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Tuesday, June 1, 2010

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TOPIC: parking issue
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 9:13 pm
From: "h"

"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
news:m_KdnWwJJP8c5pnRnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
> In article <lZYMn.129897$0M5.1414@newsfe07.iad>,
> Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
>> My wife commutes to her job downtown. [ ... ]
>
>> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
>>against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
>>light has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible,
>>darkest spots in the whole parking lot.
> [ ... ]
>
>> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
>>about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I want
>>her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
>>maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
>> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle
>>this AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?
>

Talk to the manager of the lot and explain, in no uncertain terms, that
WHEN, not if, your wife is attacked or injured in their lot because of the
poor lighting about which they have been informed, IN WRITING, you will sue.
And you will win. What I can't figure out is why she's let this go on for
months? I'd have had a new lightbulb up there in a week or I'd have called
code enforcement or taken my parking business elsewhere.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 5:02 am
From: Al

On Jun 1, 12:13 am, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "Gary Heston" <ghes...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
>
> news:m_KdnWwJJP8c5pnRnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
>
>
>
> > In article <lZYMn.129897$0M5.1...@newsfe07.iad>,
> > Ohioguy <n...@none.net> wrote:
> >> My wife commutes to her job downtown. [ ... ]
>
> >> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
> >>against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
> >>light has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible,
> >>darkest spots in the whole parking lot.
> > [ ... ]
>
> >> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
> >>about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I want
> >>her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
> >>maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
> >> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle
> >>this AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?
>
> Talk to the manager of the lot and explain, in no uncertain terms, that
> WHEN, not if, your wife is attacked or injured in their lot because of the
> poor lighting about which they have been informed, IN WRITING, you will sue.
> And you will win. What I can't figure out is why she's let this go on for
> months? I'd have had a new lightbulb up there in a week or I'd have called
> code enforcement or taken my parking business elsewhere.

You may be on to something there H. A parking lot in the city is
subject to zoning laws that may even include the proper lighting for
safety and security. OG should check in that direction.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 5:29 am
From: "Bill"

Offer to pay to have the light replaced or repaired if needed. If broken,
some commercial outdoor lights can cost several hundred dollars to
repair/replace (usually ballast). And it can cost several hundred dollars
for a new outdoor "commercial" fixture...

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"Ohioguy" wrote in message
> My wife commutes to her job downtown. Previously she rode the bus, but
> we moved out into the suburbs. There is only one place with a convenient
> parking lot nearby, which is a welding company. My wife picked that
> parking lot because it was close, and wouldn't require her to walk through
> several dimly lit parking lots to get to her car.
>
> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
> against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the light
> has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible, darkest spots
> in the whole parking lot.
>
> She has brought this up at least 6 or 7 times with the folks she pays
> for the monthly parking. At first the guy acted completely clueless. She
> kept telling him that the light on their building was burned out, and that
> she couldn't see well. He kept saying "you mean the street light?", &
> stuff like that. She had to keep explaining, "No, if it was a STREET
> light, I wouldn't be talking to you about it", etc., etc.
>
> So they didn't do anything about it, and now it has been 3 months. She
> went in the other day to pay, and since they kept forgetting to do
> anything about it, she wrote up a short reminder note with the details,
> and took it in with her when she paid. She again asked them to do
> something, and they said they forgot, but would get around to it.
>
> Ok, so then she says "Well, you keep forgetting, so here is something to
> help you remember." The guy actually had the gall to hand the note back
> to her, and once again said, "we'll get around to it".
>
> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
> about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I want
> her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
> maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle this
> AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?
>
>
> Thanks!

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 8:22 am
From: "Bob F"

Ohioguy wrote:
> My wife commutes to her job downtown. Previously she rode the bus,
> but we moved out into the suburbs. There is only one place with a
> convenient parking lot nearby, which is a welding company. My wife
> picked that parking lot because it was close, and wouldn't require her
> to walk through several dimly lit parking lots to get to her car.
>
> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
> against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
> light has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible,
> darkest spots in the whole parking lot.
>
> She has brought this up at least 6 or 7 times with the folks she
> pays for the monthly parking. At first the guy acted completely
> clueless. She kept telling him that the light on their building was
> burned out, and that she couldn't see well. He kept saying "you mean
> the street light?", & stuff like that. She had to keep explaining,
> "No, if it was a STREET light, I wouldn't be talking to you about
> it", etc., etc.
> So they didn't do anything about it, and now it has been 3 months.
> She went in the other day to pay, and since they kept forgetting to do
> anything about it, she wrote up a short reminder note with the
> details, and took it in with her when she paid. She again asked them
> to do something, and they said they forgot, but would get around to
> it.
> Ok, so then she says "Well, you keep forgetting, so here is
> something to help you remember." The guy actually had the gall to
> hand the note back to her, and once again said, "we'll get around to
> it".
> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
> about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I
> want her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do
> the basic maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle
> this AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?
>

Buy her a flashlight?

