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* Delivered unsafe item damaged me - 1 messages, 1 author
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* States may have to cut Medicaid coverage for those who most need it,article
link - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* Cutting down the cost of washing machine powder - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* Siding vs. painting the house - 8 messages, 3 authors
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* Save gas going to grocery store... - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* My ex=ISP tried to pull an AOL - 1 messages, 1 author
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* berufsunfähigkeit versicherung test, berufsunfähigkeitsversicherung rechner,
berufsunfähigkeitsversicherung steuerlich absetzbar, was kostet eine
berufsunfähigkeitsversicherung, berufsunfähigkeitsversicherung beamter, - 1
messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Delivered unsafe item damaged me
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3012e11d0875cc7d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 2:04 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:16:51 GMT, soup <1@invalid.com> wrote:
>DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>> How would you deal with this situation:
>>
>> A friend was moving a recliner. As they turned the chair around a
>> corner, it "reclined" trapping his hand within the mechanism and
>> severely cutting his hand. There was nothing in the paperwork for the
>> chair that said to "Secure the chair to prevent reclination while
>> moving".
>>
>> Whose responsible for his injury?
>
>Lets be really silly about it. A woman washes her poodle (stop
>sniggering at the back that is not a euphemism) and decides to dry the
>poodle in her microwave there was (at that time) no sticker that said
>"do not dry poodles in this microwave" the dog died . Who is
>responsible for the dogs death?
> Especially in America for some reason there are lots of what seem to
>be ridiculous warnings on consumer items. CYA in action?
There should be no razor edges on metal appliances.
It's stupid and negligent.
Don't know where this guy grabbed it, but most likely it was a natural
place to put your hands any way.
I've pulled the top off plenty of stoves to get at burner heads or to
clean, and never found sharp edges. Worked on many stamped metal
items and didn't get cut.
Any time I did it was because of junky, negligent manufacturing, and I
cussed them a blue streak.
It is not rocket science to grind off burrs and edges on fabricated
metal products, and it is the norm.
I've worked shears, stamping, pressing and there was always a guy
whose responsibility was to grind off rough, sharp edges.
Guess what he was called?
A GRINDER! Jesus H. Christ.
Whether there is any recourse for the guy cut I don't know.
I've just used some peroxide and a band-aid.
But if this guy can ram that stove top up the ass of the manufacturer,
that's fine with me.
--Vic
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TOPIC: States may have to cut Medicaid coverage for those who most need it,
article link
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3598f5c9856e8812?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 3:14 pm
From: Rick
mark stancil wrote:
> On Feb 22, 11:30 am, Rick<rick0.merr...@gmail.com.lessspam> wrote:
>> mark stancil wrote:
>>> On Feb 22, 7:14 am, seeker<mothman20052...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.truthout.org/without-more-federal-help-states-might-cut-me...
>>
>>> Hospital after hospital incurring massive debt treating illegal
>>> aliens. So,
>>> naturally, American citizens must suffer.
>>
>>> http://www.numbersusa.com/ Numbers USA
>>
>> I resent that! - wait, aren't they human too?
>
> Perhaps you should start a fund to pay for the medical treatments
> given to illegal aliens. Or, start an initiative to levy on American-
> held assets of their homelands. Seems fair.
>
> Hook
The ER doesn't ask for citizen status, so it costs us more to have them
go to the ER than if they had 'coverage.'
That might be fair - can we try it?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 6:20 pm
From: Sam Spade
Rick wrote:
> mark stancil wrote:
>
>> On Feb 22, 7:14 am, seeker<mothman20052...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.truthout.org/without-more-federal-help-states-might-cut-me...
>>
>>
>> Hospital after hospital incurring massive debt treating illegal
>> aliens. So,
>> naturally, American citizens must suffer.
>>
>> http://www.numbersusa.com/ Numbers USA
>
>
> I resent that! - wait, aren't they human too?
>
>
Of course they are. But, they don't belong in this country and, in case
you didn't notice, we are going broke.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 6:23 pm
From: Sam Spade
Rick wrote:
> mark stancil wrote:
>
>> On Feb 22, 11:30 am, Rick<rick0.merr...@gmail.com.lessspam> wrote:
>>
>>> mark stancil wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 7:14 am, seeker<mothman20052...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.truthout.org/without-more-federal-help-states-might-cut-me...
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hospital after hospital incurring massive debt treating illegal
>>>> aliens. So,
>>>> naturally, American citizens must suffer.
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://www.numbersusa.com/ Numbers USA
>>>
>>>
>>> I resent that! - wait, aren't they human too?
>>
>>
>> Perhaps you should start a fund to pay for the medical treatments
>> given to illegal aliens. Or, start an initiative to levy on American-
>> held assets of their homelands. Seems fair.
>>
>> Hook
>
>
>
> The ER doesn't ask for citizen status, so it costs us more to have them
> go to the ER than if they had 'coverage.'
>
> That might be fair - can we try it?
