Wednesday, September 3, 2008

25 new messages in 8 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* Rado Integral 18kt Yellow Gold Platinum-tone Ceramic Ladies Watch R20383232
Recommendation Discount Watches - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8e94efef853f7c99?hl=en
* AIR Jordan Shoes, AIR Shox NZ, Nike Dunk SB - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/426caf1f5c96aa69?hl=en
* Air Jordan Fusion, AIR Force 1, Nike AIR MAX 97 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fd89f2ecf5c7095a?hl=en
* buying old meat from supermarket - 14 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3fa9fe4b1c206b1a?hl=en
* GOP convention mecca of clean-cut White people. Compare to Dem's assortment
of negros, mestizoes, gays. - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/eef038a8276af111?hl=en
* RIP Bobbi Sanchez - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a3ef1cf02aaa72c4?hl=en
* REQUIRED Sybase developer w VB6 & Financial - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/62165fa30de1beaa?hl=en
* Stupid Nazi tricks: After discrimination against African-American renters
and making threats to an attorney, Neo Nazi landlord puts houses on market - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6c8c9fbc33a475c5?hl=en

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TOPIC: Rado Integral 18kt Yellow Gold Platinum-tone Ceramic Ladies Watch R
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 2 2008 11:59 pm
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TOPIC: AIR Jordan Shoes, AIR Shox NZ, Nike Dunk SB
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Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 12:10 am
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Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 12:11 am
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TOPIC: buying old meat from supermarket
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3fa9fe4b1c206b1a?hl=en
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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 1:22 am
From: "John Whitworth"

"Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:z1jvk.9075$cn7.3454@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
> Now the question is " How well do you tolerate an aged steak?"

Ah...but '21-day matured' is more psychologically comforting! ;-)

== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 6:46 am
From: Omelet


In article <Hshvk.9067$cn7.4395@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com>,
"Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:

> I use the "SHORT CODE" ( at the sell by date) marked down meat all the time
> & have for years.
>
> Dimitri

If I purchase marked down meat (reduced for "quick sale"), I'll never
freeze it. I will cook it the same day so only purchase enough for
quick use.

Seems to work out ok...
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 8:48 am
From: "JonquilJan"


I check out the 'managers specials' on Sundays when I do most of my grocery
shopping. Since I eat poultry and seafood - seldom see any items on sale -
except ground turkey and/or ground turkey patties. I have found when I use
them that day or the next - have no digestive problems. YMMV

As for not eating beef/pork/etc - suggested to me many years ago I try
eliminating them to help ease the many aches and pains I was having (I am
disabled and have problems in that area). Tried it - and got some relief.
Thought it was all psychological - but a few years ago came across a
reference of a study done in Britain that found less joint pain among those
who didn't eat beef or mutton. But they couldn't figure out why. Neither
can I but I continue with the poultry and seafood only as it seems to help
me - but I don't know why either.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying


== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 9:24 am
From: "Dimitri"

"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ompomelet-E23BBE.08460503092008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <Hshvk.9067$cn7.4395@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> "Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>> I use the "SHORT CODE" ( at the sell by date) marked down meat all the
>> time
>> & have for years.
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> If I purchase marked down meat (reduced for "quick sale"), I'll never
> freeze it. I will cook it the same day so only purchase enough for
> quick use.
>
> Seems to work out ok...
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the
> newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

I freeze it all the time - no problems.

A friend has a business that is based upon purchasing and re-selling short
code foods. - Their freezer is the size of my house.

Dimitri

== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 9:29 am
From: "Peter"

