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TOPIC: SSN for Job Applications
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 2:07 pm
From: rvanson
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Aug 13, 1:44 am, rvanson <rvan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a company called Hireright that is a huge datbase for
>> informtaion on many individuals.
>>
>> Once you are on the database your info is almost impossible to have
>> removed or altered. Welcome to the Brave New World of the USSA.
>
>However, in this case it's free enterprise compiling the database, so
>your reference to the USSA (parallel to USSR, I assume) is
>somewhat off the mark.
Does it really matter?
Do you think the FBI, the CIA and the NSA dont have databases on US
citisens as well?
Those are all government agencies like the KGB was to the USSR.
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 2:09 pm
From: rvanson
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:46:57 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 08/12/10 22:44, rvanson wrote:
>
>> They are doing alot more then that.
>>
>> There is a company called Hireright that is a huge datbase for
>> informtaion on many individuals.
>>
>> Once you are on the database your info is almost impossible to have
>> removed or altered. Welcome to the Brave New World of the USSA.
>
>Perhaps the US could earn money by renting out the FBI database. Or
>maybe they already have...
Its the information age. If one wants something erased I suppose
finding the right people to do it would be possible but it would cost
some real change and prison time it cuaght.
Welcome to the Brave New World Order.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 2:19 pm
From: rvanson
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Aug 13, 1:41 am, rvanson <rvan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:19:23 -0500, Napoleon <ana...@666yes.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >More and more people are asking for your social security number when
>> >you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
>> >instead.
>>
>> >I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
>> >after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
>> >course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
>> >illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
>> >job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
>> >sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
>> >paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
>> >to just anyone for no reason.
>>
>> >Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
>> >for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
>>
>> No, its not coincedence at all.
>>
>> The USA has been forming into a neo-fascist police state since before
>> 9/11. I was asked to show the management my SS card to add on an
>> application to rent an apartment a while back.
>
>That does not make the USA a police state. That was a purely
>private transaction. You are free to rent from someone who does not
>need your social security card.
Those places are becoming fewer in number each day.
>> They also wanted my drivers license wanted to copy the documents on
>> the spot along with my personal check so they could have my bank
>> account number too. Needless to say I declined to give them that
>> information.
>
>Which proves that there is still quite a lot of freedom here.
What freedom? I didn't complete the transaction did I?
>> There is little privacy to be had in the US anymore, sadly enough.
>>
>> Its next to impossible to do anything without all manner of checks.
>> Some companies are taking hair samples to drug test before hiring. It
>> wont be long till they want DNA samples just like in the sci-fi movie,
>> "Gattica" and that was made before 9/11 and the Bush regime.
>
>Which also has nothing to do wiht the government. You can blame
>the private sector for all of this.
The private sector and the public sector are joined at the hip.
Private businesses must comply with ever increasing state and federal
laws or be fined, closed down, imprisoned.
Perhaps the word Fascism is more suiting to you then the word Police
State?
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 2:47 pm
From: tmclone
On Aug 11, 9:19 am, Napoleon <ana...@666yes.net> wrote:
> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
> instead.
>
> I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
> after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
> course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
> illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
> job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
> sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
> paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
> to just anyone for no reason.
>
> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 2:51 pm
From: tmclone
On Aug 11, 9:19 am, Napoleon <ana...@666yes.net> wrote:
>
> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
Well, duh. My DH is a computer-nerd contractor, and his
"pimp" (consulting agency) provides his SSN EVERY SIN GLE time his
resume is submitted to ANYONE If you refuse to supply that, you will
NEVER, EVER get hired ANYWHERE. Wake up and smell the new century,
dude. Seriously.
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 8:22 pm
From: Lady Veteran
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT), tmclone
<tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>On Aug 11, 9:19 am, Napoleon <ana...@666yes.net> wrote:
>> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
>> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
>> instead.
>>
>> I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
>> after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
>> course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
>> illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
>> job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
>> sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
>> paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
>> to just anyone for no reason.