>
>
Perhaps, in the context we have first shot ourselves in the foot, and
now in the gut by not getting a handle on the 14th Amendment and illegal
aliens in general.
Because liberals bleed so over this the legitmate children of the US of
A are screwed over the not-too-distant future.
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TOPIC: Cutting down the cost of washing machine powder
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3b767149103b33f0?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 4:14 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<7ug3k7Fv2cU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> > In article
> > <7uevkqFbj6U1@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Yes, I notice the throngs rushing to support you with "wow, that's
> >>> exactly what happened to me"
> >>
> >> Presumably fuck all of them wear dark blue pure
> >> cotton T shirts and wash in cold water, fuckwit child.
yes, of course, because in the whole
world (or even this newsgroup), you are
the only person who has access to dark
blue pure cotton T shirts and washed
them in cold water old fella
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where
> it belongs>
why is that old fellas like you think
that censoring someone is a sign of
anything other than your lack of ability
to carry on an intelligent conversation?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 5:55 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> In article
> <7ug3k7Fv2cU1@mid.individual.net>,
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <7uevkqFbj6U1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Yes, I notice the throngs rushing to support you with "wow, that's
>>>>> exactly what happened to me"
>>>>
>>>> Presumably fuck all of them wear dark blue pure
>>>> cotton T shirts and wash in cold water, fuckwit child.
<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 10:55 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<7ugqrqFqcgU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> > In article
> > <7ug3k7Fv2cU1@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> >>> In article
> >>> <7uevkqFbj6U1@mid.individual.net>,
> >>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Yes, I notice the throngs rushing to support you with "wow, that's
> >>>>> exactly what happened to me"
> >>>>
> >>>> Presumably fuck all of them wear dark blue pure
> >>>> cotton T shirts and wash in cold water, fuckwit child.
yes, of course, because in the whole
world (or even this newsgroup), you are
the only person who has access to dark
blue pure cotton T shirts and washed
them in cold water old fella
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where
> it belongs>
why is that old fellas like you think
that censoring someone is a sign of
anything other than your lack of ability
to carry on an intelligent conversation?
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TOPIC: Siding vs. painting the house
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f101ad7af8a7691a?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 4:15 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<hlulnp$9sj$1@news.eternal-september.org
>,
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> > In article
> > <7uevokFc82U1@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>> Hell, even cultured stone or stone veneer would be better, cheaper,
> >>> etc than bricks.
> >>
> >> Pity about what it does to the value of the house, fuckwit child.
> >
> > Ah, I see. Because someone adds
> > something that is cheaper, easier to
> > install and much easier to maintain and
> > repair, that somehow in your mind lowers
> > (I assume you are implying a lowered
> > value) the value of the house.
> >
> > So in the name of letting you hang
> > yourself even further old fella, why not
> > post some anecdotal evidence that this
> > is true.
>
> Speed never contributes anything of use. Just block him like just about
> everyone else here does.
Why? he dances so well
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 4:17 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<7ug3miFvfcU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Over the long term, isn't siding a better investment?
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope, bricks are even better again.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Won't it eliminate the need to paint the house forever?
> >>>>
> >>>> Bricks in spades.
> >>>
> >>> So when a person asks "is A better than
> >>> B" you are too pignorant to answer their
> >>> question?
> >>
> >> I answered their question, fuckwit child.
As your answer didn't include anything
about siding or paint, no you didn't old
fella
>
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where
> it belongs>
I'm sorry old fella that you feel
compelled to surrender so easily, I was
just beginning to enjoy your discomfort
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 4:26 pm
From: "Bob F"
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> In article
> <hlulnp$9sj$1@news.eternal-september.org
>> ,
> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <7uevokFc82U1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hell, even cultured stone or stone veneer would be better,
>>>>> cheaper, etc than bricks.
>>>>
>>>> Pity about what it does to the value of the house, fuckwit child.
>>>
>>> Ah, I see. Because someone adds
>>> something that is cheaper, easier to
>>> install and much easier to maintain and
>>> repair, that somehow in your mind lowers
>>> (I assume you are implying a lowered
>>> value) the value of the house.
>>>
>>> So in the name of letting you hang
>>> yourself even further old fella, why not
>>> post some anecdotal evidence that this
>>> is true.
>>
>> Speed never contributes anything of use. Just block him like just
>> about everyone else here does.
>
> Why? he dances so well
Not really.
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 5:55 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> In article
> <hlulnp$9sj$1@news.eternal-september.org
>> ,
> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <7uevokFc82U1@mid.individual.net>,
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hell, even cultured stone or stone veneer would be better,
>>>>> cheaper, etc than bricks.
>>>>
>>>> Pity about what it does to the value of the house, fuckwit child.
<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 5:56 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> In article
> <7ug3miFvfcU1@mid.individual.net>,
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over the long term, isn't siding a better investment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, bricks are even better again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Won't it eliminate the need to paint the house forever?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bricks in spades.
