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TOPIC: Hussein Obama's First 10 Executive Orders
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 14 2008 10:01 pm
From: "ChairMan"
In news:gd33js$8kl$1@panix2.panix.com,
William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com>spewed forth:
> In article <48f4a8fc$0$9266$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> "ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> said:
>
>>>> nobama and pelosi have already met and plan to call a special
>>>> session immediately after the election in hopes of passing
>>>> legislation to spend almost $150 billion in extended benefits.
>>>
>>> You do realize that on the day after the election Barack Obama will
>>> still be a Senator, and not one in a position to call any special
>>> sessions, right?
>>
>> Pelosi can and will, do try to keep up.
>> Did you even read the article?
>
> Yup. I also read the part where you said "nobama and pelosi have
> already met and plan to call a special session immediately after the
> election".
>
> -- wds
I wrote it, they said it
http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/3719193
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 14 2008 10:01 pm
From: "ChairMan"
In news:dD9Jk.1047$Rx2.566@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,
TruthTeller@nospam.net <TruthTeller@nospam.net>spewed forth:
> In <gd33js$8kl$1@panix2.panix.com>, on 10/14/2008
> at 05:40 PM, wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) said:
>
>
>
>> In article <48f4a8fc$0$9266$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>> "ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> said:
>
>>>>> nobama and pelosi have already met and plan to call a special
>>>>> session immediately after the election in hopes of passing
>>>>> legislation to spend almost $150 billion in extended benefits.
>>>>
>>>> You do realize that on the day after the election Barack Obama will
>>>> still be a Senator, and not one in a position to call any special
>>>> sessions, right?
>>>
>>> Pelosi can and will, do try to keep up.
>>> Did you even read the article?
>
>> Yup. I also read the part where you said "nobama and pelosi have
>> already met and plan to call a special session immediately after the
>> election".
>
>
> Well she has the right to call one. What's your problem with
> correcting the right wing mess ASAP!
>
right wing mess?
"I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform
Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE
regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers
will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie
Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the
economy as a whole."
-- Sen. John McCain (R) 5/25/2006
"I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis"
-- Rep. Barney Frank (D) 9/10/2003
The more people, in my judgment, exaggerate a threat of safety and
soundness, the more people conjure up the possibility of serious financial
losses to the Treasury, which I do not see. I think we see entities that are
fundamentally sound financially and withstand some of the disaster
scenarios.
-- Rep. Barney Frank (D) 9/10/2003
Secretary Martinez, if it ain't broke, why do you want to fix it? Have the
GSEs ever missed their housing goals?
-- Rep. Maxine Waters (D) 9/10/2003
"Mr. Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and in particular at
Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Mr. Frank Raines. Everything
in the 1992 act has worked just fine. In fact, the GSEs have exceeded their
housing goals. What we need to do today is to focus on the regulator, and
this must be done in a manner so as not to impede their affordable housing
mission, a mission that has seen innovation flourish from desktop
underwriting to 100 percent loans."
-- Rep. Maxine Waters (D) 9/25/2003
I have sat through nearly a dozen hearings where, frankly, we were trying to
fix something that wasn't broke.
-- Rep. Maxine Waters (D) 9/25/2003
"I think it is clear that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are sufficiently secure
so they are in no great danger... I don't think we face a crisis; I don't
think that we have an impending disaster. ...Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do
very good work, and they are not endangering the fiscal health of this
country."
-- Rep. Barney Frank (D) 9/25/2003
"I=3Fm just pissed off at OFHEO [Office of Federal Housing Enterprise
Oversight], because if it wasn=3Ft for you, I don=3Ft think we=3Fd be here
in the
first place. =3F There=3Fs been nothing that indicated that=3Fs wrong with
Fannie
Mae, Freddie Mac has come up on its own =3F The question that then comes up
is
the competence that your agency has with reference to deciding and
regulating these GSEs."
-- Rep. Gregory Meeks (D) 9/25/2003
=3FCongressman, OFHEO did not improperly apply accounting rules; Freddie Mac
did. OFHEO did not try to manage earnings improperly; Freddie Mac did. So
this isn't about the agency's engagement in improper conduct, it is about
Freddie Mac.=3F
-- OFHEO Director Armando Falcon Jr. 9/25/2003
And my worry is that we're using the recent safety and soundness concerns,
particularly with Freddie, and with a poor regulator, as a straw man to
curtail Fannie and Freddie's mission. And I don't think there is any doubt
that there are some in the administration who don't believe in Fannie and
Freddie altogether, say let the private sector do it.
