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* HP has stop marking ink volume on the cartridge box - 1 messages, 1 author
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* a Victory Garden at the Whitehouse. - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/2c143f04a3ed8454?hl=en
* What's causing the economic meltdown - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c691dc358da67498?hl=en
* Warning about United Parcel Service UPS - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Your patriotic duty is to not invest in the stock market. - 1 messages, 1
author
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TOPIC: HP has stop marking ink volume on the cartridge box
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1af35b6839aa6803?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 8:35 pm
From: "Dave"
>The HP site provides page yields for the various carts used in
>different configurations. I was impressed with the 74XL's 710 -750
>standard pages. I'm a refiller myself and have never purchased a new
>ink cartridge. The page count is the most important number today
>rather than ink volume because printers can vary in efficiency. A big
>supply of ink goes quickly in a printer that dumps all the ink on
>needless cleaning cycles whereas a printer that does not clog as much
>and doesn't clean as much can make the ink go further.
Careful. You can't believe the advertised page counts. The numbers are
severely fudged. Think about it for a second...what is a "page"??? Is it
double-spaced text with only a few paragraphs, or is it a dozen wallet-sized
photographs? Obviously, the photographs are going to use a shitload more
ink for each page that you print. That's why you need to consider fill
rate, also. Without knowing the fill rate, the page count means NOTHING.
Fill rate is (to over-simplify it a bit) how much of the page is covered
with ink. But even if you know that, you have to take the manufacturer's
word on it. And the manufacturer has no incentive at all (ahem) to fudge
the numbers.
I see this HP (not marking ink volume on cartridge) issue a bit differently.
Several years ago, I spotted a trend where all major printer manufacturers
started shipping some models of printers with beginner ink cartridges. The
beginner ink cartridges looked identical to the ones you buy as name-brand
replacements. The difference is, the cartridges that ship with the printer
contain only 30-50% as much ink as the replacement cartridges that you
purchase when the ink runs out. This applies to toner as well, and affects
both inkjets and lasers. At the time, I thought it was a pretty scummy
thing to do. I mean, the manufacturer saves about 3 or 4 cents (maybe,
probably not even that much) in NOT filling the cartridge all the way, but
the manufacturer makes a buttload of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on the replacement cartr
idge when the initial ink runs out much faster.
Now, keeping in mind that printer manufacturers (not just HP, BTW) are
already inclined to rip off consumers by not filling ink cartridges all the
way...
We, as consumers, should be really PISSED that now they (HP, anyway) aren't
even promising a certain fill level by marking the volume of ink on the
cartridge.
This is worse than the ever-shrinking packages of grocery items, like the
"half gallon" of ice cream that is 1.5 quarts now, and shrinking...
Because now HP can put a few drops of ink into a cartridge that is still the
same physical size, and the consumer has no way of knowing that he's been
ripped off.
I mean, at least you can see the ice cream containers shrinking... -Dave
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TOPIC: a Victory Garden at the Whitehouse.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/2c143f04a3ed8454?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 7:58 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <georgewkspam-AA880D.15163421032009@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Devo <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote:
>Yes, Instead of mowing the WhiteHouse lawn they are growing food.
>Finally intelligent people in the W.H.
>Michelle says it's a wonderful way to educate children about where food
>(real food) comes from and another way to deal with epidemic of obesity.
>That's a Victory Garden.
>Yes, We Can. .. .. grow your own food.
>Let's duplicate that in everyone's yard.
[ ... ]
That would be the Republicans yards, as all the liberals have been
foreclosed upon, and apartments generally don't have yards.
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
"Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 9:29 pm
From: lisajoe@privacy.net
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:16:34 -0800, in misc.consumers.frugal-living Devo <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote:
>Yes, Instead of mowing the WhiteHouse lawn they are growing food.
>Finally intelligent people in the W.H.
>Michelle says it's a wonderful way to educate children about where food
>(real food) comes from and another way to deal with epidemic of obesity.
>That's a Victory Garden.
>Yes, We Can. .. .. grow your own food.
>Let's duplicate that in everyone's yard.
>Sell the lawnmower. they really do pollute an awfully lot. Noisy too.
>Don't go to seed !
I'm planting a hyperinflation garden since the Treasury has gone crazy with the printing press the The Fed (an
orginazation of private bankers) is buying it up as fast as the treasury can print it.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 9:30 pm
From: lisajoe@privacy.net
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:52:07 GMT, in misc.consumers.frugal-living "catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org> wrote:
>
>"Devo" <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote in message
>news:georgewkspam-AA880D.15163421032009@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
>> Yes, Instead of mowing the WhiteHouse lawn they are growing food.
>> Finally intelligent people in the W.H.
>> Michelle says it's a wonderful way to educate children about where food
>> (real food) comes from and another way to deal with epidemic of obesity.
>> That's a Victory Garden.
>> Yes, We Can. .. .. grow your own food.
>> Let's duplicate that in everyone's yard.
>> Sell the lawnmower. they really do pollute an awfully lot. Noisy too.
>> Don't go to seed !
>>
>
>It is a vegetable garden.