The business has made it pretty clear they don't consider it important.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: Buy Locally Bike Locally
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 6:27 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"

On May 31, 6:35 pm, russo...@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto)
wrote:
> In article <CLqdnUjntawNtmbWnZ2dnUVZ_redn...@giganews.com>,
>
> dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >Gee, I have heard of getting laid in the back seat, but not causing war.
> >Taking the subway, biking and walking to your destination (not to
> >mention working from home) are all better to avoid oil spills, climate
> >change and carnage on our roads.
>
> Google maps has the bicycle ride from home to my office at 3 hours 29
> minutes. No thank you. Walking is 4 hours and 54 minutes, and I'm
> pretty sure pedestrian travel on some of the roads it mentions is
> forbidden; actual time would be much greater. And there is no subway.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 8:13 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"

Some question the validity of my metaphors (someone called "Ed"), but
they are just the perfect metaphors to live by...

On Jun 1, 10:54 am, "§nühw¤£f" <snuhw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of
> Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>

> >A monkey
> > faces the hungry lion and tells him: "You can eat my banana!"
> > Ain't it funny?
>
> Not sure what that means.

It means many things, but it can be explained this way: Lions eat
monkeys, and monkeys eat banana... The monkey says, "Hey, Mr. Lion,
you can eat my banana!"

Banana can be "love" or this...

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/skatesnow67/3_013.jpg

Notice the monkey is using his mind to defeat the powerful but stupid
beast.

The banana is very sexual metaphor exploited by the monkey to
proclaim, "Make love not war!"

>
> > Leave all lame metaphors aside.
>
> Physician, heal thyself?

We all live by metaphors, but the Bible's snake and Adam & Eve taking
a bite really suck.

>
> > We are all dealing with the Law of
> > the Jungle here.
>
> Which is what exactly?

Again, it could be interpreted as "the big fish eats the little fish"
as proposed by the lion, or "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" as
proposed by the monkey.

It's all here...

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 8:18 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"

On Jun 1, 11:08 am, Robert James <robertjame...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Look for the bare necessities
> The simple bare necessities
> Forget about your worries and your strife
> I mean the bare necessities
> Old Mother Nature's recipes
> That brings the bare necessities of life

Yep, the simple life in the trees makes perfect sense, particularly if
lying in a hammock.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 2:21 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"

On Jun 1, 5:07 pm, xeno <69black...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 2:21 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
> and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Yep, they are afraid of the competition
>
> Peds shouldn't have to compete with cyclists. & none of us shouldn't
> be slaves to the oil companies.

Excellent point. They push the cyclists to the sidewalks, where they
become a problem to themselves (falling at curbs or hitting a sign
post) and others even more vulnerable like the elderly and kids. But
the predatory corporations are perfectly happy with that
"arrangement"... and so are the happy sheep. ;)

"SAY NO TO SHEEP!"

http://www.johnsmilitaryhistory.com/sheep.gif

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TOPIC: Freezer question, your experience.
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 9:20 am
From: "john hamilton"

We need to buy a freezer. The *chest* type is what we want with the lid on
the top.

'Which' magazine recommends the Miele GT263 and for a hundred pounds less
the Zanussi ZFC 321 which comes in at £260.

The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, after
the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not need
defrosting as often as normal.

Knowing that its just not easy to get an airtight seal, the suspicion is
that it might draw the air out but; it will creep back in again anyway.

Would anyone with experience of the Miele freezer know if its worth paying
the extra £100 for this 'de-frost' feature. In other words does it work as
a means of cutting out defrosting? Thanks for any advice.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 9:38 am
From: spamtrap1888

On Jun 1, 9:20 am, "john hamilton" <bluest...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> We need to buy a freezer. The *chest* type is what we want with the lid on
> the top.
>
> 'Which' magazine recommends the Miele GT263 and for a hundred pounds less
> the Zanussi ZFC 321 which comes in at £260.
>
> The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, after
> the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not need
> defrosting as often as normal.
>

Let's look at some general issues. Does this solution target a problem
that you will have?

Allowing moist air to enter the freezer will allow frost to build up,
increasing the need to defrost.

Will you be opening the lid of the freezer frequently?

Once open, will you have the freezer lid open for long periods of
time?

How humid is the room in which the freezer will be kept? Cellars tend
to be humid. Warm summer air can hold more moisture than cold winter
air. Opening the lid in a humid cellar in the summertime will increase
the need to defrost.

Modern fridge and freezer seals are quite air-tight. Do you have cold
air leaking from your current fridge? Probably not.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 9:50 am
From: Mark Thorson

john hamilton wrote:
>
> The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, after
> the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not need
> defrosting as often as normal.

You mean there's a partial vacuum inside?
Wouldn't that make plastic bags and
unopened milk cartons burst?