"TFM(R)" <hillbillyboy@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:48bd808a$0$23192$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>
>
> "john d hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g9jujd$p1b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> As we know some people have a greater density of taste buds built into
>> their tongues. I have less, but my wife and son have more than i do and
>> they can detect subtle food flavours that I cannot.
>>
>> Tescos in North London U.K. sometime do meat in their 'reduced price'
>> section. The other day I got some really good beef and lamb which was
>> slightly 'darker' coloured from this section at about 1/4 of the normal
>> price. I fried it up and enjoyed it and put the rest in the freezer.
>>
>> Other members of the family thought this was truly awful. My view is
>> that although if you smell it closely, it is different; but that it is
>> basically just a bit of *oxizidation* and it does not effect the taste.
>> Years ago they used to hang up 'game' outside for weeks.
>>
>> Views on this really seem to divide people. But I cannot believe that a
>> big store like Tesco would continue to sell this very slightly off
>> coloured meat, if it represented any health risk.
>> Any comments on this please, whether one can safetly consume such meat?
>>
>>
>
>
> "Reduced for quick sale" is my favorite cut of meat. I've eaten it for
> decades.
>
> If it stinks when you open it, let it breathe a while. If it still stinks
> after a few minutes, you be the judge. I've had a lot of 'fresh'
> cryovaced meat stink like hell right out of the package but then smell
> fresh as a daisy minutes later.
>
> I just finished eating some questionable ground lamb. First time I've
> ever had it. I'll update tomorrow if I become ill.
>
> Also, I've had fresh smelling meat emit a stench from Hell once I started
> cooking it. It's only happened a couple of times, but it went into the
> trash immediately.
>
>
> TFM(R)

I've had the 'fresh' be rank too. I've never had a problem with the reduced
for quick sale... unless it was fish. Eww.

The last time I bought a "fresh" duck with many days to go before the 'best
before', it seemed ok. I scored the skin, rubbed in some salt and paprika.
No problem, into the oven it goes. 20 minutes later my place smelled like
rotten duck, apparently rotting from the inside out.

I still had the receipt, so I called the grocery store and asked if I had to
bring them my partly cooked rotting duck that I had bought hours before,
they insisted. 5 layers of grocery bags to hold down the smell, and into
the trunk for a return.

== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 9:45 am
From: Nancy2


On Sep 2, 5:23 pm, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> "Nancy2" <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:13a6cf88-f209-4677-b9e7-d3e14e04a605@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Corse its safe, if it wasnt they wouldnt be selling it. There is a
> > significant taste difference
> > tho. And there may well be a significant difference in how tender the meat
> > is too.
>
> I think you give the sellers more credit than they deserve.
> Everybody's tolerance is different; I cannot eat beef older than a
> couple days; it makes me sick as a dog.
>
> I never buy old meat, regardless of the purveyor. OTOH, I don't buy
> much red meat anymore, anyway.
>
> N.
>
> Now the question is " How well do you tolerate an aged steak?"
>
> Dimitri

I don't eat much red meat anymore, like I said.

N.

== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 9:50 am
From: Nancy2


On Sep 2, 4:47 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> >>> Any comments on this please, whether one can safetly consume such meat?
> >> Corse its safe, if it wasnt they wouldnt be selling it. There
> >> is a significant taste difference tho. And there may well be
> >> a significant difference in how tender the meat is too.
> > I think you give the sellers more credit than they deserve.
>
> More fool you.
>
> > Everybody's tolerance is different; I cannot eat beef
> > older than a couple days; it makes me sick as a dog.
>
> Your problem. That wont be a safety issue, its purely psychological.
>
> > I never buy old meat, regardless of the purveyor.
> > OTOH, I don't buy much red meat anymore, anyway.
>
> Your problem.

I didn't say it was anyone else's problem, did I? My comments were
not made personally to YOU. I can't tolerate things that other people
can - it doesn't bother me, I was merely contributing to the thread.

As to trusting a purveyor because "they wouldn't sell it if it weren't
still o.k. to eat," that's an ignorant attitude - mistakes are made
every day.

I don't want to be on the receiving end of an error that can easily be
prevented, thank you. You are welcome to eat whatever you like. You
may even have my share of "used meat."

N.

== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 9:52 am
From: Nancy2


On Sep 2, 6:02 pm, "Dave" <no...@nohow.not> wrote:
> "Nancy2" <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
>
> news:13a6cf88-f209-4677-b9e7-d3e14e04a605@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Corse its safe, if it wasnt they wouldnt be selling it. There is a
>
> significant taste difference> tho. And there may well be a significant difference in how tender the meat
>
> is too.
>
> >I think you give the sellers more credit than they deserve.
> >Everybody's tolerance is different; I cannot eat beef older than a
> >couple days; it makes me sick as a dog.
>
> I take it you live on a ranch and slaughter your own beef? Otherwise, it's
> probably months old before it gets to the supermarket, where it sits for a
> week or longer before it is packaged. -Dave

Sorry, you would be wrong, because I'm here in beef/hog/chicken
country, and I can get truly fresh meat and poultry every day. I'm
sorry if you can't.