>>>>>
>>>>> So when a person asks "is A better than
>>>>> B" you are too pignorant to answer their
>>>>> question?
>>>>
>>>> I answered their question, fuckwit child.
<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 10:56 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<7ugqudFqktU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> > In article
> > <7ug3miFvfcU1@mid.individual.net>,
> > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Over the long term, isn't siding a better investment?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nope, bricks are even better again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Won't it eliminate the need to paint the house forever?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bricks in spades.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So when a person asks "is A better than
> >>>>> B" you are too pignorant to answer their
> >>>>> question?
> >>>>
> >>>> I answered their question, fuckwit child.
As your answer didn't include anything
about siding or paint, no you didn't old
fella
>
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where
> it belongs>
I'm sorry old fella that you feel
compelled to surrender so easily, I was
just beginning to enjoy your discomfort
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 10:57 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<7ugqtfFqf0U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> > In article
> > <hlulnp$9sj$1@news.eternal-september.org
> >> ,
> > "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> >>> In article
> >>> <7uevokFc82U1@mid.individual.net>,
> >>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> Hell, even cultured stone or stone veneer would be better,
> >>>>> cheaper, etc than bricks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pity about what it does to the value of the house, fuckwit child.
Ah, I see. Because someone adds
something that is cheaper, easier to
install and much easier to maintain and
repair, that somehow in your mind lowers
(I assume you are implying a lowered
value) the value of the house.
So in the name of letting you hang
yourself even further old fella, why not
post some anecdotal evidence that this
is true.
>
> > Hell, even cultured stone or stone veneer would be better, cheaper, etc
> > than bricks.
>
> Pity about what it does to the value of the house, fuckwit child.
Ah, I see. Because someone adds
something that is cheaper, easier to
install and much easier to maintain and
repair, that somehow in your mind lowers
(I assume you are implying a lowered
value) the value of the house.
So in the name of letting you hang
yourself even further old fella, why not
post some anecdotal evidence that this
is true.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 10:58 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<hlv7b9$ngj$1@news.eternal-september.org
>,
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Hell, even cultured stone or stone veneer would be better,
> >>>>> cheaper, etc than bricks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pity about what it does to the value of the house, fuckwit child.
> >>>
> >>> Ah, I see. Because someone adds
> >>> something that is cheaper, easier to
> >>> install and much easier to maintain and
> >>> repair, that somehow in your mind lowers
> >>> (I assume you are implying a lowered
> >>> value) the value of the house.
> >>>
> >>> So in the name of letting you hang
> >>> yourself even further old fella, why not
> >>> post some anecdotal evidence that this
> >>> is true.
> >>
> >> Speed never contributes anything of use. Just block him like just
> >> about everyone else here does.
> >
> > Why? he dances so well
>
> Not really.
Okay, maybe I should have added "for
someone so mentally challenged"
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TOPIC: Save gas going to grocery store...
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 5:39 pm
From: "h"
"Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.1002131504240.28787@darkstar.example.net...
>>
> No, the way to do it is to track what you use, and buy when on sale.
Umm, how does that work? I/we only eat meat, dairy, fruit, and veg. So...how
exactly do we buy that only "on sale", with the exception of meat? We get
all our meats on regular/365 low prices from the local butcher shop for a
lot less than Walmart ($4.98/boneless ribeye @ butcher versus walmart
$8.98). Fresh stuff has to be purchased where and when you can find it. If
you are buying "readymade" stuff, then you pay what you pay. The rest of us
make our stuff from scratch.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 5:59 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
h wrote:
> "Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message
> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.1002131504240.28787@darkstar.example.net...
>>>
>> No, the way to do it is to track what you use, and buy when on sale.
> Umm, how does that work?
Very well indeed.
> I/we only eat meat, dairy, fruit, and veg.
So do most.
> So...how exactly do we buy that only "on sale", with the exception of meat?
Everyone has diary fruit and veg on sale.
> We get all our meats on regular/365 low prices from the local
> butcher shop for a lot less than Walmart ($4.98/boneless ribeye @
> butcher versus walmart $8.98).
Pity about what others have on sale.
> Fresh stuff has to be purchased where and when you can find it.
Yes, but you can still buy what is on sale.
> If you are buying "readymade" stuff, then you pay what you pay.
Nope, that is on sale too.
> The rest of us make our stuff from scratch.
You can buy the ingredients on sale too.
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TOPIC: My ex=ISP tried to pull an AOL
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e83594d5ebc746a4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 8:20 pm
From: VFW
Sonic.net out of Santa Rosa, CA tried to charge me for a service I
cancelled.
So, now I spend what they say I owe on telling others about their
"service"
Revenge full.
--
Money; What a Concept !
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TOPIC: Hello Everyone!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 22 2010 10:33 pm
From: MadMike
Just joined this group and thought I should introduce myself. I am
married to a wonderful lady, and have 4 boys ranging from age 28 to
10! I NEED to become the poster-child for frugal living!
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== 1 of 1 ==
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