Wednesday, June 2, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 14 new messages in 4 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/43aee8b3326b0220?hl=en
* Freezer question, your experience. - 8 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6c40f512af1456d1?hl=en
* Western women are so repressed because they are insecure - 3 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/221235c3afb6b6c0?hl=en
* Cleaning and Recycling - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6af1f5ba763b0a72?hl=en

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TOPIC: These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/43aee8b3326b0220?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 2:21 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On Jun 1, 5:07 pm, xeno <69black...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 2:21 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
> and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Yep, they are afraid of the competition
>
> Peds shouldn't have to compete with cyclists. & none of us shouldn't
> be slaves to the oil companies.

Excellent point. They push the cyclists to the sidewalks, where they
become a problem to themselves (falling at curbs or hitting a sign
post) and others even more vulnerable like the elderly and kids. But
the predatory corporations are perfectly happy with that
"arrangement"... and so are the happy sheep. ;)

"SAY NO TO SHEEP!"

http://www.johnsmilitaryhistory.com/sheep.gif


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TOPIC: Freezer question, your experience.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6c40f512af1456d1?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 3:44 pm
From: spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)


In article <cc6642a1-7cca-4492-8e5d-b296b03c5139@n20g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote:

>Unless the cellar is deep underground, cellars still will be warmer in
>summer and colder in winter.

Surely you don't mean what you wrote.


== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 6:35 pm
From: Lou Decruss


On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:44:14 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>In article <cc6642a1-7cca-4492-8e5d-b296b03c5139@n20g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Unless the cellar is deep underground, cellars still will be warmer in
>>summer and colder in winter.
>
>Surely you don't mean what you wrote.

I was wondering about that myself. I also wonder why someone would
insist on a chest freezer.

Lou


== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 7:00 pm
From: spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)


In article <85db06h49ajpm60vchueomu3pnmkmi6ljc@4ax.com>, Lou Decruss <LouDecruss@biteme.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:44:14 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
>>In article
> <cc6642a1-7cca-4492-8e5d-b296b03c5139@n20g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Unless the cellar is deep underground, cellars still will be warmer in
>>>summer and colder in winter.
>>
>>Surely you don't mean what you wrote.
>
>I was wondering about that myself. I also wonder why someone would
>insist on a chest freezer.

I've always wondered that too -- or, more specifically, why anyone would even
consider a chest freezer. That large flat area is such a tempting place to set
all kinds of crap on top of...


== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 7:02 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Doug Miller wrote
> spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote

>> Unless the cellar is deep underground, cellars still
>> will be warmer in summer and colder in winter.

> Surely you don't mean what you wrote.

Nothing wrong with what he wrote, the temperature of the
cellar will indeed vary like that unless it is deep underground.


== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 7:13 pm
From: spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)


In article <86lse5Fch3U1@mid.individual.net>, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Doug Miller wrote
>> spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>> Unless the cellar is deep underground, cellars still
>>> will be warmer in summer and colder in winter.
>
>> Surely you don't mean what you wrote.
>
>Nothing wrong with what he wrote, the temperature of the
>cellar will indeed vary like that unless it is deep underground.

I guess it's a question of "compared to what?" -- I took him to mean that
cellars will be warmer in summer, and cooler in winter, than other parts of
the house.

If he meant that the cellar is warmer in summer than the cellar is in winter,
yes, that's obviously true.


== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 7:14 pm
From: The Real Bev


On 06/01/10 19:00, Doug Miller wrote:

> Lou Decruss<LouDecruss@biteme.com> wrote:
>>spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
>> spamtrap1888<spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Unless the cellar is deep underground, cellars still will be warmer in
>>>>summer and colder in winter.
>>>
>>>Surely you don't mean what you wrote.
>>
>>I was wondering about that myself. I also wonder why someone would
>>insist on a chest freezer.
>
> I've always wondered that too -- or, more specifically, why anyone would even
> consider a chest freezer.

The cold doesn't leak out when you open the door.

> That large flat area is such a tempting place to set
> all kinds of crap on top of...

And you think that's a bad thing? Invest in one of those nice sturdy chrome
rolling shelf units -- when you need something in the freezer just roll it
away. If that won't fit around the freezer, hang shelves or cabinets above it.

Horizontal space should NEVER be wasted.