-- Sen. Charles Schumer (D) 10/16/2003
"The Capital Markets Subcommittee meets today for the purpose of receipt of
a report from the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight. It is
indeed a very troubling report. But it is a report of extraordinary
importance, to those who wish to own a home, as well as the taxpayers of
this country who would pay the cost of cleanup."
-- Rep. Richard Baker (R) 10/6/2004
"I don=3Ft see anything in this report that raises safety and soundness
problems."
-- Rep. Barney Frank (D) 10/6/2004
"And you have about 3% of your portfolio set aside. If a bank gets below
4%, they are in deep trouble. So I just want you to explain to me why I
should be satisfied with 3%?"
-- Rep. Christopher Shays (R) 10/6/2004
"Because banks don't -- there aren't any banks who only have multifamily and
single-family loans. These assets are so riskless that their capital for
holding them should be under 2%."
-- Franklin Raines (D) 10/6/2004
"This hearing is about the political lynching of Franklin Raines."
-- Rep. Lacy Clay (D) 10/6/2004 (Clay, a black man, is implying that the
actual purpose of these reform hearings are to lynch another black man,
Raines)
"Congress needs to get them [Fannie and Freddie] reformed, get them
streamlined, get them focused"
-- Pres. George W. Bush (R) 8/9/2007
"Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to
modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families
stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus
on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free
bonds to refinance sub-prime loans."
-- Pres. George W. Bush (R) 5/2008
"We need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."
-- Pres. George W. Bush (R) 6/2008
"I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in
resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress, or by me when I was
president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac."
-- Pres. Bill Clinton (D) 9/24/2008
Bill Clinton has just done a better job blaming the democrats for this than
John McCain has done! By the way, in 3 years Barack Obama managed to become
the number 2 recipient of Fannie/Freddie money, beaten only slightly by
Chris Dodd who had a 30 year head start. One of the reasons was Obama was
majorly involved in pushing subprime loans (suing banks for not making
loans, etc.) with ACORN during his community organizer days. Amazingly one
of the prime arsonists and biggest money recipient is succeeding in blaming
John McCain for the fire, is taking credit for helping to put out the fire,
and is being allowed to get away with it.
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 14 2008 10:01 pm
From: "ChairMan"
In news:OrudnWrRd_epymjVnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@earthlink.com,
HeyBub <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com>spewed forth:
> TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>>
>>> But after the election Obama will still be the junior senator from
>>> Illinois with no power to reconvene the Senate contrary to what the
>>> original poster claimed.
>>
>>
>> That was not the claim. The claim was that he had talked with the
>> speaker -- who does have the authority.
>>
>
> Not exactly. The Speaker can re-convene the House of Representatives,
> not the Congress. Once this august body gathers under Democratic
> control, they can do what they excelled at the past two years: naming
> post offices and issuing declarations proclaiming something or other
> about groundhogs.
In just one year . Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate
(stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with
what's handed to him.
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 14 2008 10:02 pm
From: "ChairMan"
In news:Rq-dnTwjy7BOWGnVnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@earthlink.com,
Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com>spewed forth:
> ChairMan wrote:
>> In news:7jl6f4ldenr79pkva926m7fv4tlva508p3@4ax.com,
>> jdoe <jdoe@aol.com>spewed forth:
>>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:14:42 GMT, aemeijers <aemeijers@att.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> wismel@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:18:13 -0400, TheTruth <no404@bellsouth.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hussein Obama's First 10 Executive Orders
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quotes from BarrackObama.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama enacts stronger "federal hate crimes legislation" to
>>>>>> "reinvigorate enforcement at the Department of Justice's Criminal
>>>>>> Section."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama creates "a fund to help people refinance their mortgages
>>>>>> and provide comprehensive supports to innocent homeowners."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama, following through on his pledge to "meet with the
>>>>>> leaders of
>>>>>> all nations, friend and foe," signs a non-agression pact with the
>>>>>> Hitler
>>>>>> of Iran.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama doubles foreign aid to $50 billion to cut "poverty around
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> world in half by 2015."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama removes our troops from Iraq, leaving a power vacuum
>>>>>> filled by Iran.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama enacts socialized medicine, destroying small businesses
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> taxes to pay for illegal alien healthcare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama enacts amnesty for illegal aliens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama enacts legislation demanding carbon friendly cars,
>>>>>> hammering the final nail in the coffin of the US car industry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Barack Obama enact laws to reinforce affirmative action by
>>>>>> funneling money to "women and minority-owned businesses."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama repeals the Bush tax cuts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> . Obama enacts the Employment Non-Discrimination Act to entrench
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> power of the homosexual lobby.