N.

== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 10:29 am
From: Omelet


In article <6Uyvk.20792$xZ.3639@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:

> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-E23BBE.08460503092008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <Hshvk.9067$cn7.4395@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> > "Dimitri" <Dimitri_C@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I use the "SHORT CODE" ( at the sell by date) marked down meat all the
> >> time
> >> & have for years.
> >>
> >> Dimitri
> >
> > If I purchase marked down meat (reduced for "quick sale"), I'll never
> > freeze it. I will cook it the same day so only purchase enough for
> > quick use.
> >
> > Seems to work out ok...
>
> I freeze it all the time - no problems.

Wasn't dissing it, it's just a personal choice.

>
> A friend has a business that is based upon purchasing and re-selling short
> code foods. - Their freezer is the size of my house.
>
> Dimitri

<lol> Do they go thru it all before it freezer burns?

I have to clean out my deep freeze about every three years and make dog
food. Fortunately, I'm in the habit of writing date on all frozen meats.

Too much stocking up for two people is a waste of money. May as well buy
fresh per meal.
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 10:30 am
From: Omelet


In article <TP6dnXbVVPXtJiPVnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Peter" <no@mail.com> wrote:

> "TFM(R)" <hillbillyboy@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:48bd808a$0$23192$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
> >
> >
> > "john d hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:g9jujd$p1b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >> As we know some people have a greater density of taste buds built into
> >> their tongues. I have less, but my wife and son have more than i do and
> >> they can detect subtle food flavours that I cannot.
> >>
> >> Tescos in North London U.K. sometime do meat in their 'reduced price'
> >> section. The other day I got some really good beef and lamb which was
> >> slightly 'darker' coloured from this section at about 1/4 of the normal
> >> price. I fried it up and enjoyed it and put the rest in the freezer.
> >>
> >> Other members of the family thought this was truly awful. My view is
> >> that although if you smell it closely, it is different; but that it is
> >> basically just a bit of *oxizidation* and it does not effect the taste.
> >> Years ago they used to hang up 'game' outside for weeks.
> >>
> >> Views on this really seem to divide people. But I cannot believe that a
> >> big store like Tesco would continue to sell this very slightly off
> >> coloured meat, if it represented any health risk.
> >> Any comments on this please, whether one can safetly consume such meat?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > "Reduced for quick sale" is my favorite cut of meat. I've eaten it for
> > decades.
> >
> > If it stinks when you open it, let it breathe a while. If it still stinks
> > after a few minutes, you be the judge. I've had a lot of 'fresh'
> > cryovaced meat stink like hell right out of the package but then smell
> > fresh as a daisy minutes later.
> >
> > I just finished eating some questionable ground lamb. First time I've
> > ever had it. I'll update tomorrow if I become ill.
> >
> > Also, I've had fresh smelling meat emit a stench from Hell once I started
> > cooking it. It's only happened a couple of times, but it went into the
> > trash immediately.
> >
> >
> > TFM(R)
>
>
>
> I've had the 'fresh' be rank too. I've never had a problem with the reduced
> for quick sale... unless it was fish. Eww.
>
> The last time I bought a "fresh" duck with many days to go before the 'best
> before', it seemed ok. I scored the skin, rubbed in some salt and paprika.
> No problem, into the oven it goes. 20 minutes later my place smelled like
> rotten duck, apparently rotting from the inside out.
>
> I still had the receipt, so I called the grocery store and asked if I had to
> bring them my partly cooked rotting duck that I had bought hours before,
> they insisted. 5 layers of grocery bags to hold down the smell, and into
> the trunk for a return.