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 10:05 am
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)

In article <9579bcec-f310-4d69-bf3d-d97e284fd011@v29g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jun 1, 9:20=A0am, "john hamilton" <bluest...@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> We need to buy a freezer. The *chest* type is what we want with the lid o=
>n
>> the top.
>>
>> 'Which' magazine recommends the Miele GT263 and for a hundred pounds less
>> the Zanussi ZFC 321 which comes in at =A3260.
>>
>> The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, afte=
>r
>> the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not n=
>eed
>> defrosting as often as normal.
>>
>
>Let's look at some general issues. Does this solution target a problem
>that you will have?
>
>Allowing moist air to enter the freezer will allow frost to build up,
>increasing the need to defrost.
>
>Will you be opening the lid of the freezer frequently?
>
>Once open, will you have the freezer lid open for long periods of
>time?
>
>How humid is the room in which the freezer will be kept? Cellars tend
>to be humid. Warm summer air can hold more moisture than cold winter
>air. Opening the lid in a humid cellar in the summertime will increase
>the need to defrost.
>
>Modern fridge and freezer seals are quite air-tight. Do you have cold
>air leaking from your current fridge? Probably not.

We had little problem with one opened little.

A tip I learn from the lab. Get flat sheeting to put under the
lid, so air does not get whirled when you quickly open it up.
Just slide the separate sections out of the way for access. Given a 6 foot
freezer, you can make 2-4 sections. This can also be insulation
foam sheeting. 1/2 inch. You should get very little infiltration.

greg

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 10:54 am
From: "h"

"spamtrap1888" <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9579bcec-f310-4d69-bf3d-d97e284fd011@v29g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 1, 9:20 am, "john hamilton" <bluest...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> We need to buy a freezer. The *chest* type is what we want with the lid on
> the top.
>
> 'Which' magazine recommends the Miele GT263 and for a hundred pounds less
> the Zanussi ZFC 321 which comes in at £260.
>
> The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, after
> the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not
> need
> defrosting as often as normal.
>

How often is "normal"? I open my freezer once a day, and the last time I
defrosted was June of 2008. I just checked it for frost, and there's a small
bit of frost near the top of one corner. No other frost visible anywhere.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 11:02 am
From: Andy Champ

spamtrap1888 wrote:
>
> How humid is the room in which the freezer will be kept? Cellars tend
> to be humid. Warm summer air can hold more moisture than cold winter
> air. Opening the lid in a humid cellar in the summertime will increase
> the need to defrost.
>
Cold cellars tend to have a high humidity level, largely because they
are cold. For the freezer it's the absolute moisture level, not the RH,
that counts - to be exact the amount that will freeze out at minus
whateveritis you set it at.

Warm, humid cellar in summer? Never met the beast.

Andy

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 12:39 pm
From: spamtrap1888

On Jun 1, 11:02 am, Andy Champ <no....@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> spamtrap1888 wrote:
>
> > How humid is the room in which the freezer will be kept? Cellars tend
> > to be humid. Warm summer air can hold more moisture than cold winter
> > air. Opening the lid in a humid cellar in the summertime will increase
> > the need to defrost.
>
> Cold cellars tend to have a high humidity level, largely because they
> are cold. For the freezer it's the absolute moisture level, not the RH,
> that counts - to be exact the amount that will freeze out at minus
> whateveritis you set it at.

Yes, warmer air can hold more moisture than colder air. I believe I
already typed that.

>
> Warm, humid cellar in summer? Never met the beast.
>

Unless the cellar is deep underground, cellars still will be warmer in
summer and colder in winter. The more moisture in the room ambient,
the more moisture will enter the freezer when the lid id opened.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 10:10 am
From: aj

I am looking for a deal - 3 10+ planning to visit in the weekday in
Aug 10. Didn't find anything cheaper than "Florida Resident Magic Your
Way Tickets" as below

days Price Per Day

Ages 10+ Ages 3-9
Total Price*

1 Day Ticket $71.10 $61.20 $71.10
3 Day Ticket $44.67 $38.00 $134.00
4 Day Ticket $41.00 $34.75 $164.00
5 Day Ticket $40.20 $34.40 $201.00
6 Day Ticket $36.00 $30.67 $216.00
7 Day Ticket $31.29 $26.71 $219.00

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 10:48 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"

On Jun 1, 1:03 pm, Jelrak TB <jel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 1, 8:54 am, e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > funny, and here i thought it got hot in the middle east! and yes, you
> > can blame xtians for anything, as you usually do. why change now?

> Good point...also, do you see African men oogling their women dressed
> in such a fashion? No, because it is *normal*. Our women clearly
> *want* to be oogled and so must make it a rarity for fear of its very
> commonness reducing its effect... ;-p

If you think about both the topless and the veil make more sense than
our system:

TOPLESS: Cool, not so much buying of clothing.

VEIL: No expensive plastic surgery.

But Western women are fat because they can't "burn the calories" and
are insecure to show off.

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THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"GO TOPLESS FOR THE REVOLUTION!"

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

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