>>>>> Whaaaaaaaata jigaboo!
>>>>>
>>>>> ted
>>>> There are maybe 2 things on that list POTUS has any control over.
>>>> The rest are controlled by Congress.
>>> barrack hussein obama and a compliant congress, one that is leftist
>>> controlled, will almost certainly be able to do irreparable damage
>>
>>
>> nobama and pelosi have already met and plan to call a special session
>> immediately after the election in hopes of passing legislation to
>> spend almost $150 billion in extended benefits.
>
> You realize that that 150B is a small fraction of the 5T in debt
> that your fearless leader George W Bush and the Republican Congress
> ran up along with the largest increase in government in history.
Oh so in your mind as long as it's your guys adding to it it's okay.
150B here and 150B there and another
>
> Almost all of that "stimulus" is aimed at local and state
> governments who have been widely suffering. Not an insignificant
> amount but what happens if we fail to stop the failure of local
> governments to provide necessary services? I live in a red state and
> I can tell you that the state and many red run local governments are
> in serious trouble. This is a serious issue that will once again be
> ignored by George W Bush until it reaches catastrophe proportions.
> Past is prologue. Whether I will support that, I don't know, there is
> no bill.
Why are they suffering?
Could it be their own inability to balance a budget?
And why is the responsibility of the fed to fix it?
>
> Now for the bait, so we can see your true colors. What about these
> terrorists associations that are being made against Obama?
Lets see. Obama says Pastor Wright is no longer his buddy suddenly. Sudden
change of heart after such a long relationship. Hmmm.
Well that's OK. Wright is not without friends. He had a traveling buddy
named Farrakhan. Farrakhan has called Nobama the "Messiah" Back some time
ago they decided they needed a trip and
went to see another buddy overseas. This bud would be Muammar el-Qaddafi.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/us/politics/06obama.html
Qaddafi as you may recall is a spunky one. His ties include the
assassination of Prime Minister of Jordan as well as killing 11 athletes
during the Olympics in Munich. But I'm sure Wright's visit was to just show
Qaddafi there's a better path and Qaddafi bought right in.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California . He is very
open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was
wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply
himself to his studies.
Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two
roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan.
During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a
'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia , next
Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with
his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My
question: Where did he get the money for this trip? Neither I, nor any one
of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in
college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New
York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry.
Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia ? It's not cheap! to say the
least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After
Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000.
a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ? He was already living in New York .
By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real
estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery
this year. Rezko, was n amed 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the
Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years later,
Obama entered Harvard Law School . Do you have any idea what tuition is for
Harvard Law School ? Where did he get the money for Law School ? More
student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago . Rezko offered him
a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner,
Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented Rezar' which Rezko's firm.
Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for
office in Chicago.
In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune
reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with
'seed money' for his U. S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home
in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).
With ALL those Student Loans: where did he get the money for the property?
On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for
full price.
The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire
loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased.
Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President.
Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor
and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where
was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz , Iran ! Do we see a pattern here?
Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was
'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with
'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week,
buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during
Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war
until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in
Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign
contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle
class in this country. or could it be from the Middle East ?
And the final bit of news. On September 7,
2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week'
with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My
Muslim faith'. When questioned, he made a mistake'. Some mistake!
>What about
> the use of Hussein instead of his real first name?
What about it?
It's his real name.
Do have the same problem with what Palin, McCain or Bush have been called by
the left?
Keep in mind, what they have been called aren't even close to their "real"
names
>
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 14 2008 10:13 pm
From: George Grapman
ChairMan wrote:
> In news:OrudnWrRd_epymjVnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@earthlink.com,
> HeyBub <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com>spewed forth:
>> TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>>>> But after the election Obama will still be the junior senator from
>>>> Illinois with no power to reconvene the Senate contrary to what the
>>>> original poster claimed.
>>>
>>> That was not the claim. The claim was that he had talked with the
>>> speaker -- who does have the authority.