Heh! Hope they were impressed...
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 10:51 am
From: "Peter"

"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ompomelet-99B2BC.12301503092008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <TP6dnXbVVPXtJiPVnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Peter" <no@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> "TFM(R)" <hillbillyboy@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:48bd808a$0$23192$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "john d hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message
>> > news:g9jujd$p1b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> >> As we know some people have a greater density of taste buds built into
>> >> their tongues. I have less, but my wife and son have more than i do
>> >> and
>> >> they can detect subtle food flavours that I cannot.
>> >>
>> >> Tescos in North London U.K. sometime do meat in their 'reduced price'
>> >> section. The other day I got some really good beef and lamb which was
>> >> slightly 'darker' coloured from this section at about 1/4 of the
>> >> normal
>> >> price. I fried it up and enjoyed it and put the rest in the freezer.
>> >>
>> >> Other members of the family thought this was truly awful. My view is
>> >> that although if you smell it closely, it is different; but that it
>> >> is
>> >> basically just a bit of *oxizidation* and it does not effect the
>> >> taste.
>> >> Years ago they used to hang up 'game' outside for weeks.
>> >>
>> >> Views on this really seem to divide people. But I cannot believe that
>> >> a
>> >> big store like Tesco would continue to sell this very slightly off
>> >> coloured meat, if it represented any health risk.
>> >> Any comments on this please, whether one can safetly consume such
>> >> meat?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > "Reduced for quick sale" is my favorite cut of meat. I've eaten it for
>> > decades.
>> >
>> > If it stinks when you open it, let it breathe a while. If it still
>> > stinks
>> > after a few minutes, you be the judge. I've had a lot of 'fresh'
>> > cryovaced meat stink like hell right out of the package but then smell
>> > fresh as a daisy minutes later.
>> >
>> > I just finished eating some questionable ground lamb. First time I've
>> > ever had it. I'll update tomorrow if I become ill.
>> >
>> > Also, I've had fresh smelling meat emit a stench from Hell once I
>> > started
>> > cooking it. It's only happened a couple of times, but it went into the
>> > trash immediately.
>> >
>> >
>> > TFM(R)
>>
>>
>>
>> I've had the 'fresh' be rank too. I've never had a problem with the
>> reduced
>> for quick sale... unless it was fish. Eww.
>>
>> The last time I bought a "fresh" duck with many days to go before the
>> 'best
>> before', it seemed ok. I scored the skin, rubbed in some salt and
>> paprika.
>> No problem, into the oven it goes. 20 minutes later my place smelled
>> like
>> rotten duck, apparently rotting from the inside out.
>>
>> I still had the receipt, so I called the grocery store and asked if I had
>> to
>> bring them my partly cooked rotting duck that I had bought hours before,
>> they insisted. 5 layers of grocery bags to hold down the smell, and into
>> the trunk for a return.
>
> Heh! Hope they were impressed...


I warned them when I got there that it was pretty rank and they may not want
to open it where customers walk by. They seemed to trust that I was not
trying to rip them off, didn't open the 5 bags, and gave me my refund.

== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 11:01 am
From: Omelet


In article <ZYednek_m9wmUyPVnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Peter" <no@mail.com> wrote:

> > Heh! Hope they were impressed...
>
>
> I warned them when I got there that it was pretty rank and they may not want
> to open it where customers walk by. They seemed to trust that I was not
> trying to rip them off, didn't open the 5 bags, and gave me my refund.

Smart thinking.

Reminds me of the time I shipped some hatching eggs vis USPS priority
mail...

and it took 3 weeks for them to arrive rather than the promised 3 days.

2 trashbags were not enough according to the recipient. <g>

First time I ever got an uncontested refund from the post office...
--
Peace! Om

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." --Mark Twain

== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 12:13 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Nancy2 <nancy-dooley@uiowa.edu> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote

>>>>> Any comments on this please, whether one can safetly consume such meat?

>>>> Corse its safe, if it wasnt they wouldnt be selling it. There
>>>> is a significant taste difference tho. And there may well be
>>>> a significant difference in how tender the meat is too.

>>> I think you give the sellers more credit than they deserve.

>> More fool you.

>>> Everybody's tolerance is different; I cannot eat beef
>>> older than a couple days; it makes me sick as a dog.

>> Your problem. That wont be a safety issue, its purely psychological.

>>> I never buy old meat, regardless of the purveyor.
>>> OTOH, I don't buy much red meat anymore, anyway.