--
Cheers, Bev
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"Americans are looking for more government in their life, not less."
-- Colin Powell, former Good Guy


== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 9:22 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Doug Miller wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Doug Miller wrote
>>> spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>Andy Champ <no....@nospam.invalid> wrote
>>>>> spamtrap1888 wrote:

>>>>>> How humid is the room in which the freezer will be kept?
>>>>>> Cellars tend to be humid. Warm summer air can hold more
>>>>>> moisture than cold winter air. Opening the lid in a humid
>>>>>> cellar in the summertime will increase the need to defrost.

>>>>> Cold cellars tend to have a high humidity level, largely because they
>>>>> are cold. For the freezer it's the absolute moisture level, not the RH,
>>>>> that counts - to be exact the amount that will freeze out at minus
>>>>> whateveritis you set it at.

>>>> Yes, warmer air can hold more moisture than colder air.
>>>> I believe I already typed that.

>>>>> Warm, humid cellar in summer? Never met the beast.

>>>> Unless the cellar is deep underground, cellars still
>>>> will be warmer in summer and colder in winter.

>>> Surely you don't mean what you wrote.

>> Nothing wrong with what he wrote, the temperature of the
>> cellar will indeed vary like that unless it is deep underground.

> I guess it's a question of "compared to what?"

Its obvious he meant compared with those other seasons.

> -- I took him to mean that cellars will be warmer in summer,
> and cooler in winter, than other parts of the house.

More fool you.

> If he meant that the cellar is warmer in summer than the cellar is in winter, yes, that's obviously true.

And thats clearly what he meant given the context that you deleted from the quoting and I have restored.


== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 11:01 pm
From: no-spam@sonic.net (Fake ID)


In article <4C053A72.ABA82B8@sonic.net>,
Mark Thorson <nospam@sonic.net> wrote:
>john hamilton wrote:
>>
>> The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, after
>> the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not need
>> defrosting as often as normal.
>
>You mean there's a partial vacuum inside?
>Wouldn't that make plastic bags and
>unopened milk cartons burst?

Wouldn't the unopened milk cartons burst anyway once the milk froze?

m

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TOPIC: Western women are so repressed because they are insecure
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 4:42 pm
From: Jym Dyer


=v= You're using the wrong word. The word you're looking for
is "revulsed," not "repressed."

=v= Also, it's not all Western women. Just the ones who've
met you.
<_Jym_>

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 6:38 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On Jun 1, 7:42 pm, Jym Dyer <j...@econet.org> wrote:
> =v= You're using the wrong word. The word you're looking for
> is "revulsed," not "repressed."
>
> =v= Also, it's not all Western women. Just the ones who've
> met you.
> <_Jym_>

Unless they go to a gym, they won't have a chance at natural exercise
such as walking or cycling. So they grow fat and stupid watching TV
and driving around in their cages.

I know because my girlfriend is growing fat even though we want to
break away from the cage!

But she ain't getting stupid because she's with me. ;)

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 6:41 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On Jun 1, 8:43 pm, xeno <69black...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 2:21 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
> and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > They push the cyclists to the sidewalks
>
> Yah, but some cyclists terrorize peds. Or they don't give a fuck.

I know. And many of them don't give a shit about the revolution
either, which is the only hope.

I say, "ISSUE TICKETS TO CYCLISTS ON SIDEWALK." They do it here but
only in the area where the beautiful people live.


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TOPIC: Cleaning and Recycling
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6af1f5ba763b0a72?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 5:12 pm
From: Samantha Hill


Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
> Has anyone here used those Mr. Clean Magic Erasers or other brands of
> no scratch cleaning pads? Basically they are pads of polypropylene and
> the mark-up in price must be outragous. Recently I found a piece of
> packing foam in a package for a mirror. I tried it out and it worked
> as well as the Magic Eraser in cleaning my fiberglass bathtub.

Personally, I don't understand what is so difficult about something like
using baking soda on a damp sponge.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 7:10 pm
From: The Real Bev


On 06/01/10 17:12, Samantha Hill wrote:

> Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
>> Has anyone here used those Mr. Clean Magic Erasers or other brands of
>> no scratch cleaning pads? Basically they are pads of polypropylene and
>> the mark-up in price must be outragous. Recently I found a piece of
>> packing foam in a package for a mirror. I tried it out and it worked
>> as well as the Magic Eraser in cleaning my fiberglass bathtub.
>
> Personally, I don't understand what is so difficult about something like
> using baking soda on a damp sponge.

...or a belt sander.

--
Cheers, Bev
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"Americans are looking for more government in their life, not less."
-- Colin Powell, former Good Guy


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