>>>
>> Not exactly. The Speaker can re-convene the House of Representatives,
>> not the Congress. Once this august body gathers under Democratic
>> control, they can do what they excelled at the past two years: naming
>> post offices and issuing declarations proclaiming something or other
>> about groundhogs.
>
> In just one year . Remember the election in 2006?
> Thought you might like to read the following:
> A little over one year ago:
>
>
> 1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
> 2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
> 3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
>
>
> Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
>
>
> 1) Consumer confidence plummet;
> 2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
> 3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
> 4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate
> (stock and mutual fund losses);
> 5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
> 6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
>
>
> America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
>
> Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with
> what's handed to him.
You forgot the part he has to sign a bill to make it a law.
>
>
>
>
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 14 2008 10:14 pm
From: George Grapman
ChairMan wrote:
> In news:OrudnWrRd_epymjVnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@earthlink.com,
> HeyBub <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com>spewed forth:
>> TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>>>> But after the election Obama will still be the junior senator from
>>>> Illinois with no power to reconvene the Senate contrary to what the
>>>> original poster claimed.
>>>
>>> That was not the claim. The claim was that he had talked with the
>>> speaker -- who does have the authority.
>>>
>> Not exactly. The Speaker can re-convene the House of Representatives,
>> not the Congress. Once this august body gathers under Democratic
>> control, they can do what they excelled at the past two years: naming
>> post offices and issuing declarations proclaiming something or other
>> about groundhogs.
>
> In just one year . Remember the election in 2006?
> Thought you might like to read the following:
> A little over one year ago:
>
>
> 1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
> 2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
> 3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
>
>
> Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
>
>
> 1) Consumer confidence plummet;
> 2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
> 3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
> 4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate
> (stock and mutual fund losses);
> 5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
> 6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
What were those figures in Jan.2001 compared to Jan.2007, a period of
total Republican control?
>
>
> America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
>
> Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with
> what's handed to him.
>
>
>
>
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 14 2008 11:03 pm
From: "Al.E. Gator Sr."
"ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> wrote in message
news:48f579d2$0$25086$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
> In news:nQIIk.638$Rx2.628@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,
> TruthTeller@nospam.net <TruthTeller@nospam.net>spewed forth:
>> In <7jl6f4ldenr79pkva926m7fv4tlva508p3@4ax.com>, on 10/13/2008
>> at 10:10 AM, jdoe <jdoe@aol.com> said:
>
> Bill Clinton has just done a better job blaming the democrats for this
> than
> John McCain has done! By the way, in 3 years Barack Obama managed to
> become
> the number 2 recipient of Fannie/Freddie money, beaten only slightly by
> Chris Dodd who had a 30 year head start.
nice try el shithead, all you hillbillies keep beating this point but none
of you will tell everyone how MUCH money it was,
so how about trying to be a MAN for once in your miserable, worthless,
hillbilly existence and give us some figures
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 14 2008 11:20 pm
From: Jeff
ChairMan wrote:
> In news:Rq-dnTwjy7BOWGnVnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@earthlink.com,
> Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com>spewed forth:
>> ChairMan wrote:
>>> In news:7jl6f4ldenr79pkva926m7fv4tlva508p3@4ax.com,
>>> jdoe <jdoe@aol.com>spewed forth:
>>>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:14:42 GMT, aemeijers <aemeijers@att.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> wismel@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:18:13 -0400, TheTruth <no404@bellsouth.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hussein Obama's First 10 Executive Orders
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quotes from BarrackObama.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama enacts stronger "federal hate crimes legislation" to
>>>>>>> "reinvigorate enforcement at the Department of Justice's Criminal
>>>>>>> Section."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama creates "a fund to help people refinance their mortgages
>>>>>>> and provide comprehensive supports to innocent homeowners."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama, following through on his pledge to "meet with the
>>>>>>> leaders of
>>>>>>> all nations, friend and foe," signs a non-agression pact with the
>>>>>>> Hitler
>>>>>>> of Iran.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama doubles foreign aid to $50 billion to cut "poverty around
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> world in half by 2015."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama removes our troops from Iraq, leaving a power vacuum
>>>>>>> filled by Iran.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama enacts socialized medicine, destroying small businesses
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> taxes to pay for illegal alien healthcare.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama enacts amnesty for illegal aliens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama enacts legislation demanding carbon friendly cars,
>>>>>>> hammering the final nail in the coffin of the US car industry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Barack Obama enact laws to reinforce affirmative action by
>>>>>>> funneling money to "women and minority-owned businesses."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama repeals the Bush tax cuts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . Obama enacts the Employment Non-Discrimination Act to entrench
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> power of the homosexual lobby.