>>
>> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
>> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
SSN are being used for background checks and to verify citizenship. I
don't think you were rejected by accident.
Thank all the idiots who fake ID and college degrees and US
citizenship.
LV
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== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 8:25 pm
From: Lady Veteran
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:51:30 -0700 (PDT), tmclone
<tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>On Aug 11, 9:19 am, Napoleon <ana...@666yes.net> wrote:
>>
>> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
>> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
>
>Well, duh. My DH is a computer-nerd contractor, and his
>"pimp" (consulting agency) provides his SSN EVERY SIN GLE time his
>resume is submitted to ANYONE If you refuse to supply that, you will
>NEVER, EVER get hired ANYWHERE. Wake up and smell the new century,
>dude. Seriously.
Watch the pimp stuff, lady. Most consulting agencies make very little
($20.00 and under) per hour of the people they place and that is a
GROSS margin. Out of that comes benefits, taxes, etc until the profit
margin is about $3.00 per consultant per hour.
Hardly a pimp's profit.
LV
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TOPIC: Why is Costco WHOLESALE sometimes more expensive then RETAIL stores?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 2:11 pm
From: rvanson
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:41:54 -0700, "Bill"
<billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"www.Queensbridge.us" wrote in message
>> Bought some mangoes in Jackson Height Queens.
>>
>> Same brand is more then DOUBLE the price if you buy them Costco
>> "wholesale"!
>>
>> How come?
>>
>> I noticed other things that the wholesale price at Costco is more
>> expensive then retail stores.
>
>Why? Because people can't add. Also because there is a sucker born every
>minute.
>
COSTCO and SAMS are not worth the 50 bucks and waiting in line for an
hour.
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TOPIC: Recipe
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 5:39 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 08/23/10 11:41, Derald wrote:
>
> The Real Bev<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>BLASPHEMY! It just hit me that the discussion involves putting
>>chocolate chips in oatmeal cookies. WRONGWRONGWRONG! You put raisins
>>and walnuts in oatmeal cookies, and you follow the recipe on the Quaker
>>package. NEVER chocolate chips.
>>
>>Chocolate chip cookies are completely different and should NOT be made
>>with oatmeal. I think I'd use semi-sweet chocolate AND toasted almonds
>>in CC cookies.
> Thank you for that. I thought I was the only one mystified.
> Although, I do have some questions about the almonds....
Chocolate is good, right? And it's better with toasted almonds...
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== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 6:07 pm
From: MAS
On 8/23/2010 1:31 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> BLASPHEMY! It just hit me that the discussion involves putting chocolate
> chips in oatmeal cookies. WRONGWRONGWRONG! You put raisins and walnuts
> in oatmeal cookies, and you follow the recipe on the Quaker package.
> NEVER chocolate chips.
>
> Chocolate chip cookies are completely different and should NOT be made
> with oatmeal. I think I'd use semi-sweet chocolate AND toasted almonds
> in CC cookies.
>
What better way to get the best of both cookies? DH doesn't like
walnuts and I don't like raisins, so we looked for a recipe with
chocolate chips. There are tons of them out there. Yummy!
Marsha
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 6:07 pm
From: Michael Black
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 08/23/10 05:16, Lou wrote:
>
>> "MAS"<mas@bbbb.net> wrote in message news:i4sfjh$q08$1@news.datemas.de...
>>> I don't bake much. As a matter of fact, the kitchen is foreign territory.
>>> When an oatmeal cookie recipe calls for 2 cups of oatmeal, does it mean
>>> quick cooking oats or regular oats? If it calls for chocolate chips, do I
>>> use unsweetened or sweetened? Muchos gracias.
>>
>> The oatmeal probably doesn't make much difference. The chips, I'd use
>> semi-sweet. But if you can't tell from the recipe, I'd use another recipe.
>
> BLASPHEMY! It just hit me that the discussion involves putting chocolate
> chips in oatmeal cookies. WRONGWRONGWRONG! You put raisins and walnuts in
> oatmeal cookies, and you follow the recipe on the Quaker package. NEVER
> chocolate chips.
