it
described the situation at the time and in particular a recent meeting with
a friend, during which I for the first time admitted to someone other than
my GP that I had been subjected to a conspiracy of harassment over the
previous year and a half.

There is a madman running loose about London, called David Campbell; I have
no reason to believe that he is violent, but he should certainly be
approached with caution. You may know him by the curious glitter in his
eyes and a persistent trembling of his hands; if that does not suffice, you
will find him attempting to thrust no fewer than 48 books into your arms,
all hardbacks, with a promise that, if you should return to the same
meeting-place next year, he will heave another 80 at you.

If, by now, the police have arrived and are keeping a close watch on him,
you may feel sufficiently emboldened to examine the books. The jackets are
a model of uncluttered typography, elegantly and simply laid out; there is
an unobtrusive colophon of a rising sun, probably not picked at random.
Gaining confidence - the lunatic is smiling by now, and the policemen, who
know about such things, have significantly removed their helmets - you
could do worse than take the jacket off the first book in the pile. The
only word possible to describe the binding is sumptuous; real cloth in a
glorious shade of dark green, with the title and author in black and gold
on the spine.

Look at it more closely; your eyes do not deceive you - it truly does have
real top-bands and tail-bands, in yellow, and, for good measure, a silk
marker ribbon in a lighter green. The paper is cream-wove and acid-free,
and the book is sewn, not glued.

Throughout the encounter, I should have mentioned, our loony has been
chattering away, although what he is trying to say is almost impossible to
understand; after a time, however, he becomes sufficiently coherent to make
clear that he is trying to sell the books to you. Well, now, such quality
in bookmaking today can only be for collectors' limited editions at a
fearsome price - £30, £40, £50?

No, no, he says, the glitter more powerful than ever and the trembling of
his hands rapidly spreading throughout his entire body; no, no - the books
are priced variously at £7, £8 or £9, with the top price £12.

At this, the policemen understandably put their helmets back on; one of
them draws his truncheon and the other can be heard summoning
reinforcements on his walkie-talkie. The madman bursts into tears, and
swears it is all true.

And it is.

David Campbell has acquired the entire rights to the whole of the
Everyman's Library, which died a lingering and shameful death a decade or
so ago, and he proposes to start it all over again - 48 volumes this
September and 80 more next year, in editions I have described, at the
prices specified. He proposes to launch his amazing venture simultaneously
in Britain and the United States, with the massive firepower of Random
Century at his back in this country, and the dashing cavalry of Knopf
across the water, and no one who loves literature and courage will forbear
to cheer.

At the time this article was written I had believed for some time that
columnists in the Times and other journalists had been making references to
my situation. Nothing unusual about this you may think, plenty of people
have the same sort of ideas and obviously the papers aren't writing about
them, so why should my beliefs not be as false as those of others?

What makes this article so extraordinary is that three or four days
immediately preceding its publication, I had a meeting with a friend,
during the course of which we discussed the media persecution, and in
particular that by Times columnists. It seemed to me, reading the article
by Levin in Saturday's paper, that he was describing in some detail his
"artist's impression" of that meeting. Most telling are the final
sentences, when he writes, "The madman bursts into tears, and swears it is
all true. And it is." Although I did not "burst into tears" (he seems to be
using a bit of poetic licence and exaggerating) I did try hard to convince
my friend that it was all true; and I am able to concur with Mr Levin,
because, of course, it is.

At the beginning of the piece Levin reveals a fear of being attacked by the
"irrational" subject of his story, saying "I have no reason to believe that
he is violent, but he should certainly be approached with caution". This
goes back to the xenophobic propaganda of "defence" against a "threat"
which was seen at the very beginning of the harassment. The impression of a
"madman running loose" who needs to be controlled through an agency which
assigns to itself the mantle of the "police" is also one which had been
expressed elsewhere.

In the final paragraph of this extract, his reference to Everyman's Library
as having "died a lingering and shameful death a decade or so ago" shows
clearly what sort of conclusion they wish to their campaign. They want a
permanent solution, and as they are prevented from achieving that solution
directly, they waste significant resources on methods which have been
repeatedly shown to be ineffective for such a purpose.

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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Come back, Norma! (32967)
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Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 1:29 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Private Eye, 23 Oct 1992

Certainty level: 25%

I'm not really sure whether this cover was intended to get at me,
or whether it was re-interpreted after publication to be about me.
This issue of Private Eye came out in October 1992, by which time I had
been under severe continuous pressure at work and from the general
population in Oxford for many months. It had John Major saying to his
wife, "Come back, Norma!" under the title "Major's support lowest ever".