>>>>>> Whaaaaaaaata jigaboo!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ted
>>>>> There are maybe 2 things on that list POTUS has any control over.
>>>>> The rest are controlled by Congress.
>>>> barrack hussein obama and a compliant congress, one that is leftist
>>>> controlled, will almost certainly be able to do irreparable damage
>>>
>>> nobama and pelosi have already met and plan to call a special session
>>> immediately after the election in hopes of passing legislation to
>>> spend almost $150 billion in extended benefits.
>> You realize that that 150B is a small fraction of the 5T in debt
>> that your fearless leader George W Bush and the Republican Congress
>> ran up along with the largest increase in government in history.
>
> Oh so in your mind as long as it's your guys adding to it it's okay.
> 150B here and 150B there and another
Where were you during the Medicare giveaway? Trillions have been
foolishly spent that only enriched the wealthy, in this case Drug Companies.
And there is nothing in the works but speculation. There is however
McCains 300 Billion mortgage giveaway. That's twice your speculative
figure. Why silent on that?
>
>
>> Almost all of that "stimulus" is aimed at local and state
>> governments who have been widely suffering. Not an insignificant
>> amount but what happens if we fail to stop the failure of local
>> governments to provide necessary services? I live in a red state and
>> I can tell you that the state and many red run local governments are
>> in serious trouble. This is a serious issue that will once again be
>> ignored by George W Bush until it reaches catastrophe proportions.
>> Past is prologue. Whether I will support that, I don't know, there is
>> no bill.
>
> Why are they suffering?
> Could it be their own inability to balance a budget?
> And why is the responsibility of the fed to fix it?
Have you missed that the economy is rapidly decelerating?
And there is no proposal only an agreement to look into what is
necessary. Irregardless some stimulus will be necessary or the already
decelerating economy will decelerate much faster.
Now clearly, if George W Bush hadn't taken a 230 Billion surplus and
left us with 5 trillion in additional debt this would have been much
easier to manage. And exactly who has been left better off under these
economic policies?
None of this would have happened with an administration that tended
to the business of government. The right wing has gotten absolutely
everything it wanted under a compliant George W Bush administration.
>
>> Now for the bait, so we can see your true colors. What about these
>> terrorists associations that are being made against Obama?
>
> Lets see. Obama says Pastor Wright is no longer his buddy suddenly. Sudden
> change of heart after such a long relationship. Hmmm.
Obama has completely disinherited the Reverand Wright. Nice speech on
that if you need me to dig it up.
Unlike the ties that Sara Palin and John McCain have:
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/10/20/081020taco_talk_hertzberg
For example, Todd Palin was a registered member of the Alaskan
Independence Party—to which his wife, as governor, has sent friendly
greetings—between 1995 and 2002. Four years before Todd joined, the
A.I.P.'s founder, Joe Vogler, declared, "The fires of hell are frozen
glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," and added,
referring to the Stars and Stripes, "I won't be buried under their
damned flag!" (Sure enough, in 1995, Vogler, after being murdered in
connection with an informal transaction involving plastic explosives,
was buried in Canada.) Good material for an attack ad there, no? Ditto
the fact that during the early nineteen-eighties John McCain sat on the
advisory board of General John Singlaub's U.S. Council for World
Freedom—the American outpost of the World Anti-Communist League, a sort
of clearing house for former Nazi collaborators, Central American
death-squad leaders, and assorted international thugs. And, unlike
Obama's alleged palship with Ayers, these things are true.
And it goes far beyond even that.
Is it that you support these fanatics that have such deep ties into
Palin?
It seems to me that you support the politics of hate. But then that's
just about all you have left.
Obviously there's ammunition to feed personal attacks on both sides.
Retiring Va Rep. Tom Davis (R) put it this way:
"The Republican brand is in the trash can. I've often observed that if
we were a dog food, they would take us off the shelf."
There really is nothing left on your side but personal innuendo. You
can't defend the direction the country has been taken under George W
Bush and there is no policy shift under McCain. Only more trickle down.
You can sell your dog food somewhere else. Even dogs don't like it.