>
Well they aren't making chocolate chip cookies, they are making oatmeal
cookies, and making them more palatable by adding chocolate chips.
You're right about the recipe on the oats. Once you find a pack with
the recipe, you can be sure the oats in the container are suitable for
making oatmeal cookies, and who would know better about making such
cookies than a company that makes oatmeal?
Michael
> Chocolate chip cookies are completely different and should NOT be made with
> oatmeal. I think I'd use semi-sweet chocolate AND toasted almonds in CC
> cookies.
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev
> =========================================
> "Welcome to Hell, here's your accordion."
>
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 7:59 pm
From: Derald
MAS <mas@bbbb.net> wrote:
>DH doesn't like
>walnuts and I don't like raisins, so we looked for a recipe with
>chocolate chips.
I'm with him. Don't like raisins as ingredients in _anything_, even
picadillo. When they skoosh, I just can't shake the mental image of
flies and such....
--
Derald
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 7:59 pm
From: Derald
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>Chocolate is good, right? And it's better with toasted almonds...
...sheesh! Californicating heatherns; harrumph, he said.
--
Derald
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 8:59 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 08/23/10 18:07, MAS wrote:
> On 8/23/2010 1:31 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> BLASPHEMY! It just hit me that the discussion involves putting chocolate
>> chips in oatmeal cookies. WRONGWRONGWRONG! You put raisins and walnuts
>> in oatmeal cookies, and you follow the recipe on the Quaker package.
>> NEVER chocolate chips.
>>
>> Chocolate chip cookies are completely different and should NOT be made
>> with oatmeal. I think I'd use semi-sweet chocolate AND toasted almonds
>> in CC cookies.
>
> What better way to get the best of both cookies? DH doesn't like
> walnuts and I don't like raisins, so we looked for a recipe with
> chocolate chips. There are tons of them out there. Yummy!
This may be a religious issue, in which case there is no REAL solution.
Perhaps you can make one big batch of cookie dough, divide it into
parts, and add raisins to one, chocolate chips to another, etc. Then
there would be no "YOU ATE THE LAST COOKIE!" issues.
I think the recipe on the package of Toll House morsels (or whatever the
hell they call them) is that gold standard for CCC.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 6:46 pm
From: "The Henchman"
"Bill Gill" <billnews2@cox.net> wrote in message
news:i4ts7d$amf$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 8/23/2010 12:56 AM, Derald wrote:
> Do you know how one determines _when_
>> to replace a detector's sensor or the detector? IIRC the instructions
>> with mine indicate the sensor to have a finite but indeterminate life
>> span regardless of whether the unit is in service but I don't recall it
>> offering the slightest clue how to determine when to begin expecting the
>> unit to fail or how to determine whether it has. Maybe I should read the
>> instructions again?
>>>
>
> I did some research* a while back on how long a CO detector lasts.
> I finally found a place that said they last about 5 years, so we
> need to replace all our CO monitors about every 5 years. I found
> this just after I bought a combined CO/Smoke detector. That means
> that in 5 years I get to throw away a probably perfectly good
> smoke detector because the CO detector is at end of life. Keep
> that in mind when you go shopping for CO monitors.
Most CO detectors TELL you the date to throw them away. They'll be printed
on a card or as part of the injection moulding or simply print the
information in the manual.
Some American organisation called the NFPA recommends to replace C0
detectors every 7 years to take advantage of new technologies, not because
they "wear out". My country says 10 years therefore Kidde the manufacturer
of my detector moulded the replacement date 10 years after the manufacture
date on the backing of my detectors.
Most CO detectors will not sound an alarm unless there is over 75 ppm.
Anything over 2 ppm is considered unhealthy and anything over 25 is
considered damaging to your health if exposed for 8 straight hours. If you
have respiratory issues or are placing this co detector in a bedroom
consider a unit that will sound an alarm at anything over 2 ppm.
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