There's a story behind this. In late October I was in the local pub
(the Rose and Crown, nice traditional name eh) with two people from
work, Simon and Phil. Phil had with him a copy of the current Private
Eye. These are both "nice people" and on my side, I hasten to add.
Simon pointed out the message on the magazine's cover to Phil, and asked
"what do you think about that". Phil answered, "Well usually they
[Private Eye] get it right". This exchange happened in front of me.
Although I was ill at the time (this was before I'd started taking
medicines) I hadn't read anything into the Eye cover until these guys
pointed it out to me.

Sometime later, again in the same road, a student shouted to
one of his friends, "so when are you COMING BACK?", again in front
of me.

What I realised Phil thought it meant was a double-entendre, the
"coming" referring to the act of ejaculation, the "back" referring
to the human back-side. So in a play on words you get a person who
is referred to as a back-side ejaculating. Charming.

Of course, Phil could have been wrong. Perhaps there was no such meaning
intended by Private Eye. Perhaps he saw meaning which wasn't there.
Perhaps the moon is made from green cheese. Who knows?

32967

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Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 5:56 am
From: A Veteran

What has made some people cry ³conspiracy² (wrongly in my view) is that
Liberty Dollar has been doing this for years and only gets shut down on
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Of course its not a conspiracy, its just a plain old fashion abuse of
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 8:14 am
From: Derald

Except for (possibly) whether those folks' bogus bucks are "money",
what is the issue? AFAICT, that's just another bunch of loonies who act
as if only those parts of the Constitution with which they agree apply
to them. The woods are full of them. Sometimes they even get elected to
office or get put on the payroll of some dolt who does (wink, wink).

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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Victor Lewis-Smith (35142)
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Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 2:32 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Victor Lewis-Smith

Certainty level: 10%

Victor Lewis-Smith has issued a denial through his webmaster
John Hayward-Warburton regarding this article; he says quite categorically
it's not written about me. I kind-of sort-of believe him, but I think
the conspiracy is so wide that the phrase "Eventually, I had to leave
because they were all trying to kill me" could have been intended to be
as if from any paranoid person, but could have been influenced by my
case in the particular. So the influence could have been sort-of
subconscious.

This article is from the Evening Standard of Thursday May 8, 1997.
It is titled "Goon, and best forgotten" and may be found on page 31.

I think VLS has written/produced stuff specifically about me in the past,
both in his Evening Standard column, one of which is reproduced below
(in another case, he was talking about computer hacking, and I think that
was directed at me), and a television programme in around late 1993
when he has a taxi driver who says "they're all trying to kill me guv"
and VLS responds "you're supposed to be quite intelligent aren't you".

However, his webmaster has issued a formal denial on his behalf, so it
is not for me to oppose what he has stated categorically.

35142

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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Introduction to Sent Faxes (342)
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Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 4:25 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Introduction to the Sent Faxes webpages

Between 1998 and April/2000 I sent some thirty articles on the subject of the MI5 Persecution to
British politicians, media, legal and diplomatic entities in the UK. Of those articles 24 are reproduced
on this part of the website. They were originally composed as Microsoft Word documents, and saved to HTML
form for publication here. A few of them were slightly edited in format for readability.

You will see that these articles cover quite comprehensively what has been going on since 1990, there being
quite a lot of material to cover, since it is a rare week that goes by without MI5 making some harassing
or threatening action against me. "How could it be True?"... they use the mental illness which they induced
in me as a ready explanation for my complaints. Who started it, why did it start, why it continues...
these faxed articles provide examination in more depth of the treatment in the Frequently Asked Questions webpages.
The sheer meaninglessness of the Secret Police actions is highlighted; their operatives make their livelihoods
by cynically exploiting the taxpayers, when in a more responsible country they would be looking at the inside of
prison cells.

The validity of this observation is proven by their reaction to my several suggestions in the articles that I
would cease sending faxes if MI5's agents (and it's always the same people doing the persecution) desisted from
continually harassing me. A number of times, you will see in the faxed articles, I have suggested that
we come to a "peace of mind agreement" where I cease complaining and they cease harassing. On one occasion,
I wrote to Hugh S.-W., the director of OCTS where I was employed in 1992-94 and who is aware of the
circumstances, asking that he intercede to bring this matter to a close, by initiating a meeting between
myself and the persecutors to mutually settle our differences; he didn't reply, but MI5 did
soon after - they said "This is what you wanted, wasn't it?, some sort of confrontation?".
The reality is the people stalking me are not interested in any settlement; for them crime pays, and
pays handsomely; moreover it is State-approved crime; the Police will never investigate or take action;
it is corruption on an incredible level and scale, and it has gone on for over a decade.