Jeff
>
> Well that's OK. Wright is not without friends. He had a traveling buddy
> named Farrakhan. Farrakhan has called Nobama the "Messiah" Back some time
> ago they decided they needed a trip and
> went to see another buddy overseas. This bud would be Muammar el-Qaddafi.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/us/politics/06obama.html
>
> Qaddafi as you may recall is a spunky one. His ties include the
> assassination of Prime Minister of Jordan as well as killing 11 athletes
> during the Olympics in Munich. But I'm sure Wright's visit was to just show
> Qaddafi there's a better path and Qaddafi bought right in.
>
>
> Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California . He is very
> open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was
> wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply
> himself to his studies.
>
> Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two
> roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan.
> During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a
> 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia , next
> Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan where he stayed with
> his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My
> question: Where did he get the money for this trip? Neither I, nor any one
> of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in
> college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New
> York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry.
> Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia ? It's not cheap! to say the
> least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After
> Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000.
> a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ? He was already living in New York .
>
> By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real
> estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery
> this year. Rezko, was n amed 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the
> Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years later,
> Obama entered Harvard Law School . Do you have any idea what tuition is for
> Harvard Law School ? Where did he get the money for Law School ? More
> student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago . Rezko offered him
> a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner,
> Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented Rezar' which Rezko's firm.
> Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for
> office in Chicago.
>
> In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune
> reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with
> 'seed money' for his U. S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home
> in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).
> With ALL those Student Loans: where did he get the money for the property?
> On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for
> full price.
>
> The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire
> loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased.
> Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
>
> Now, we have Obama running for President.
>
> Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor
> and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where
> was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz , Iran ! Do we see a pattern here?
> Or am I going crazy?
>
> On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was
> 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with
> 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week,
> buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during
> Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war
> until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
>
> Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in
> Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign
> contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle
> class in this country. or could it be from the Middle East ?
>
> And the final bit of news. On September 7,
> 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week'
> with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My
> Muslim faith'. When questioned, he made a mistake'. Some mistake!
>
>
>
>
>
>> What about
>> the use of Hussein instead of his real first name?
>
> What about it?
> It's his real name.
> Do have the same problem with what Palin, McCain or Bush have been called by
> the left?
> Keep in mind, what they have been called aren't even close to their "real"
> names
>
>
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TOPIC: KFC 9.99 bucket
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Date: Tues, Oct 14 2008 10:14 pm
From: Jeff
JonL <JonL@Mayday.com> wrote in news:48F56745.9030500@Mayday.com:
> Seerialmom wrote:
>> On Oct 8, 8:54 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> How much would the raw chicken cost you at regular supermarket
>>> prices? At sale prices? Assume you cook regularly and have all the
>>> other stuff necessary for fried chicken so their cost is minor.
>>
>> I tend to roll my eyes at that commercial. Yes, if you had to buy all
>> the ingredients from scratch i.e. bag of flour, spices, baking
>> powder, bottle of oil, chicken, cabbage, carrots, potatoes, coleslaw
>> dressing (bottled or ingredients) corn cobs, it likely would exceed
>> $10. The same is true for most other fast foods. The other part of
>> that commercial says you can't do it because you wouldn't know what to
>> buy for the 11 secret spices.
>
> My unnamed source, at Penn State...or did he say State Penn...??
> claims this is it:
>
>
> Colonel Sanders' Secret Herbs and Spices
>
> 1 tablespoon rosemary
> 1 tablespoon oregano leaves
> 1 tablespoon powdered sage
> 1 tablespoon powdered ginger
> 1 teaspoon marjoram
> 1 1/2 teaspoons thyme
> 3 tablespoons dry minced parsley
> 1 teaspoon pepper
> 1 tablespoon paprika
> 2 tablespoons garlic salt
> 2 tablespoons onion salt
>
> 3 tablespoons brown sugar, packed
> 2 tablespoons powdered chicken bouillon
> 1 package Lipton Tomato Cup-a-Soup mix
>
>
> Place all ingredients in blender with on/off speed for 3 to 4 minutes to
> pulverize, or rub through a fine strainer. Store in an airtight
> container so it will not lose potency.
>
> Makes about 3/4 cup.
>
> To use with flour, add 1 ounce mix to 1 cup of flour for coating chicken.
I read once many years ago that The Colonel hinted that if you bought one
of those packets of Italian salad dressing mix (that you add to oil &
vinegar) you would have his "herbs and spices". That seems close to your
list.
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