>> Your problem.

> I didn't say it was anyone else's problem, did I?

I didn't say you did, did I ?

> My comments were not made personally to YOU.

I didn't say you did, did I ?

> I can't tolerate things that other people can

Your neurotic problems are your problem.

> - it doesn't bother me, I was merely contributing to the thread.

Nope, dropping a steaming turd in it, actually.

> As to trusting a purveyor because "they wouldn't sell it
> if it weren't still o.k. to eat," that's an ignorant attitude

Nope.

> - mistakes are made every day.

Using that mindlessly silly line, you'd never ever buy anything.

> I don't want to be on the receiving end of an error that can easily be prevented, thank you.

Using that mindlessly silly line, you'd never ever buy anything.

> You are welcome to eat whatever you like.

I am indeed.

> You may even have my share of "used meat."

There is no share, stupid.


== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 12:14 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Nancy2 <nancy-dooley@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> On Sep 2, 5:23 pm, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> "Nancy2" <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
>>
>> news:13a6cf88-f209-4677-b9e7-d3e14e04a605@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> Corse its safe, if it wasnt they wouldnt be selling it. There is a
>>> significant taste difference
>>> tho. And there may well be a significant difference in how tender
>>> the meat is too.
>>
>> I think you give the sellers more credit than they deserve.
>> Everybody's tolerance is different; I cannot eat beef older than a
>> couple days; it makes me sick as a dog.
>>
>> I never buy old meat, regardless of the purveyor. OTOH, I don't buy
>> much red meat anymore, anyway.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> Now the question is " How well do you tolerate an aged steak?"
>>
>> Dimitri
>
> I don't eat much red meat anymore, like I said.

Then why should anyone take any notice of your comments ?

I get it, you just love the sound of your own voice.



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TOPIC: GOP convention mecca of clean-cut White people. Compare to Dem's
assortment of negros, mestizoes, gays.
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 3:15 am
From: hpope@lycos.com


On Sep 3, 3:06 am, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
> Though the Democrats insist they are intellectuals fact is that
> without the moron negro vote they
> could not carry more than four or five states. (Maine, Vermont, New
> Hampshire, Washington, Oregon) Don't think for a minute that I
> support the GOP on many issues; environment, war in
> Iraq, energy, to name a few. But how can a White person support the
> Dems with their obvious
> pandering to those groups identified in thread's header?
>
> mitch

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 5:02 am
From: clams_casino


hpope@lycos.com wrote:

>On Sep 3, 3:06 am, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
>
>
>>Though the Democrats insist they are intellectuals fact is that
>>without the moron negro vote they
>>could not carry more than four or five states. (Maine, Vermont, New
>>Hampshire, Washington, Oregon) Don't think for a minute that I
>>support the GOP on many issues; environment, war in
>>Iraq, energy, to name a few. But how can a White person support the
>>Dems with their obvious
>>pandering to those groups identified in thread's header?
>>
>>mitch
>>
>>
>
>
>
Fifth-grade drop out? Or is English not your first language?

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 6:55 am
From: Captain Crunch


clams_casino wrote:
> hpope@lycos.com wrote:
>
>> On Sep 3, 3:06 am, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Though the Democrats insist they are intellectuals fact is that
>>> without the moron negro vote they
>>> could not carry more than four or five states. (Maine, Vermont, New
>>> Hampshire, Washington, Oregon) Don't think for a minute that I
>>> support the GOP on many issues; environment, war in
>>> Iraq, energy, to name a few. But how can a White person support the
>>> Dems with their obvious
>>> pandering to those groups identified in thread's header?
>>>
>>> mitch
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> Fifth-grade drop out? Or is English not your first language?

He has to write like that to reach the lowest common denominator - The
Democrats.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 11:28 am
From: Jeff


clams_casino wrote:
> hpope@lycos.com wrote:
>
>> On Sep 3, 3:06 am, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Though the Democrats insist they are intellectuals fact is that
>>> without the moron negro vote they
>>> could not carry more than four or five states. (Maine, Vermont, New
>>> Hampshire, Washington, Oregon) Don't think for a minute that I
>>> support the GOP on many issues; environment, war in
>>> Iraq, energy, to name a few. But how can a White person support the
>>> Dems with their obvious
>>> pandering to those groups identified in thread's header?
>>>
>>> mitch
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> Fifth-grade drop out? Or is English not your first language?