You will see that the articles contain three elements; firstly, there are original written articles,
many in the first half of 1999 when I was writing new articles every week and sending them by email and
fax during the weekend; then there are "MI5 Persecution Update" articles, which list happenings recent to
a particular transmission; and finally there is the "old faithful" Frequently Asked Questions article
which was sent on a few occasions during the three year period. These articles generated a number of
interesting responses from politicians and other recipients, many of which are documented in the
"received faxes" area of these webpages.

I hope you enjoy reading these articles. I'm not as angry as these articles necessarily make out,
only sometimes, usually soon after the persecutors have said something unpleasant at me; the purpose
of putting lots of fire and ire into the mix is to try to chuck it into the public domain which might
lead to MI5 being forced to curb their actions. Unfortunately that aim was not achieved, despite
many, many thousands of faxes being sent. Also, if any policemen are reading this, then I'm (a bit) sorry
about the rude things I said about "the Bill" in one or two of the articles; the police have never done me
any harm (yet) by commission, only by omission of doing anything to investigate my complaints or treat
them seriously.

342

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TOPIC: 11% inflation
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/305989c06e5c1309?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 9:09 am
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In article <MPG.21a960e466e5fefa989dce@nntp.aioe.org>,
Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG wrote:
>In article <07OdnUOchozp0qPanZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net says...
>>
>> <http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1532573220071115>
>>
>> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. consumers will pay 11 percent more for the
>> traditional Thanksgiving meal this year, due in part to higher energy
>> costs, the American Farm Bureau Federation said on Thursday.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> How do the official inflation figures stay so low? Food, gas, health
>> care, travel, all shooting up in price.
>
>
>Easy - just don't include the food or energy when calculating the
>official inflation rate.

The official CPI includes food and energy, and there is a separate "core
rate" excluding food and energy.

Now, reasons why the CPI underrepresents inflation:

Calculate the official inflation rate with full weighting of only what
all consumers pay entirely out of their own pocket. So if anyone has any
health insurance premiums paid by employers or tax money, then the price
of health insurance has reduced weighting on the consumer price index.

Same deal with college tuition - some of that is paid by tax money (Pell
grants, etc.) Employers and Treasury bond buyers are subsidizing
obscurement of these two hyperinflationary costs from the CPI.

Other tricks - like adding an item to the "consumer basket" after it had
a runup and is ripe for low inflation afterwards, like when mortgage
interest was added to the CPI basket during the Reagan Administration at a
time when interest rates were higher than ever afterwards.
And whatever the Boskin Commission got in for CPI definition updating
when the media was concentrating on Monica Lewinsky stuff instead.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Faxes Sent to Diplomatic/Legal (2517)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/35c1acdd802f0a11?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 5:29 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Faxes Sent to British Diplomatic/Legal logs

During the 1998-2000 period my records indicate that I sent at least 3,642 faxes to diplomatic and legal offices
located in the British isles, of which 3,345 went via TPC's email-to-fax service and 297 were sent via fax-modem
direct from my computer. The actual figure is somewhat higher since, for most of this period, whenever a recipient
asked to be deleted from my mailing list, I totally wiped all entries including that from the logfile.

In the records "Y" indicates successful transmission from fax-modem, "N" indicates failed transmission from fax-modem.
"E" indicates an error occurred while transmitting via fax-modem and a fax may have been only partly transmitted.
"y" and "n" indicate success or failure via TPC.

In April 2000 I changed the method of operation by recording "R" when a recipient requested removal, rather than
wiping their details from my mailing list and records; and keeping "B" records for when TPC actioned a ban on a
recipient's fax-number, but the recipient did not write to ask me to cease faxing. The purpose of these changes
was to keep more accurate and complete records, but the intention was thwarted by the police complaint.

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No faxes were sent after April 2000.

2517

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TOPIC: 2 cool vids from wired science
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7ffcfbf90279ad10?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 10:12 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/video/231-touchtable.html

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/video/86-photosynth+segment.html

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TOPIC: MI5 Persecution: Faxes Sent to Media1 (4692)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2dfe022d98b02367?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 18 2007 7:08 am
From: MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk

Faxes Sent to British Media logs

During the 1998-2000 period my records indicate that I sent at least 6,137 faxes to the British media,
of which 5,775 went via TPC's email-to-fax service and 362 were sent via fax-modem direct from my computer.
The actual figure is obviously higher since, for most of this period, whenever a recipient asked to be deleted
from my mailing list, I totally wiped all entries including that from the logfile.

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