>
>Real food comes from fields of wheat, corn and soybeans and cattle, hogs,
>and chickens.
>
You forgot potatoes and parsnips.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 9:45 pm
From: "catalpa"
<lisajoe@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:3mfbs4pkeak5ldb1kosd7sg86i7d0ocqhp@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:52:07 GMT, in misc.consumers.frugal-living
> "catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Devo" <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote in message
>>news:georgewkspam-AA880D.15163421032009@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
>>> Yes, Instead of mowing the WhiteHouse lawn they are growing food.
>>> Finally intelligent people in the W.H.
>>> Michelle says it's a wonderful way to educate children about where food
>>> (real food) comes from and another way to deal with epidemic of obesity.
>>> That's a Victory Garden.
>>> Yes, We Can. .. .. grow your own food.
>>> Let's duplicate that in everyone's yard.
>>> Sell the lawnmower. they really do pollute an awfully lot. Noisy too.
>>> Don't go to seed !
>>>
>>
>>It is a vegetable garden.
>>
>>Real food comes from fields of wheat, corn and soybeans and cattle, hogs,
>>and chickens.
>>
>
> You forgot potatoes and parsnips.
I left out many crops. Please refer to
http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0312380/crop.htm for many more.
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TOPIC: What's causing the economic meltdown
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c691dc358da67498?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 8:09 pm
From: Governor Swill
About Companies in Malaysia <shawmichael56@gmail.com> wrote:
>Someone see this and advice me on what to do:
Try again.
Swill
--
"It's going to take more than three weeks to unfuck eight years of
George Bush's bungling." -- Christopher Helms
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 8:11 pm
From: Governor Swill
lorad wrote:
Oh, look, mommy! It's a conspirakook and he's stuck on stupid just
like the other ones.
Swill
>a) Neocon manipulation to 'securitize' (actually deregulate wealth
>concentrations);
>Reagan deregulated the Savings and Loan industry.
>
>b) Bush the first followed by starting the first Iraq War (as a
>political distraction and goverment war industry cash cow) and then
>ushered in the Savings and Loan crisis where Hundreds of Billions were
>looted.
>...
>c) Neocon puppet Clinton deregulated wall street, deregulated the
>housing mortgage industry, and enabled the WTO and NAFTA treaties.
>
>d) Bush the second started the second Iraq War (as a political
>distraction and goverment war industry cash cow) and then ushered in
>the Housing Mortgage and Derivatives crisis where Thousands of
>Billions were looted.
>
>..while the sheeple looked on and bleated in muted tones.
--
"It's going to take more than three weeks to unfuck eight years of
George Bush's bungling." -- Christopher Helms
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 8:17 pm
From: awthrawthr
On Mar 19, 9:00 pm, xuy...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Here are some possible clues:http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Recession.html
nutcase
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 9:32 pm
From: lisajoe@privacy.net
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:11:28 -0400, in misc.consumers.frugal-living Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
wrote:
>lorad wrote:
>
>Oh, look, mommy! It's a conspirakook and he's stuck on stupid just
>like the other ones.
>
>Swill
>
>>a) Neocon manipulation to 'securitize' (actually deregulate wealth
>>concentrations);
>>Reagan deregulated the Savings and Loan industry.
>>
>>b) Bush the first followed by starting the first Iraq War (as a
>>political distraction and goverment war industry cash cow) and then
>>ushered in the Savings and Loan crisis where Hundreds of Billions were
>>looted.
>>...
>>c) Neocon puppet Clinton deregulated wall street, deregulated the
>>housing mortgage industry, and enabled the WTO and NAFTA treaties.
>>
>>d) Bush the second started the second Iraq War (as a political
>>distraction and goverment war industry cash cow) and then ushered in
>>the Housing Mortgage and Derivatives crisis where Thousands of
>>Billions were looted.
>>
>>..while the sheeple looked on and bleated in muted tones.
It started with Carter but Clinton really sped it up by repealing glas-stegal.
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TOPIC: Warning about United Parcel Service UPS
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7c079162edf800e9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 9:26 pm
From: JJ8932
Agree totally. UPS SUCKS big time. Had them lose several packages.
NaderFan <NaderFan@MoralWorld.net> wrote in news:gq0osk$igl$1@tioat.net:
> Twice now I have had persishable products arrive via UPS that had
> obviously been left in the sun, hot to the touch.
>
> UPS drivers routinely ignore instructions to require signature and just
> drop stuff outside your residence.
>
> UPS drivers are rude,unprofessional and bad drivers, least the ones I
> have encountered.
>
> Following complaints to UPS I had harassing phone calls made to my
> residence by UPS employees.
>
> FedEx on the other hand has always been professional, never lost a
> package and is always on time.
>
> I have no profit motive or affiliation with either company, I am simply
> reporting my experiences.
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TOPIC: Your patriotic duty is to not invest in the stock market.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 10:41 pm
From: Mitchell Holman
Patriot Games <Patriot@America.Com> wrote in
news:thlas41igagbg670ulqstanqe02695qkvq@4ax.com:
>
> hahahahahahhahahahahaha!!!
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