More likely, just another member of the Republican faithful. Haven't you
noticed how low the Republican bar is?

Jeff

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 12:35 pm
From: "ChairMan"


In news:CtadnTtO3LT1SiPVnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@earthlink.com,
Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com>spewed forth:
> clams_casino wrote:
>> hpope@lycos.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 3, 3:06 am, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Though the Democrats insist they are intellectuals fact is that
>>>> without the moron negro vote they
>>>> could not carry more than four or five states. (Maine, Vermont, New
>>>> Hampshire, Washington, Oregon) Don't think for a minute that I
>>>> support the GOP on many issues; environment, war in
>>>> Iraq, energy, to name a few. But how can a White person support the
>>>> Dems with their obvious
>>>> pandering to those groups identified in thread's header?
>>>>
>>>> mitch
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Fifth-grade drop out? Or is English not your first language?
>
> More likely, just another member of the Republican faithful. Haven't
> you noticed how low the Republican bar is?
>
> Jeff

Not as low as democrats

What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
Democrat leadership. Isn't it amazing that for over 50 yrs now poor people
keep electing Democrats, and they are still poor! I believe it was Einstein
that said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over
again and expecting different results."

Here is the list.

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor
since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)....since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)...since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...since 1952;

Newark, NJ(10th)...since 1907.

It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats - yet they are still
disadvantaged...hmmm.

Also:

A bunch of hits on a Google search with all kinds of theory and info on why:

http://www.google.com/search?q=What+do+the+top+ten+cities+with+the+highest+poverty+rate+all+have+in+common%3F&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS225US225


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TOPIC: RIP Bobbi Sanchez
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 6:30 am
From: mike@nowhere.com (Mike)


On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Ragnar <Ragnarsghost@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Aug 28, 11:48 pm, m...@nowhere.com (Mike) wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Ragnar <Ragnarsgh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 27, 5:19 pm, SneakyP <inva...@invalidsneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> Ragnar <Ragnarsgh...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:2c25072c-43b9-4008-bbe4-
>> >> ab3ebbdef...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > On Aug 26, 8:57 pm, SneakyP <inva...@invalidsneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> m...@nowhere.com (Mike) wrote in news:20080826225559.A7BBC4E628
>> >> >> @outpost.zedz.net:
>>
>> >> >> > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, SneakyP <inva...@invalidsneakemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >>> You've become quite good at reading headers since your foray into
>> >> >> >>> sockpuppetry was documented.
>>
>> >> >> >>Links please.
>>
>> >> >> >http://tinyurl.com/6l8jf9
>>
>> >> >> Ah yes - Renee posts signed with "Ragnar". Thanks.
>>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> SneakyP
>> >> >> To reply: newsgroup only, what's posted in ng stays in ng.
>>
>> >> >> Some choose to swim in the potty bowl of nan-ae rather than flush it
>> >> >> down :0)
>>
>> >> > Ah yes, the ONE time I mistakenly posted through the wife's account
>> >> > from a year and a half ago surfaces again. Nice try defending your
>> >> > asshole troll buddies but you fail miserably.
>>
>> >> > BTW, it still doesn't change the fact that the OP is a sock puppet
>> >> > spawning clueless fucktard.
>>
>> >> > Ragnar
>>
>> >> There was no default X-No-Archive posting option on Google. Mistake?
>> >> Or, there was a cancel done on it?
>> >> Mistake #2?
>>
>> >> Wonder if those were the only "Renee" posts on google?
>>
>> >> Search on author. Hmmm......
>>
>> >> What will Ragnar say if there are no messages to find?
>>
>> >> Hmmmm.....
>>
>> >> This deserves more scruntiny.
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >Scruntize all you want fuckwit. The shit you are so feverishly digging
>> >up is over a year old, it's your time spent. If your life is that
>> >pathetic that you have time to look search for it, then have at it,
>> >moron. If this is the best you can do then you aren't worth my time.
>>
>> >As for the removals, so fucking what, big deal, I easased some posts
>> >that I mistakenly posted under the wrong account, and again it was
>> >done over a year ago. If you will search further you will find that
>> >many times I reposted them under the correct account once the error
>> >was recognized. But you propably will leave that tidbit of info out,
>> >because you are a dumbass troll.
>>
>> >Ragnar
>>
>> You claimed earlier, after you thought that you had erased all evidence
>> that you were posting under a sockpuppet, that you had mistakenly posted
>> from your wife's account "ONE time".
>>
>> From: Ragnar <Ragnarsgh...@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: RIP Bobbi Sanchez
>> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:37:04 -0700 (PDT)
>> Message-ID:
>> <2c25072c-43b9-4008-bbe4-ab3ebbdef...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>
>>
>> "Ah yes, the ONE time I mistakenly posted through the wife's account
>> from a year and a half ago surfaces again. Nice try defending your
>> asshole troll buddies but you fail miserably."
>>
>> Lie much? LOL.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>How may sock puppets have you spawned lately? I'm sure you'll say none
>but that's not really provable now is it?

That's pretty funny coming from a fatty fucking loser who was busted for
both sockpuppetry and lying. Too bad that your feeble attempt to erase the
evidence failed miserably. It sucks to be you, Ragtard.

Go feed your fat cunt wife another chocolate cake. Feeder much? LOL.



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TOPIC: REQUIRED Sybase developer w VB6 & Financial
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 11:40 am
From: Sabitha

Position: Sybase developer w VB6 & Financial
Duration: 6 month +
Location: NY, New York

Description:

1. VB 6
2. Sybase 12.5
3. Perl
4. CSH / KSH
5. Third party controls. Specifically Crystal Reports 8.5 or higher.
Knowledge of Farpoint Spread control and Farpoint Input Pro is a plus.
6. Some experience with P&L systems or any financial systems.
7. Basic knowledge of various financial instruments ie stocks /
bonds / derivatives etc..


Thanks

Sabitha
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TOPIC: Stupid Nazi tricks: After discrimination against African-American
renters and making threats to an attorney, Neo Nazi landlord puts houses on
market
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6c8c9fbc33a475c5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 3 2008 12:32 pm
From: ultimauw@hotmail.com


http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/04/03/under-pressure-neo-nazi-landlord-puts-properties-on-market/

Under Pressure, Neo-Nazi Landlord Puts Properties on Market

Under Pressure, Neo-Nazi Landlord Puts Properties on Market
Posted in Anti-Semitic, Extremist Commerce, Hate Groups, Hate on
Campus, Neo-Nazi by Brentin Mock on April 3, 2008

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Bill White real estateBill White has a duplex to sell you. Make that
17 duplexes. The neo-Nazi landlord has put the bulk of his Roanoke,
Va., real estate holdings on the market, Hatewatch has learned. Asking
price: a cool $2 million.

Although White has complained recently about subprime financing woes,
it's unclear exactly what's motivating this sudden move, and whether
it's related to the American National Socialist Workers Party (ANSWP)
chairman's rapidly developing legal troubles, as reported today in the
Virginian-Pilot.

White is facing possible fines and jail time as a sanction for posting
threatening comments along with the home address and telephone number
of Kevin Mottley, an attorney with the Richmond, Va., law firm
Troutman Sanders (or, as White describes him, "the attorney
representing the niggers in Virginia Beach.")

On April 2, White was forced to appear before U.S. Magistrate F.
Bradford Stillman to explain why he was publishing thinly veiled
threats against Mottley, along with the attorney's personal
information. The magistrate did not say when he would announce any
sanctions against White.

Mottley is part of a team of lawyers representing five African-
American tenants in Virginia Beach who sued their landlord, John
Crockett Henry, alleging a long pattern of racial discrimination. The
tenants also filed a complaint with the U.S. Justice Department, which
is now investigating Henry and his connections to White, who mailed
threatening letters to Henry's tenants, calling them "niggers" and
"dirty parasites" and warning them to watch out for white activists.
White also mailed copies of National Socialist, a neo-Nazi publication
he edits, to their homes.< snip >

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